Koncz admits Manny refused full random testing

And? What Manny agreed to has only been done once in the 100 + year history of boxing. It's not like he's agreeing to something that is normal for a boxing match. If only Pacquiao had just agreed from the onset instead of creating a plethora of reason he wouldn't.

And? What Manny agreed to has only been done once in the 100 + year history of boxing. It's not like he's agreeing to something that is normal for a boxing match. shane mosley just did it and arthur abraham and kessler do it all the time

After all the talk from Pacquiao fans saying that Manny agreed to all Floyd's demands the truth comes out of the Pacquiao camp that he did not. Floyd asked for testing without cut-off dates. Manny still requested a cut-off date. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs45YiWoRWw And? What Manny agreed to has only been done once in the 100 + year history of boxing. It's not like he's agreeing to something that is normal for a boxing match.

Exactly, there were indeed negotiations but Floyd didnt want the fight because he wanted to take a "vacation". Who from Mayweather's camp has come forward to talk about anything relating to negotiations? The only individuals that have spoke about negotiations came from Pacquiao's side, those are the facts. Find me evidence anywhere that has any sources inside Mayweather's camp where they're making pitches in negotiations. There is none, trust me, I've searched high and low. Ross Greenberg isn't part of Mayweather's camp, nor is Schaeffer, DLH, and apparently Haymon since Mayweather's been spotted with King as of late. Just because Arum, Pacquiao, Roach, etc... make the effort to reach Mayweather through those guys, Mayweather (and I mean all of them) certainly didn't entertain the idea from the start. It was full random testing or go your way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKCbrmYJvRc

You're absolutely right in regards to Haymon taking care of Mayweather's contracts over his last couple of fights, that doesn't mean that Mayweather was aware of discussions. Why do think fighters have been shafted in the past by managers? I'm not saying this is the case, Haymon, Greenberg, Schaeffer, DLH, Arum, Koncz, Ariza, Roach, Pacquiao, all of them could've dressed up and had a tea party on numerous occasions, Mayweather and his team never entertained the idea. Haymon could relay the message from the party, "hey Floyd, they want a seven day cut off date", and Mayweather's camp could have heard the message and simply ignored it. Why? Because that was not the deal. Mayweather issued a challenge to Pacquiao after he beat Mosley to go through the same testing they subjected themselves to. If they say anything other than "You got a deal, no cutoff date", then there's no negotiation. Exactly, there were indeed negotiations but Floyd didnt want the fight because he wanted to take a "vacation".

You need to understand that this May/Pac thing is something more than just a huge fight. Floyd Sr thinks that Floyd Jr escaped jail time because the judge in charged of Floyd Jr's felony cases was aware of this mega fight between Manny and Floyd. Cheap bail of $3000 even surprised Floyd Sr. If the judge learns that this mega fight will actually never happens, Floyd will be in trouble. That's what Floyd Sr thinks. man listen read what you are typing seriously

lmao you make it seem like pac is boxing meaning he is the whole sport You need to understand that this May/Pac thing is something more than just a huge fight. Floyd Sr thinks that Floyd Jr escaped jail time because the judge in charged of Floyd Jr's felony cases was aware of this mega fight between Manny and Floyd. Cheap bail of $3000 even surprised Floyd Sr. If the judge learns that this mega fight will actually never happens, Floyd will be in trouble. That's what Floyd Sr thinks.

I Just get the feeling that neither man wanted this fight in November....So far everybody has been a liar involved in this process...I like Floyd more so I have a Mayweather bias...and that's the same for supporters of Manny Pac.....The one thing we all know is that the fight was going to be huge for the sport this year and we were robbed of it and everybody is to blame....There are no good guys in this one....everybody here is a crook and the boxing public is the suffering victim.....The worst thing that can happen is that Manny and Freddy take Tony lightly and he knocks the Pacman head off

Nah. Pac retires after this fight. Floyd Sr is worried. He thinks this Pac thing kept his son from going to jail. So Floyd will be on his own after Pac announces retirement. Floyd has to beg for the fight if he wants it. lmao you make it seem like pac is boxing meaning he is the whole sport

