Mosley is a proven cheater, and Trinidad cheat most of his career,in the Hopkins fight he was caught using excessive tape to harden the wraps like plaster cast, according to Trinidad Sr, he wrap his hands the same way for all the fights, discus.
Tito is not a cheat. If Tito's father has been wrapping his hands the same way his whole career, getting the all clear from the guys appointed by the commission to make sure he is not doing anything illegal, then how is he cheating? an extra bit of a gauze is not cheating, especially when its being okay'd by the official people.
Puerto Rico has the two Top P4P cheaters in the world,
1.Resto.
2.Trinidad
Trinidad beside using illegal wraps against Fernando Vargas, he also cheat in front of Millions of people when cowardly hit Vargas in the balls to survive been Knock Out, if you don't believe me watch the fight. so Puerto Rico in proportion produce more cheater than any other country in the world.
Ricans you ever heard about Yamil Chade the autor of the book Low blows
the very famous Puerto Rican manager, I'm going to read his book and bring you guys more information about Rican Cheaters.
i dont think one race holds the title of "cheaters" its the character of the man that causes him to "win at any cost". i dont like low ball cheaters the sport is rough enough without trying to kill your opponet. throughout the history of the sport, all races have been represented by cheaters. some of them have never been caught. just talk to any ex or current fighter and they will tell you who cheats and who is honest.
Prior to the hearing, the California State Athletic Commission sent one of the inserts to the Bureau of Forensic Services at the California Department of Justice for testing. The Commission rejected a request by Margarito’s attorney to allow his own expert to analyze the inserts. The lab results were not in before the hearing. On March 19, 2009, the Bureau of Forensic Services forwarded a report to the CSAC that read, “Calcium and sulpher, two elements found in plaster of Paris, were found on the submitted gauze pad using an X-ray fluorescence spectrometer. The elements calcium, sulpher, and oxygen are found in plaster of Paris. These three elements are also found in substances other than plaster. Oxygen is not detectable by XRF
According to CSAC there was no plaster so Margarito is Innocent.now stick to the topic will you?
just to clarify, so tony was suspended for one year and is still being denied a license to box in cali and you say he is innocent? tony has the most powerful promoter in the game and still cant box in cali or other states. only in texas and YOU say he is innocent? so are they just picking on tony???? so brother naz didnt find a hard substance in the wraps? and when the other was unwrapped they observed another Hard substance. he is mistaken too? so what did tonys trainer get banned from the sport for? why did tony say he didnt know his trainer was a rotten cheater and had no clue(LOL) what he was putting in his wraps? too much evidence screams GUILTY why dont you see that?
Puerto Rico has the two Top P4P cheaters in the world,
1.Resto.
2.Trinidad
Trinidad beside using illegal wraps against Fernando Vargas, he also cheat in front of Millions of people when cowardly hit Vargas in the balls to survive been Knock Out, if you don't believe me watch the fight. so Puerto Rico in proportion produce more cheater than any other country in the world.
Ricans you ever heard about Yamil Chade the autor of the book Low blows
the very famous Puerto Rican manager, I'm going to read his book and bring you guys more information about Rican Cheaters.
get your $hit straight you stupid animal he had tape then gauze and do that a couple times and you create a cast. huge difference then having extra guaze
Trinidad got kTFO with out his "special" hand wraps, what a coincidence.
Mosley is a proven cheater, and Trinidad cheat most of his career,in the Hopkins fight he was caught using excessive tape to harden the wraps like plaster cast, according to Trinidad Sr, he wrap his hands the same way for all the fights, discus.
was Trinidad brought before the commission? Did anybody other than the Hopkins camp say antying about Trinidad's wraps. GTFO, Trinidad just hit hard and Hopkins beat up a blown up welterweight and got his ass whipped by Calzaghe.
http://www.****************/boxing-forum-general-discussion/15528-trinidad-wraps-were-much-different-than-margaritos-naazim.html
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To me, Trindad's situation was much, much different than Margarito's. What Trindad did was actually legal in some places. It just wasn't legal in New York. I had the rulebook with me right there in my hand.
The Ring: What happened in Trindad's locker room?
