:boxing:yea i went there.
im just gonna let u guys duke it out over this. im not gonna call it either way.
im not an expert.
so what happens and why???....
Ridiculous thread, how did it get so much attention, Pac has 3 fights at Welter and now he can take down one of the most skilled and hardest hitting Welters of all time ?.
Now people are comparing Pac to SRL ?.
Gimme a break.
U are old enough to have been watching Hearns in the early 80's, yet talk like ur a 14 yr old Pactard.
Congrats.
^^^^
this. I'll repeat again....Hearns would take his head clean off. It would fall in Arum's lap in the front row. That is all.
When Hearns fought Leonard, Hearns got problem on how to deal with the SPEED of Leonard!
If Hearns will fight Pacman, it would be the same problem Hearns
has to solve - the SPEED+Power of Pacman.
SRL had more than just speed. He had a one of a kind style that was very tough to beat. Think Roy Jones, Floyd Jr, etc. Some fighters can rly on their freaking natural abilities, and in SRL's case, he had freakish ability and he was an incredible boxer on top of that, far better than Pacquiao.
Leonard would take Manny out rather quickly, whereas Hearns and Leonard fought a battle and Hearns was so exhausted by the 14th round he couldn't continue. When has Manny ever gone 14 for you to even compare him?
And in case you didn't know this, Hearns was faster than Manny and the power isn't even debatable.
When Hearns fought Leonard, Hearns got problem on how to deal with the SPEED of Leonard!
If Hearns will fight Pacman, it would be the same problem Hearns
has to solve - the SPEED+Power of Pacman.
dude...am i really reading the nonsense i see in this thread??? u dudes are like kids with action figures who think ur action figure beats all the other kids action figures. pac isnt an action figure, he isnt superman. u cant make up imaginary feats that pac can accomplish.
if pac and hearns fought 100 times, im sure hearns wins at least 90 of those fights. if u dont think so, then u have never seen hearns fight. and the joke is on u. the comments in this thread are embarrassing.
No matter how u explain it, It's still the fact that Hearns is a Chinny guy. And also Pac is a Greater Fighter than Hearns. It's also a Fact that I'm a greater analyst than you.
Look Hearns got Koed by Barkley, The same Barkley who the smaller & Older Duran beat. I know Hearns KOed Duran. But his chin will not hold up to Pac.
Pac chin at 130-147 was Proven Granite. He took a Flush one from Cotto and Pac just told him, "Let's get it on". What will happen when Hearns land a Flush Right to Pac and Pac just Bang his Gloves and Pac say," cmon.. That's all u got?"
What if Pac connects that Hatton's Retirement punch into Hearns chin? You think Hearns chin will hold up?
:wtf:
The thing about this is... That won't happen. Pacquiao takes a flush right from Hearns he goes down. Despite wut u may think, Cotto's left hook might as well be Foreman's jab (Yuri, not George) when comparing him to Hearn's straight right.
So to be clear you believe that the Hatton, DLH, Clottey and Cotto were all live opponents at the top of their game when they fought Pacquiao?
If so then this debate is closed as your opinion has no merit.
I'm not a hater but to have a thread with people saying Pac KO's Hearn's is ludicrous. I like pacquiao, but this thread is ridiculous.
The thread is ridiculous and your claims are equally so. Hatton, Cotto and Clottey may not have been at the top of their games but they were certainly live opponents and if you seriously don't think they were then your opinion has no merit, and is certainly not shared by any boxing experts. All three of them were still highly ranked by all boxing experts at that time. In their respective divisions, Hatton was ranked #1, Cotto was ranked #2 and Clottey was ranked #4. And De La Hoya was favoured to win by most boxing experts even after the weigh-in - see here if you don't believe me.
They are clownish too. Nuthuggers like them and haters like you are cut from the same cloth as each other. Claiming he has fought only nobodies from 140 up is just stupid.
So to be clear you believe that the Hatton, DLH, Clottey and Cotto were all live opponents at the top of their game when they fought Pacquiao?
If so then this debate is closed as your opinion has no merit.
I'm not a hater but to have a thread with people saying Pac KO's Hearn's is ludicrous. I like pacquiao, but this thread is ridiculous.
We have idiots saying that Hearns is going to get KO'd by Pacquiao and my posts in this thread are clownish? Which claims exactly are clownish?
They are clownish too. Nuthuggers like them and haters like you are cut from the same cloth as each other. Claiming he has fought only nobodies from 140 up is just stupid. And claiming Clottey landed at will is a gross exaggeration.
Your posts in this thread have been pretty clownish. Compubox isn't perfect but it isn't a joke either. He missed plenty.
We have idiots saying that Hearns is going to get KO'd by Pacquiao and my posts in this thread are clownish? Which claims exactly are clownish?
lol, compubox. Don't be a clown man, Compubox is a joke.
He landed uppercuts at will.
Your posts in this thread have been pretty clownish. Compubox isn't perfect but it isn't a joke either. He missed plenty.
Compubox stats:
"Pacquiao threw 1,231 punches to Clottey’s 399. The jab was a non-entity for both as Pacquiao landed just 14 of 549 (3 percent) to Clottey’s 26 of 162 (16 percent) while the power punches proved to be everything as Pacquiao went 232 of 682 (34 percent) to Clottey’s 82 of 237 (35 percent)."
Clottey only landed 16% of his jabs and only landed 35% of his power punches. So you're talking rubbish.
lol, compubox. Don't be a clown man, Compubox is a joke.
