Haye has fought the better opposition in the last year than either Klitschko brother has.
PAST OPPONENTS
Let's take a look at Haye's last two opponents:
Nikolay Valuev - 50-1 and two-time world champion
John Ruiz - Two-time world champion
Now Wladimir's last two:
Eddie Chambers - Contender
Samuel Peter - One-time world champion
And finally Vitali's:
Albert Sosnowski - Unranked journeyman who lost to 23-14-4 Zuri Lawrence
Shannon Briggs - Unranked and was over 10 years past his prime
FUTURE OPPONENTS
Haye:
Audley Harrison - One of the best British heavyweights of the last decade
Wladimir:
Dereck Chisora - Inexperienced fighter with only 14 fights
So how can you bash Haye's choice of opponents when the Klitschko's are fighting worse opposition???
Ohhh, well looky-here! The American poser says Olympic medals mean nothing! :lol1:
Prizefighter is the top tournament for British heavyweights and Harrison has won it. Chisora hasn't. And yes, I have seen Harrison fight. Maybe even more than you have.
What does HBO have to do with it? Tyson wasn't fighting on HBO throughout most of the 90s, yet he was the most popular fighter of that decade..
No I said they mean nothing in the pros. He didnt win a gold medal in his sorry excuse for a professional career.
Prizefighter is shiit. Stop it, you are embarrassing yourself trying to make it sound like more than it is. Chisora hasnt won it because he isnt a hasbeen whos trying to recapture former glory you mong. Thats the only people that are FORCED to enter Prizefighter. Them and complete bums like the 3 people Audley beat to win the thing.
Are you fukkin dense? The Klitschkos have been on US tv, they are known to a US audience. David Haye has not. How do you not get this?
I have nothing to learn, because there's nothing that I understand.
I agree :lol1:
Olympic medals arent won in the pros so dead that shiit. The Prizefighter tournament is a bunch of bums or hasbeens swinging at each other for 3 rounds. Harrison even struggled in that before his power bailed him out....just like against Sprott. Chisora would beat him. Martin Rogan....a taxi driver....beat Audley. Have you seen Audley fight or are you just gonna yell "he won a gold medal" all night?
I said the Klitschko's are more well known in America. Not because i think i know what YANKS think. But because its a simple fact. The Klitschko's have been on HBO several times, whereas Haye has never. Adamek is more well known in the US than Haye. Its not my opinion, its the way it is. You have a lot to learn.
You are arguing with a wall, he won't get it, let it go.
Olympic medals arent won in the pros so dead that shiit. The Prizefighter tournament is a bunch of bums or hasbeens swinging at each other for 3 rounds. Harrison even struggled in that before his power bailed him out....just like against Sprott. Chisora would beat him. Martin Rogan....a taxi driver....beat Audley. Have you seen Audley fight or are you just gonna yell "he won a gold medal" all night?
I said the Klitschko's are more well known in America. Not because i think i know what YANKS think. But because its a simple fact. The Klitschko's have been on HBO several times, whereas Haye has never. Adamek is more well known in the US than Haye. Its not my opinion, its the way it is. You have a lot to learn.
Ohhh, well looky-here! The American poser says Olympic medals mean nothing! :lol1:
Prizefighter is the top tournament for British heavyweights and Harrison has won it. Chisora hasn't. And yes, I have seen Harrison fight. Maybe even more than you have.
What does HBO have to do with it? Tyson wasn't fighting on HBO throughout most of the 90s, yet he was the most popular fighter of that decade.
I have nothing to learn, because there's nothing that I understand. I already know everything I need to know and I suggest you educate YOURSELF.
Your points don't really hold much weight, anyways.
Chisora is inexperienced and has accomplished less than Harrison. Make fun of Harrison's Olympic medal and Prizefighter trophy all you want, but it's still more than what Chisora has accomplished at this stage.
Wlad will be the WBA champ once he beats Haye - which will never happen because not only will he not be able to beat him, but he doesn't even wanna agree to fair terms.
You said the Klitschko's are more popular in America, meaning you think you know what Americans think. Understand? :dunce:
And please don't use the term "Yank". It's offensive.
Olympic medals arent won in the pros so dead that shiit. The Prizefighter tournament is a bunch of bums or hasbeens swinging at each other for 3 rounds. Harrison even struggled in that before his power bailed him out....just like against Sprott. Chisora would beat him. Martin Rogan....a taxi driver....beat Audley. Have you seen Audley fight or are you just gonna yell "he won a gold medal" all night?