NR: When I came into the room, I think it was his left hand that was already wrapped. I asked for the bylaws about hand wraps before the fight. I didn't see the hand get wrapped. Someone from Hopkins' camp had to be there to witness the hands being wrapped. I spoke to a commissioner about it. he said that he was there to watch his hand get wrapped. Then I asked him, "Do you work for the Hopkins camp??" I think I asked him twice. He said, no, so I told the commissioner I wanted to see Trinidad get his hands wrapped again - both of them.
Before you know it, Papa Trinidad flipped out and went off, and people in the room started threating me (laughs). They said I was scared. I told them I don't have to fight Trinidad tonight, what do I have to be scared about (laughs)? They were telling me Bernard was going to get knocked out. I didn't want to budge from what I knew was right. If something happened to Bernard, and something came out later about Trinidad's hand wraps, I would have blamed myself. It would have been because I didn't do my job.
The Ring: How crazy did it get?
NR: Real crazy. The Trinidad people brought in the HBO people and the Trinidad people were yelling that the fight was off. Then they went over and they got Donald Trump to come into Trinidad's locker room. Was I supposed to be impressed by Donald Trump and roller over? I didn't even acknowledge him (laughs). Then they called for Don King to come in. Don King came back yelling, what does he have to do with hand wraps (laughs). It was all crazy. I remember the Trinidad people went over and got Bouie, because I was causing such a ruckus. The Trinidad people pulled Bouie aside and brought him into a little room. They tried to talk him into getting the fight moving and how I was holding up a multi-million dollar fight (laughs).
I was supposed to look at Donald Trump and Dong King and be over-whelmed. They thought I was going to fold. I wasn't budging on what I knew was right. I had the bylaws with me right there in my hands. pointing to them what was right in the rulebook.
I had to see the hands get wrapped!
Finally, the commision said that I was right. The thing that got me was Trinidad's pop said the fight was off, and the joint went crazy. None of that impressed me. Trinidad had to re-wrap in front of me. Papa unwrapped the left hand and starting re-wrapping the left again.
The Ring: What did you see?
NR. I noticed that Papa was layering too much tape and gauze on Tito's hand, and that wasn't allowed. It was amazing. The commision was there, watching and no one said anything. Papa Trinidad said that every time they fought at MSG, that's the way he wrapped his hands. I told him, "Not against my guy."
The athletic commision told him the proper way to wrap the hand and he wrapped it the right way. Watching another fighter get his hands wrapped, which would normally take 10, maybe 15 minutes, took an hour to get resolved. I wasn't budging from my stands. That's because I was right, backed by fact. I had to say something. There were no doubts whatsoever. There's nothing I would change from that night. I can smile, because I like being in position to protect my guy. The rest is history.
Think about this: No one before or since stopped William Joppy the way Trinidad did to him. I don't know and I can't say if Trinidad wrapped his hands a certain way or not in any of his previous fights. All I can say is what I saw that night with Bernard. I watched Bernard beat Joppy to death, but no one put him down like Trinidad did. That's all I can say.
The Ring: How was Trinidad different than Margarito?
NR: Trinidad was an abrasion against the rules. Margarito downright had a weapon. There is a difference when you say you're playing chess and have your men lined up differently, as opposed to having extra men on the board. Margarito tried to bring extra men. He had a knuckle pad. Margarito had a strip over the back of his hand, around his thumb and wrist. They told me it was because of a previous injury was why they wrapped it that way. One look and you could tell it wasn't right.
get your $hit straight you stupid animal he had tape then gauze and do that a couple times and you create a cast. huge difference then having extra guaze
He DID NOT have tape on his hands then gauze you little pustulic excrescence, that is an urban legend which grew up after it had been kicked around to death for months .
Why does one of you dirty little snotty nosed crappers never want to write to Trinidad Sr. and ask him about it. He's said several times that he wouuld be happy always top show exactly what he does...with ALL his fighters, not just his son, that is HIS method of wrapping.
Well in that case why don't you take his whole sentences IN CONTEXT, instead of selectively sheating to make your antaginistic point. Trinidad SPECIFICALLY said that he has ALWAYS done the bandages the same way, and that they have always been inspected and passed.
He ALSO GAVE A THOROUGH AND COMPLETE DEMONSTRATION ON SCREEN , of the way he did the bandages, and said that he intended to continue doing it the same way.