What that black eyed koncz is more credible then the Mayweathers? I would give his words slightly more weight but would rather have someone else confirm it like Manny Pacquiao himself who said he agreed to everything. he is he lawyers before any contract get sign your lawyer goes thru it

So here we are agaim right back where we were in March, except floyd has a serious legal issue this time. Manny refuses to take random tests and floyd refuses to offer another compromise because his last compromise offer was rejected. So after manny beats Marg we will have Manny?cotto 2 and floyd/winner of martinez v williams. Yay! Nah. Pac retires after this fight. Floyd Sr is worried. He thinks this Pac thing kept his son from going to jail. So Floyd will be on his own after Pac announces retirement. Floyd has to beg for the fight if he wants it.

So here we are agaim right back where we were in March, except floyd has a serious legal issue this time. Manny refuses to take random tests and floyd refuses to offer another compromise because his last compromise offer was rejected. So after manny beats Marg we will have Manny?cotto 2 and floyd/winner of martinez v williams. Yay! No. Pacquiao-Mosley, it's the trend.

Al Haymon is the man in Mayweather that has the most say in regards to Floyd's career even Flomos would admit that. He negotiates contract in behalf of Floyd and is also very close with HBO's Kerry Davis which means he yields so much influence on HBO... I mean common sense would dictate that the first person that Greenburg would approach would be Haymon, right. I mean Greenburg is not that dumb to approach somebody like Ellerbe first, right? So if a guy like Greenburg says there was negotiation that took place, then you know that he went to the right people which will definitely include Al Haymon.. You mention Don King, and yet until now he is still with Haymon even after all the wining and dining, Why is that?? You're absolutely right in regards to Haymon taking care of Mayweather's contracts over his last couple of fights, that doesn't mean that Mayweather was aware of discussions. Why do think fighters have been shafted in the past by managers? I'm not saying this is the case, Haymon, Greenberg, Schaeffer, DLH, Arum, Koncz, Ariza, Roach, Pacquiao, all of them could've dressed up and had a tea party on numerous occasions, Mayweather and his team never entertained the idea. Haymon could relay the message from the party, "hey Floyd, they want a seven day cut off date", and Mayweather's camp could have heard the message and simply ignored it. Why? Because that was not the deal. Mayweather issued a challenge to Pacquiao after he beat Mosley to go through the same testing they subjected themselves to. If they say anything other than "You got a deal, no cutoff date", then there's no negotiation.

He finally agreed! Whooooooooo!!!!!!!!! What that black eyed koncz is more credible then the Mayweathers? I would give his words slightly more weight but would rather have someone else confirm it like Manny Pacquiao himself who said he agreed to everything.

Figures, If you guys can believe Roger and Sr. why not a guy that prepares Pacquiao's food and cuts his steaks for a living. He finally agreed! Whooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

Manny agreed to full testing! What do you flomos have to say now, huh? :lol1: Figures, If you guys can believe Roger and Sr. why not a guy that prepares Pacquiao's food and cuts his steaks for a living.

Says the man who fell for that post hook line and sinker. Manny agreed to full testing! What do you flomos have to say now, huh? :lol1:

Well said. Says the man who fell for that post hook line and sinker.

1) An obvious misunderstanding from Oscar who was hoping to get paid off the fight and was doing his job promoting it in hopes it would materialize. 2) The "gag" was issued by Bob Arum and Floyd fans were questioning Arum himself for breaking his own rule. 3) if Ross believed that sending team Mayweather a list of terms that team Pacquiao would agree to (as they admitted they did) was "negotiating" then he was wrong. To send somebody a list of things you will do is not negotiating. 4) They wanted a 7 day cut-off. Thus... all the talk from Pacquiao fans about Manny agreeing to all Mayweather's demands have been proven false. I am sure, Greenburg, the head of a major cable channel knows more about what a negotiation is then someone that probably makes minimum wage flipping burgers posting on this mb.

So here we are agaim right back where we were in March, except floyd has a serious legal issue this time. Manny refuses to take random tests and floyd refuses to offer another compromise because his last compromise offer was rejected. So after manny beats Marg we will have Manny?cotto 2 and floyd/winner of martinez v williams. Yay!