I said the Klitschko's are more well known in America. Not because i think i know what YANKS think. But because its a simple fact. The Klitschko's have been on HBO several times, whereas Haye has never. Adamek is more well known in the US than Haye. Its not my opinion, its the way it is. You have a lot to learn.
Your points don't really hold much weight, anyways.
Chisora is inexperienced and has accomplished less than Harrison. Make fun of Harrison's Olympic medal and Prizefighter trophy all you want, but it's still more than what Chisora has accomplished at this stage.
Wlad will be the WBA champ once he beats Haye - which will never happen because not only will he not be able to beat him, but he doesn't even wanna agree to fair terms.
You said the Klitschko's are more popular in America, meaning you think you know what Americans think. Understand? :dunce:
And please don't use the term "Yank". It's offensive.
Haye will beat Wlad
Haye-Vitali is a tough fight for haye
Where did i try to explain what the average American thinks?
Even if I was a Yank, i wouldnt be able to explain that. What the fuk are you on about? You didnt respond to a single point i made, instead you're telling me Im not American which I thought would have been abundantely obvious to anyone with half an eye.
Your points don't really hold much weight, anyways.
Chisora is inexperienced and has accomplished less than Harrison. Make fun of Harrison's Olympic medal and Prizefighter trophy all you want, but it's still more than what Chisora has accomplished at this stage.
Wlad will be the WBA champ once he beats Haye - which will never happen because not only will he not be able to beat him, but he doesn't even wanna agree to fair terms.
You said the Klitschko's are more popular in America, meaning you think you know what Americans think. Understand? :dunce:
And please don't use the term "Yank". It's offensive.
Yes, you did get exposed. You're British and you're trying to explain what the average American thinks.
Where did i try to explain what the average American thinks?
Even if I was a Yank, i wouldnt be able to explain that. What the fuk are you on about? You didnt respond to a single point i made, instead you're telling me Im not American which I thought would have been abundantely obvious to anyone with half an eye.
Exposed? :lol1:
Yeah you got me there, I was really trying to hide it too. What with "UK" in my name, British fighter in my pic and the British flag in my avy.
How the fuk did you crack the code?
Yes, you did get exposed. You're British and you're trying to explain what the average American thinks.
Is that yours? Yeah, you got exposed as a non-American. Deal with it.
Exposed? :lol1:
Yeah you got me there, I was really trying to hide it too. What with "UK" in my name, British fighter in my pic and the British flag in my avy.
How the fuk did you crack the code?
How about we do it like this, here are Hayes last 3 opponents next to Wlad and Vitali.
Haye
1. John "Quiet Man" Ruiz-Won 3 fights in the last 6 years. Terrible, old, washed up. Those 3 wins against Serin, McCline and Tisdale on average had 13 losses. Terrible
2. Nikolai Valuev- Old, hasnt won since he ropped holyfield in 2008. Last person of any merit he legit beat was Liakhovich who if you remember was KO'ed by Shannon Briggs.
3. Monte Barrett-Barrett came to the ring having slept in the streets and starving. He was brought to England on an old slave ship and then dumped their. He didnt know the language, he had no money and none of his staff was allowed to come. They blindfolded him and brought him to the ring and thats when he found out he was fighting Haye. That adn Barrett has won 3 timesi n his last 10 fights.
Vitali Klitschko
1. Shannon "The Cannon" Briggs- 2 time heavyweight champion, wins over an ATG HOF, big strong and mean
2. Albert Sosnowski- the man was 45-2 when he entered the ring. Was the Euro champ. Much more in shape and fresh than any Haye opponent
3. Kingpin- undefeated, tough strong and mean.
Wladimir Klitschko
1. Sam Peter- The Nigerian nightmare. He puts you to sleep and then he haunts your dreams. Former champion a monster, only lost to Klitschko's and Fast Eddie. Has beaten future HOFers
2.Fast Eddie Chambers-35-1. The fastest hands of any heavyweight ever seen. He has toppled giants. Young, fresh, 1 defeat and wins over many contenders. Top 5 ranked HW.
3. Ruslan White Tyson Chagaev- undefeated, beat Valuev better than Haye could ever dream of. He's like Haye if you died Haye white and gave him roids for 15 years. He also has wins over a fresher john ruiz and a fresher valuev. White Tyson>>>>>Haye
This post is such a disgraceful attempt at trolling that I'm not even gonna grace it with a serious response.
Also dirk diggler you are seriously overlooking the fact that American tv will not play a big part in terms of total revenue generated for this fight, I will be surprised if HBO or showtime pay $5 million for the rights, in fact im almost certain they won't.