His "system" was to put a pad of cotton wool over the knuckle so that a piece of it PROTRUDED and then turn this back one fold making a double pad there. THAT WAS ALLLLLL
So now you little pieces of dirt who have made it their life's work to try to denigrate great fighters can crawl away into your rotten little homes.
As an unneccessary little footnote to this not-even-a-storm-in-a-teachp, there was a lengthy learned discussion by Atlas, Merchant and a few others who ALLLL unanimously agreed that this did NOT give more clout to the punch, but less, that it padded the fist to protect it. that was what padding was all about , not to protect the jaw.
Mosley is a proven cheater, and Trinidad cheat most of his career,in the Hopkins fight he was caught using excessive tape to harden the wraps like plaster cast, according to Trinidad Sr, he wrap his hands the same way for all the fights, discus.
who's a bigger idiot...you or cungle? discuss.
First, I never disrespected you, especially not over the internet, its just not tough and it shows how insecure you really are. Eye brow plucker? Say that in a Ricans face, in the US or on the island where they really would make sure you're never seen again - even if you happen to find one who really does his eyebrows he'd probly still be way tougher than you (internet thug) - so go ahead, I dare you, and come back and tell me what happens...I thought so.
The midget happens to be the P4P best fighter in the world, who is going to beat the **** out of your idol, so you can shove that comment back into you mouth, where the dicks you suck are usually found.
Cotto will forever be damaged after that cheatdown he got by your boy - who looked like $hit it his last two fights, which we know he was clean in. And if the commission didn't find anything harmful than PLEASE tell me why he was suspened, for old guaze? For nothing? Oh yeah i forgot it was a conspircay for idiots like me, right? Conspiracy my ass, you defend Cheato more than he defended himslef!!! LOL his defense was I dont know, I didnt know what Garcia was putting in my wraps. And you guys say you know? You know more than the guys who investigated thoroughly and then suspended your *** idol? Yeah, keep dreaming, you racist *****.
You Ricans can't accept the truth ,Margo beat Cotto fair and square, keep worshiping that hype job Cotto, and yes boxing is the most corrupted sport out there, always been and always will.
They didn't find plaster idiot you know how to read? Margarito was suspended by the boxing mafia to take advantage from retards like you who support clowns like Cotto and Gaywether, yous idiots are so easy to fool is not even funny,
look what the midget did to you herohttp://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1741/app967551258304569.jpg I guess he was using plater too
he looks like he was raped by twenty guys lol. now go suck a dick.
Like you eye brows plucker idol.
First, I never disrespected you, especially not over the internet, its just not tough and it shows how insecure you really are. Eye brow plucker? Say that in a Ricans face, in the US or on the island where they really would make sure you're never seen again - even if you happen to find one who really does his eyebrows he'd probly still be way tougher than you (internet thug) - so go ahead, I dare you, and come back and tell me what happens...I thought so.
The midget happens to be the P4P best fighter in the world, who is going to beat the **** out of your idol, so you can shove that comment back into you mouth, where the dicks you suck are usually found.
Cotto will forever be damaged after that cheatdown he got by your boy - who looked like $hit it his last two fights, which we know he was clean in. And if the commission didn't find anything harmful than PLEASE tell me why he was suspened, for old guaze? For nothing? Oh yeah i forgot it was a conspircay for idiots like me, right? Conspiracy my ass, you defend Cheato more than he defended himslef!!! LOL his defense was I dont know, I didnt know what Garcia was putting in my wraps. And you guys say you know? You know more than the guys who investigated thoroughly and then suspended your *** idol? Yeah, keep dreaming, you racist *****.
HA! Owned! Trinidad's situation was a little extra gauze, it does not amount to plaster-like punch and it was not illegal in all states, just some. What Marg did, which he got suspended for, was use plaster of paris, plain and simple it is illegal every fuking where. Mosley used steroids, again, illegal everywhere.
They didn't find plaster idiot you know how to read? Margarito was suspended by the boxing mafia to take advantage from retards like you who support clowns like Cotto and Gaywether, yous idiots are so easy to fool is not even funny,
look what the midget did to you herohttp://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1741/app967551258304569.jpg I guess he was using plater too
he looks like he was raped by twenty guys lol. now go suck a dick.
Like you eye brows plucker idol.