Is Dmitry pirog a paper champ?

90% of all title holders are paper champions, especially in the middleweight division since we have an undisputed champion in Martinez. But thats not to hold anything against Pirog, he is a talented fighter who is just playing the game.

That's a good point. Obviously he won a vacant title that was unjustly stripped from Martinez BUT he won it by fighting a highly touted prospect, in the US, for 50k, and seems very enthusiastic about fights vs Martinez, Williams, Pavlik, whatever guys will have him, so he seems like a good guy to have a belt. He's no Sturm. My exact thoughts. Good post.

I was a fan of Pirog way before NSB jumped on the bandwagon. I know how good Pirog is. I picked him to beat Jacobs. That fight was a mis match. I like Pirog but lets not act like Danny Jacobs was this amazing talent. Bull fukking sh*t Burner stop acting like if you didn't jump on the bandwagon, that was his first fukking fight televised in the US but I know damm well you didn't see his other fights. Fukking liar.

too many belts at each weight give you too many champions. a paper champion to me is a champion who takes easy options for fights, and won't face highly dangerous challengers, pirog hasn't even made a defence yet. I like haye but facing harrison is what i class a paper champion but for that amount of money i would too wlad is the same if he does fight chisora. That's a good point. Obviously he won a vacant title that was unjustly stripped from Martinez BUT he won it by fighting a highly touted prospect, in the US, for 50k, and seems very enthusiastic about fights vs Martinez, Williams, Pavlik, whatever guys will have him, so he seems like a good guy to have a belt. He's no Sturm.

I'll say the jury's still out. See what his next move is and if he keeps picking safe fights, yeah, he's a paper champ. If he takes chances, then no he isn't.

The wbo has always been the minor league of abc groups. Doesn't mean Pirog won't some day be real good and some wbo champs have excelled but often they are held back by the generic organization.

Who does Danny Jacobs fight like, does he have similar styles to any other boxers out there? And who does Pirog's style remind you of? Is he a mix of styles? jacobs fights like dirrel, if you want to make comparisons. Pirog mixes many styles.. From high guards to shoulder rolls. He squares up then gives you an angle, switches from orthodox to southpaw, and also uses a lot of slips and head movement as well as the other 2 defenses mentioned. These are all from him changing stances though.. always changing hand and feet position. His punches though... nothing special about his offensive tools. His defense though is incredibly versatile. I think only people who have seen him on other occasions other than just the jacobs fight need speak on this thread, really. Regardless of what people think of jacobs, fact remains it was a very easy fight. If he struggled, we can say he is on par with jacobs and won a good fight against an overrated opponent. But because he won so easily, who is to say jacobs is overrated? Jacobs for all we know could be VERY good and just happened to come across a legit p4p fighter. Pirog made it look easy, and was confident the entire time. We have no idea how good he actually is, or how bad jacobs actually is. Also, you are using the term Paper Champion wrong. Paper champ is a title given to champions who don't defend it against good opposition.

too many belts at each weight give you too many champions. a paper champion to me is a champion who takes easy options for fights, and won't face highly dangerous challengers, pirog hasn't even made a defence yet. I like haye but facing harrison is what i class a paper champion but for that amount of money i would too wlad is the same if he does fight chisora.

was fighting guys 25-5 in his fourth fight. the fact that he didn't just beat jacobs, but made it look EASY means you have no idea how good he really is. if it was a tough fight, we could argue.. but he made it look simple I was a fan of Pirog way before NSB jumped on the bandwagon. I know how good Pirog is. I picked him to beat Jacobs. That fight was a mis match. I like Pirog but lets not act like Danny Jacobs was this amazing talent.

Jacobs was the 2nd coming until Pirog KOd him easily so yes Pirog is a paper champ very overrated.

Dmitry pirog would beat Paul williams imo but he is still a paper champ.

Very good but untested. Beating an overrated Danny Jacobs doesnt mean he stands a chance vs Martinez or Williams like NSB is saying. I dont think hes a champion either. was fighting guys 25-5 in his fourth fight. the fact that he didn't just beat jacobs, but made it look EASY means you have no idea how good he really is. if it was a tough fight, we could argue.. but he made it look simple

Very good but untested. Beating an overrated Danny Jacobs doesnt mean he stands a chance vs Martinez or Williams like NSB is saying. I dont think hes a champion either.