Haye has fought the better opposition in the last year than either Klitschko brother has.
PAST OPPONENTS
Let's take a look at Haye's last two opponents:
Nikolay Valuev - 50-1 and two-time world champion
John Ruiz - Two-time world champion
Now Wladimir's last two:
Eddie Chambers - Contender
Samuel Peter - One-time world champion
And finally Vitali's:
Albert Sosnowski - Unranked journeyman who lost to 23-14-4 Zuri Lawrence
Shannon Briggs - Unranked and was over 10 years past his prime
FUTURE OPPONENTS
Haye:
Audley Harrison - One of the best British heavyweights of the last decade
Wladimir:
Dereck Chisora - Inexperienced fighter with only 14 fights
So how can you bash Haye's choice of opponents when the Klitschko's are fighting worse opposition???
How about we do it like this, here are Hayes last 3 opponents next to Wlad and Vitali.
Haye
1. John "Quiet Man" Ruiz-Won 3 fights in the last 6 years. Terrible, old, washed up. Those 3 wins against Serin, McCline and Tisdale on average had 13 losses. Terrible
2. Nikolai Valuev- Old, hasnt won since he ropped holyfield in 2008. Last person of any merit he legit beat was Liakhovich who if you remember was KO'ed by Shannon Briggs.
3. Monte Barrett-Barrett came to the ring having slept in the streets and starving. He was brought to England on an old slave ship and then dumped their. He didnt know the language, he had no money and none of his staff was allowed to come. They blindfolded him and brought him to the ring and thats when he found out he was fighting Haye. That adn Barrett has won 3 timesi n his last 10 fights.
Vitali Klitschko
1. Shannon "The Cannon" Briggs- 2 time heavyweight champion, wins over an ATG HOF, big strong and mean
2. Albert Sosnowski- the man was 45-2 when he entered the ring. Was the Euro champ. Much more in shape and fresh than any Haye opponent
3. Kingpin- undefeated, tough strong and mean.
Wladimir Klitschko
1. Sam Peter- The Nigerian nightmare. He puts you to sleep and then he haunts your dreams. Former champion a monster, only lost to Klitschko's and Fast Eddie. Has beaten future HOFers
2.Fast Eddie Chambers-35-1. The fastest hands of any heavyweight ever seen. He has toppled giants. Young, fresh, 1 defeat and wins over many contenders. Top 5 ranked HW.
3. Ruslan White Tyson Chagaev- undefeated, beat Valuev better than Haye could ever dream of. He's like Haye if you died Haye white and gave him roids for 15 years. He also has wins over a fresher john ruiz and a fresher valuev. White Tyson>>>>>Haye
And Hatton brought a lot more than Haye...
no way...don't confuse popularity with actual figures, the whole fight was on a bigger scale, hatton had fought numerous times on US soil, and the fight was in the US, this one is not. I can almost guarantee that a heavyweight championship fight between haye and a klit will do as much if not more that the 1 million buys that hatton mayweather did, and im pretty sure the harrison haye fight is gonna totally eclipse what pac-hatton did on sky ppv. If im wrong il hold my hands up. Hatton brings more to a gate...that il give you, but fights of this magnitude will always sell out anyway.
Yeah and the Klitschko's are still more well known than Haye. No one in America really knows who Haye is for example, whereas the Klitschko's have been on HBO several times.
Haye is the challenger. He holds a paper title which actually belongs to Wlad.
Chisora would beat Harrison. Olympic Medals...lol you know this is the pros right? Prizefighter? You cant be serious....
You sound very confused.
What do you know Dirk Digger UK? You're not from America, so stop pretending you know what they think.
I think they could fight most places in the world and sell better than Haye, ppl don't know who he is other than in England and hardcore fans.
50/50 is a very generous offer, he is the challenger, he is of less world wide notoriety so it is incumbent on him to make some concessions to make this happen but he wants to be treated like and equal when in the sport he is not.
Haye has done everything possible to not make this fight happen and instead of trying to prove all of the things he has been saying is fighting a 40yr old journeyman who has never done anything of note in the sport.
Some of what your saying is true and some I disagree with but none of it matters **** when it comes to the negotiations, money is what talks and bottom line is that in a haye vs klitschko fight taking place on european soil, haye backed by British tv brings more money to the table then both klits, significantly more, they know this otherwise they would agree to haye's demands. Hbo will not put up enough money to justify the split, if the fight was in the US, well then thats a different story and klits would have more leverage. But in the current situation you basically are stating opinions and talking crap really