I don't think Pacquiao will dominate Margarito

the ts(a pactard) is trying to hype margo to something he's not to make it seem as if pac is actually taking a hard fight. margo is shot to **** and his last fight proved it. :lol1: yeah, that's what im doing. read the rest of the thread. i said pacquiao could have faced bigger threats than margarito.

Why does everyone claim that Tony's last fight was garbage. He knockdown a bigger stronger boxer and continued on to win every round in a shutout. So what if he did not use his old style, he has a new trainer, plus he didn't need to. He did just fine controling the distance and showing off his underrated boxing skills.

Pac isn't adding any weight. He will look exactly the same as he did the last three fights or so now. isnt he? fight at 150 (lmw), doesnt that mean he has to weigh in over 147 on weigh in? pac has never weighed more than 147 on weigh in day.

Pac isn't adding any weight. He will look exactly the same as he did the last three fights or so now.

The popular prediction is Pacquiao whoops him and ends up with stopping him late. But im starting to think its gonna be more competitive than what some make it out to be. Manny will definitely slow down because of the added weight. The question is how slow is he gonna be against margarito. Margarito is a hungry fighter. Getting ko'd and suspended, he has more to prove. A hungry fighter is a dangerous fighter. And from what i've been seeing, he's been training like a mad man. I still think pacquiao beats him in a war only ppl think that Toni isnt a threat are flomos. doing their best to discredit pac's opponent like they always do haha! thruth

I kind of agree with my old man in this when he says that if Manny displays the same stamina and workrate like he did in his fight with Clottey, then Magarito could even make Clottey look better by surviving the distance. Bear in mind that punches that you see coming are easier to take than the ones you don't see. They could ko you cold, lose your game plan and composure. Margarito likes to brawl and fight it out leaving Manny a lot of options for his counter strikes. Margarito would have a field day countering those unforeseen strikes. However, if Manny shows any sign of slowing down, I don't think he would survive the Margarito onslaught. -----

Every fighter has their limits. I think pac will out work and out move Marg, but he may not get the stoppage because Marg has a great chin, and only SMM gave him a real beating by standing in their with him. SMM loves to fight that way. I think Pac may load up on his counters, but maybe he will be moving too much to get real power into his shots. Pac could fade late if marg can keep the pressure on him.

Pacqiauo beats the living hell out of Margarito.

True,but don't forget about Margarito's stamina,that's the wildcard here,Cotto slows down,Clottey doesn't ever start & DLH was shot!!What's gonna happen when a bigger,stronger man who isn't going anywhere is still there matching workrate with the Pacman?? spot on, pacman never fought anyone the same workrate as him. I dont understand why people say this going to be a one sided match. This going to be a decision, but a war.

I think Manny would've been unbeatable at 140, but at this weight, it may be too much. First of all, you watch his fight against Clottey and you know if Clottey would've been more active the fight would've been close. Margarito comes to this fight with more hunger than ever, and he has all the physical advantages. He only has to stay active and make sure he gets to Manny's body because Manny won't hurt him, there's no way. I see Manny cruising to an UD or Margs by late TKO.

i would actually be more surprised if pacquiao ko's him. the safe bet for me is pacquiao by UD. your'e right, pacquiao doesn't have mosley-type power. if pacquiao is able to hurt margarito, then margarito is fucked. True,but don't forget about Margarito's stamina,that's the wildcard here,Cotto slows down,Clottey doesn't ever start & DLH was shot!!What's gonna happen when a bigger,stronger man who isn't going anywhere is still there matching workrate with the Pacman??

Some people are saying height and reach advantages are non issues here. I don't know why. I need a very thorough explanation for that.

It's do or die for Margarito as his whole career and legacy is on the line. He doesn't even have to win, but make this highly competitive and it erases any talks of plaster being used in his prior fights. He loses, and dude is pretty much done. So come Nov 13th, we will see the best Margarito possible and I truly believe he makes Pac work harder than any opponent since Marquez. I'm actually glad this fight is happening as I know Margarito will come to fight, unlike someone like Berto who will start hugging and running as soon as he feels Manny's power.

wouldn't suprise me if margo gives pac a tough time. pac is underestimating margarito big time and he's not training seriously.

I like your neutrality, and even though most of us had picking Pacquiao at the start, as time passes it seems more and more people are open to the idea of Margarito actually being competitive, if not at least putting up a fight and not going quietly into the night. Clottey was inactive for most of the fight against Pacquiao, and again, he DID land his shots and gave Pacquiao some bruises. What I think people have to consider is that, while Margarito will be most likely more offensive-minded than Clottey, it will leave him more open to get countered...and probably not in single punches, but in combinations. Add to that, Pacquiao has speed. It's probably not so much that Margarito gets hurt because of Pacquiao's power (because he has decent power at welterweight), but it'll probably be because he doesn't see the punches coming. I keep coming back to Hatton, a pressure fighter who would come in and just throw these 1 punch KO type of punches, and Pacquiao was able to deal with Ricky's quick footwork and relentless, albeit reckless, pressure. Cotto and Mosley made Margarito look slow. Pacquiao is a fast southpaw. You take Margarito (who is considered slow) and Pacquiao...it should be safely assumed that chance favors Pacquiao with all the attributes he possesses. Will he get hurt? Probably. Might we see him in trouble at some points? Sure, can't rule it out. Should Pacquiao come in as the favorite? Most definitely. PS: I'm not sure if anyone's noticed this, but Pacquiao's last 4 opponents had trainers they weren't very familiar with (five if you count Margarito)... Clottey had Lenny DeJesus because his trainer couldn't get a VISA. (hmm...?) Cotto had some young guy (can't remember his name) who had only worked with him for the Clottey fight. Hatton had Floyd Mayweather, Sr. who had only worked with him for the Malignaggi fight. De la Hoya went up and added a new trainer to his long line of trainers throughout his career by using Nacho's services. Just something else to think about. Margarito shouldn't come in as the favorite even by fight night...

I agree here!!I don't think Pacman packs Mosley's type of power & he gets hit alot & Margarito throws a lot!!Margarito usually has loads of stamina as well,so instead of slowing down,he stays strong!!I expect Pacman to start fast while Margarito just keeps coming forward firing away & hitting Pacman on occation!!Then I think moving into the middle rounds Margarito closes the gap & powers down the last stretch of the fight!!Maybe Roach will be forced to throw in the towel,Margarito upset!! i would actually be more surprised if pacquiao ko's him. the safe bet for me is pacquiao by UD. your'e right, pacquiao doesn't have mosley-type power. if pacquiao is able to hurt margarito, then margarito is fucked.

people put too much weight on margarito's last two fights. he was mentally ****ed when he fought mosley, and he was coming off a long lay off when he faced garcia. i still think pac beats him, but it ain't gonna be a shut out. margarito's gonna be more competitive than cotto, oscar, or clottey.

I agree here!!I don't think Pacman packs Mosley's type of power & he gets hit alot & Margarito throws a lot!!Margarito usually has loads of stamina as well,so instead of slowing down,he stays strong!!I expect Pacman to start fast while Margarito just keeps coming forward firing away & hitting Pacman on occation!!Then I think moving into the middle rounds Margarito closes the gap & powers down the last stretch of the fight!!Maybe Roach will be forced to throw in the towel,Margarito upset!!

the pac hate clouds the people's judgement. they're already discrediting him if he wins... yes, there are more threats out there that pacquiao could have faced. but margarito isn't gonna be a walk in the park..

i don't know why a lot of people are acting like margarito isn't a threat. he is a very live dog in this fight. I agree with you about Margarito but I believe that he may pull the upset