He landed uppercuts at will.
And don't ignore how many shots Clottey got in on Manny. For the few punches he threw, he sure did land quite a bit - he hit him at will, almost everytime he threw a punch it landed.
Compubox stats:
"Pacquiao threw 1,231 punches to Clottey’s 399. The jab was a non-entity for both as Pacquiao landed just 14 of 549 (3 percent) to Clottey’s 26 of 162 (16 percent) while the power punches proved to be everything as Pacquiao went 232 of 682 (34 percent) to Clottey’s 82 of 237 (35 percent)."
Clottey only landed 16% of his jabs and only landed 35% of his power punches. So you're talking rubbish.
the fuck? :lol1:
he had one fight at 140 and he destroyed the lineal champ in less than 2 rounds.
he defeated cotto who could possibly be the best ww at that time... then never lost a round to the guy that arguably beat cotto.
and manny loses to shane mosley? :rofl:
come on son. i disagree with pacdbest but you obviously don't know what your'e talking about.
That's my entire point, kid. I wasn't speaking literally, like "he didn't have a fight at 140." I'm saying he fought a nobody. He had ONE fight against a nobody at 140, and no other top contenders. Ricky was washed up and at the end of his career, and you want to talk like that's some kind of great win and is a testament to Manny's greatness?
Cotto was the best ww at the time? Really? I guess I don't know what I'm talking about because I believe Shane Mosley is better, Paul Williams is far better, of course Floyd, and even Andre Berto.
We all know how Arum does business, so just the fact that Manny was put up against Cotto TELLS us that Cotto was not the best fight at 147 - because if he were, Arum would not have given him that fight.
You can't spin it as if Manny has actually fought top contenders at any weight about 135 - he has not. Cotto was a decent win, but to be honest, I never gave Cotto much of a chance in that fight.
Wow, you Pinoy's talk about Manny the same way a lot of people talk about Jesus.
Get your head checked man - he's a good fighter that fights guys who don't even belong in the ring with him and you talk about him like he's some kind of god.
He will never take fights with those guys. He didn't fight anybody at 140, and he has fought NOBODY at 147. Now you're talking about him going to 160? Come on. Hopkins would destroy him and he's an old man.
Manny loses to most real competitors at 147: Paul Williams, Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather.
the fuck? :lol1:
he had one fight at 140 and he destroyed the lineal champ in less than 2 rounds.
he defeated cotto who could possibly be the best ww at that time... then never lost a round to the guy that arguably beat cotto.
and manny loses to shane mosley? :rofl:
come on son. i disagree with pacdbest but you obviously don't know what your'e talking about.
You weren't even Born yet when I was watching Hearn's got TKOed by SRL. There's a reason Why I Predicted what Pac can do, I have seen these ATGs in the 70s & 80s and that's How I saw Pac in the 1st time I saw him beating up Barrera.
And that is all also the reason why I claimed 3-4 years ago that Pac can beat Hatton, DLH, Cotto & PBF. Because I saw Pac as better than SRL & Hearns. So you can imagine anything but u cant change a thing. Hearns, srl, Duran were done!! Pac's not done yet! You will see more. After Pac's done with his carreer, I will bump this thread and I will Say. I TOLD YOU SO!!.
U are old enough to have been watching Hearns in the early 80's, yet talk like ur a 14 yr old Pactard.
Congrats.
I'm not just a Pinoy!! They call me the Nostradamus of Boxing!!
Here I google it, Just Pick a topic.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4TSNA_enUS387US387&q=pacdbest+predictions
Pactards may call you that, but to every boxing fan who isn't a moron you are known as the village idiot.
Wow, you Pinoy's talk about Manny the same way a lot of people talk about Jesus.
Get your head checked man - he's a good fighter that fights guys who don't even belong in the ring with him and you talk about him like he's some kind of god.
He will never take fights with those guys. He didn't fight anybody at 140, and he has fought NOBODY at 147. Now you're talking about him going to 160? Come on. Hopkins would destroy him and he's an old man.
Manny loses to most real competitors at 147: Paul Williams, Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather.
I'm not just a Pinoy!! They call me the Nostradamus of Boxing!!
Here I google it, Just Pick a topic.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4TSNA_enUS387US387&q=pacdbest+predictions
Pac chin at 130-147 was Proven Granite. He took a Flush one from Cotto and Pac just told him, "Let's get it on". What will happen when Hearns land a Flush Right to Pac and Pac just Bang his Gloves and Pac say," cmon.. That's all u got?"
Then he'd fall to the ground like this.
Hearns would spank Pacquiao, he doesn't even have to worry about easing up on the offensive as Pacquiao isn't getting passed his straight punches.
Once Pac KO Cheato, KO Floyd and then go for the Middleweight crown with Pwill/Martinez, All your doubts will be gone!! Then youwill say to yourself, "I was wrong, I underestimate Pac. But I'm lucky I witnessed the Greatest P4P fighter beating my Heroes & wrecking havoc in all the Great fighters in my lifetime."
Wow, you Pinoy's talk about Manny the same way a lot of people talk about Jesus.
Get your head checked man - he's a good fighter that fights guys who don't even belong in the ring with him and you talk about him like he's some kind of god.
He will never take fights with those guys. He didn't fight anybody at 140, and he has fought NOBODY at 147. Now you're talking about him going to 160? Come on. Hopkins would destroy him and he's an old man.
Manny loses to most real competitors at 147: Paul Williams, Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather.