Why is everyone saying Margarito is too big for Pac?

After reading this I am now convinced Margarito has the same reach, height, and weight as pacquiao. Come on, you got to be the dumbest person to compare a rehydrated person to dehydrated person. Seriously why would anyone dehydrate themselves if they cant even reach 150 at full hydration.

I have already made my points quite clearly in my previous posts. From the statements you have made, I would have to say that you are not being objective. Before the fight, all we have are opinions. Once the fight plays out, I believe and hope that I can comment objectively...... again, from your comments, this doesn't appear to be the case for you .... Let's hope that changes .... Time (Nov 13) will tell. By the way, I didn't even say that he is too big for Manny. In my previous posts (other threads), I pointed out that Margo's size can play out as one of the variables if Margo is able to defeat Manny.... but there are other variables that complete the equation. Objectively? The hell are you talking about. So now all of sudden Marg is this master boxer that actually uses his height and reach? Man please hes coming to brawl. Clottey is bigger and stronger than Margarito and Manny was fine. Hell Clottey was bullying Margarito. Sell that hes too big crap to someone else. Margarito DOES NOT use his size. EVER. So it wont play into the fight.

Why is everyone saying Margarito is too big for Pac?. Because he was to big for Mayweather and Pacquiao was once a flyweight!

So what. Clottey weighed 165 or more. So again cut the shyt bro. If Marg lays into his ass just man up and admit your dude got his ass beat. I dont want to hear "Well the mighty pac just went up too far". Man fukk that. Marg does not use his height or reach and looked like shyt in his last fight. Pac SHOULD NOT lose this fight. If he does its a big blow to his legacy. I have already made my points quite clearly in my previous posts. From the statements you have made, I would have to say that you are not being objective. Before the fight, all we have are opinions. Once the fight plays out, I believe and hope that I can comment objectively...... again, from your comments, this doesn't appear to be the case for you .... Let's hope that changes .... Time (Nov 13) will tell. By the way, I didn't even say that he is too big for Manny. In my previous posts (other threads), I pointed out that Margo's size can play out as one of the variables if Margo is able to defeat Manny.... but there are other variables that complete the equation.

While I hoped Manny would use Margo as a stepping stone, the latest news from Team Manny is that he may step back down to 147. You know why? They are saying that "it's just too much size difference fighting these bigger guys, .... Margo may come in at 165 while Manny may come in close to 150" http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=31960 So Roach/Manny too are saying size is a factor. So what. Clottey weighed 165 or more. So again cut the shyt bro. If Marg lays into his ass just man up and admit your dude got his ass beat. I dont want to hear "Well the mighty pac just went up too far". Man fukk that. Marg does not use his height or reach and looked like shyt in his last fight. Pac SHOULD NOT lose this fight. If he does its a big blow to his legacy.

You still didn't answer as to how Margo does win it if he has no chance in hell. If he is shot, past it, too slow, .... then how can he possibly beat Manny if you say he has no talent to do it? There must be a variable that gives him that chance. What is it, if size is not part of that variable? So you can come up with 2 completely different comments, as you did and others can't come in here and say, Margo is going to win because he is too big? Or after looking at the fight, someone can't objectively look at the fight and come to that conclusion? You have never contributed to someone losing because 1 guy was too big? Especially when 1 guy keeps on moving up the divisions. It doesn't necessarily need to be an excuse. It can be a fact. Before a fight, we all make predictions and why one thinks the fighter will win or lose BUT not until the fight will we really know 100% why they won or lost. Sometimes even then, you need to get more information post fight (example, injuries,....). Before Trinidad fought Hopkins, I thought he moved up 1 too many divisions. Sure, Hopkins contributed to that but we also know that Trinidad was not able to bring his assets comfortably to that fight. Same thing happened when he fought Roy Jr. Roy Jr laughed after the fight and said, no way was a smaller guy going to beat me in my division. If Roy can use that, then I think others can as well. Damn good post :fing02:

You still didn't answer as to how Margo does win it if he has no chance in hell. If he is shot, past it, too slow, .... then how can he possibly beat Manny if you say he has no talent to do it? There must be a variable that gives him that chance. What is it, if size is not part of that variable? So you can come up with 2 completely different comments, as you did and others can't come in here and say, Margo is going to win because he is too big? Or after looking at the fight, someone can't objectively look at the fight and come to that conclusion? You have never contributed to someone losing because 1 guy was too big? Especially when 1 guy keeps on moving up the divisions. It doesn't necessarily need to be an excuse. It can be a fact. Before a fight, we all make predictions and why one thinks the fighter will win or lose BUT not until the fight will we really know 100% why they won or lost. Sometimes even then, you need to get more information post fight (example, injuries,....). Before Trinidad fought Hopkins, I thought he moved up 1 too many divisions. Sure, Hopkins contributed to that but we also know that Trinidad was not able to bring his assets comfortably to that fight. Same thing happened when he fought Roy Jr. Roy Jr laughed after the fight and said, no way was a smaller guy going to beat me in my division. If Roy can use that, then I think others can as well. good post my dude. you win at logic

No one is saying Manny might lose just because Margarito is too "big", but because Margarito's fighting style + his bigger size could be too much for the smaller Pacquiao. You saying Clottey "looked big" means nothing, did he use his size advantage in any way? Nope... does Clottey's style rely on his size as his main advantage? nope.... Is Clottey a safety first fighter? Yep.... and that's where his size probably saved him from being hurt by Pac. Anyway, this thread is retarded, it's easy to tell your just saying this now in the hopes that Pac loses so you can bump this crap thread. Anyway, props to Manny for taking a risk and chopping down bigger trees. Clottey used his side to absorb punishment on his defense, Margo more than likely will use his size to be offensive. As you said two different styles

I dissagree. Clottey looked more full and he was the stronger in that fight. Especially befor ehe hurt his hand. He was bullying Margarito. Saying the only reason Pac loses is because Marg is big. Is just a lame cop out. If he loses its because Marg beat his ass. No one is saying Manny might lose just because Margarito is too "big", but because Margarito's fighting style + his bigger size could be too much for the smaller Pacquiao. You saying Clottey "looked big" means nothing, did he use his size advantage in any way? Nope... does Clottey's style rely on his size as his main advantage? nope.... Is Clottey a safety first fighter? Yep.... and that's where his size probably saved him from being hurt by Pac. Anyway, this thread is retarded, it's easy to tell your just saying this now in the hopes that Pac loses so you can bump this crap thread. Anyway, props to Manny for taking a risk and chopping down bigger trees.

Again Marg does NOT use his height. And again Clottey weighed over 165 Pounds. No excuses people. Marg and Clottey are completely different style wise, Marg will use his size. Clottey was too defensive so his size didn't matter so much.

as i said, you dont understand the difference between taller and bigger. who is bigger, a guy thats 6'1 and 175lbs or a guy thats 5'11 and 220lbs? please say the 6'1/175lbs guy...i dare you That comparison is awful and irrelevant. Margarito and Clottey stood in the ring and fought each other, and Margarito was BIGGER. No two ways about it.

When have I ever picked Margarito to win? Not once. Im just saying if he gets his ass beat dont try to cop out and blame him losing to a shot, past it, slow Margarito because of his "size". Where in this thread did I say Marg will win? I am Picking Pac to win. Im just saying if Pac loses dont come in here with excuses. While I hoped Manny would use Margo as a stepping stone, the latest news from Team Manny is that he may step back down to 147. You know why? They are saying that "it's just too much size difference fighting these bigger guys, .... Margo may come in at 165 while Manny may come in close to 150" http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=31960 So Roach/Manny too are saying size is a factor.

When have I ever picked Margarito to win? Not once. Im just saying if he gets his ass beat dont try to cop out and blame him losing to a shot, past it, slow Margarito because of his "size". Where in this thread did I say Marg will win? I am Picking Pac to win. Im just saying if Pac loses dont come in here with excuses. You still didn't answer as to how Margo does win it if he has no chance in hell. If he is shot, past it, too slow, .... then how can he possibly beat Manny if you say he has no talent to do it? There must be a variable that gives him that chance. What is it, if size is not part of that variable? So you can come up with 2 completely different comments, as you did and others can't come in here and say, Margo is going to win because he is too big? Or after looking at the fight, someone can't objectively look at the fight and come to that conclusion? You have never contributed to someone losing because 1 guy was too big? Especially when 1 guy keeps on moving up the divisions. It doesn't necessarily need to be an excuse. It can be a fact. Before a fight, we all make predictions and why one thinks the fighter will win or lose BUT not until the fight will we really know 100% why they won or lost. Sometimes even then, you need to get more information post fight (example, injuries,....). Before Trinidad fought Hopkins, I thought he moved up 1 too many divisions. Sure, Hopkins contributed to that but we also know that Trinidad was not able to bring his assets comfortably to that fight. Same thing happened when he fought Roy Jr. Roy Jr laughed after the fight and said, no way was a smaller guy going to beat me in my division. If Roy can use that, then I think others can as well.

Sorry but what was the reason that you gave that explains how Margo would beat Manny? I didn't get that precise explanation from you. You and some of the other Floyd fans have said that this fight is a joke and that Manny is going to destroy Margo. That there was no chance in hell that Margo can beat Manny. I can get you plenty of examples, if you wish. When threads or posts were made that Margo has a chance, you and other Floyd fans quickly made sure that it couldn't happen because Margo is a shot fighter. Remember? So if you guys keep on insisting that those who think that Margo is going to win is in fantasy land then how do you even come up with this topic and be serious about it? With this thread, you pretty much did a complete turn around and gave Margo a serious chance of winning. Why the change? When have I ever picked Margarito to win? Not once. Im just saying if he gets his ass beat dont try to cop out and blame him losing to a shot, past it, slow Margarito because of his "size". Where in this thread did I say Marg will win? I am Picking Pac to win. Im just saying if Pac loses dont come in here with excuses.

Nailed it........................... Sorry but what was the reason that you gave that explains how Margo would beat Manny? I didn't get that precise explanation from you. You and some of the other Floyd fans have said that this fight is a joke and that Manny is going to destroy Margo. That there was no chance in hell that Margo can beat Manny. I can get you plenty of examples, if you wish. When threads or posts were made that Margo has a chance, you and other Floyd fans quickly made sure that it couldn't happen because Margo is a shot fighter. Remember? So if you guys keep on insisting that those who think that Margo is going to win is in fantasy land then how do you even come up with this topic and be serious about it? With this thread, you pretty much did a complete turn around and gave Margo a serious chance of winning. Why the change?

Saying the only reason Pac loses is because Marg is big. Is just a lame cop out. If he loses its because Marg beat his ass. You have to admit that it is a two sided issue. If a fighter keeps moving up in weight (which Pac undisputedly is), eventually he'll find an opponent too big for him. But of course Manny's legacy takes a major hit if he loses, just like Floyd's would have if he lost to DLH at 154.

That's odd because when I saw the two of them fight each other, Margarito looked bigger. An optical illusion? I dissagree. Clottey looked more full and he was the stronger in that fight. Especially befor ehe hurt his hand. He was bullying Margarito. Saying the only reason Pac loses is because Marg is big. Is just a lame cop out. If he loses its because Marg beat his ass.

are you kidding me? cheato is taller than clottey but hes not bigger That's odd because when I saw the two of them fight each other, Margarito looked bigger. An optical illusion?

Because Margarito is BIGGER. You can deny it all you want but he is. How???? Clottey is a tank. Hell Clottey was bullying Margarito unitil he broke his hand. Clottey is bigger and stronger than Margarito. http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/1177/Joshua-Clottey5.jpg So how will Marg being "big" some how win him the fight. When he DOES NOT use his advantages?

I completely agree. If Pacquiao loses(which I don't see happening), there won't be any excuses from me. Exactly man.... I cant beleive people are making excuses. How the heck is Marg too big. Makes no sense at all.