No Im not on crack...
Just a thaught, i'd like some people opinions..
If Floyd said yeah lets fight, but at 147, IMO this would be a good move... It would shut the haters up because he'd be fighting a guy people say hes scared to death of. And at 147 I give Floyd a huge chance, I know PW says he can still make 147 but how much would this take out of him? IMO it would be a similar fight to May vs Diego Corrales... PW would most likely struggle at this weight leaving Floyd to batter him.
They only way I see PW beating Floyd at any weight is due to his non stop style, but at 147 I can bet that he would be a touch drained and have alot less stamina.
I know haters will always say 'ohh he was drained etc' But then if Pac did the same at 147 and beat PW this would be the biggest win in the world history of world historys...
Plus the fact Floyd would make alot more money from this fight than most people think. And another good name on his resume.
What you think guys?
Please no homo Pac Vs May Flomopactards fighting on this thread.. pleeaasseee
Truth.
I'm not a Gayweather fan but if he fight Williams I would give him prop alot, win or lose. Anyway stop dreaming, we all know it's not going happen. Williams doesn't have a vagina.
Im saying if Floyd can do better than what hes done so far. It would be a waste for him not to try. That would mean Floyd wasnt fulfilling his latent potential.
I mean if in fantasy world he had the ability to beat Vitali klitscho, let alone Sergio Martinez why not try?
Floyd needs to fight Mosley at 147 to be considered great, Pac needs to face clottey at 147 to be considered great. Pac needs to face Margarito @150 for the the 154 strap and is considered great. Floyd needs to hurry and face Martinez 154 a man who fights at middle weight, who just beat pavlik to be considered great.
The bar is apparently higher for FLoyd...I'd say he must be GREAT ALREADY!
No you didnt understand the essence of my post. We apparantly havent seen the best of Floyd. Floyd beating old SSM apparently isnt the limit to what he can achieve. SUpposedly Floyd can do better than that. So he needs to fight sergio to reach his potential because apparantly floyd can beat better opponents than SSM.
All im saying is im telling Floyd what hes got to to to surpass what hes done. Pac has done more than Floyd. Pac would most likely beat SSM as good as FLoyd did. So floyd needs to do something people think Pac might not be able to do.
Its the only way for Floyd.
sente brown
I have just noticed something very extraordinary on money MW. I have note seen him really bordered about his opponents once he steps into the ring.all he think is how to bit you up for 12 rounds. I have seen him really felling the heart of a fight even when he was heat by shane right hand in their second round sep fight. This makes money a great fighter. I don’t care who money fight in his next three fight Floyd wince them all.
Good points buddy, but thats why I said it might be smarter for Floyd at 147, obviously Im not certain on this but I recon PW stamina would deminish a fair bit at 147 if he was to struggle to make weight.. not saying that he would tho. But also with the south paws, Floyd seems to attack them more than orthodox fighters, this leads to him getting hit more as he leaves himself open. Im not sure if Floyd would choose to do this with PW as like you say, his work rate and size would be a huge factor. So maybe Floyd would just try to pot shot and show angles... Get in with a quick one two and then get back out again before Paul throws 10-12 punches back... I think it would be a high speed chess match.
I'd love to see how Floyd takes a huge combo to the chin. I know with SSM he took a good couple of right hands, but he clinched well, Id like to see how he responds to being hit 4-5 times without being able to clinch such a huge guy like PW.
I can dig it,but I don't see Floyd landing & bouncing outta the way for 12 rounds against that reach!!Besides Floyd hasn't been throwing much combo's lately & he can't win by potshotting once every 30 seconds against the Punisher!!Floyd also doesn't use his footwork anymore & he takes breaks against the ropes a lot more too!!This fight is just a horrible matchup for him!!
There is a huge difference between pressure from a smaller right handed fighter who's stamina wasn't there at 147,as compared to a taller left handed fighter with super stamina!!Look at what Judah & Corley,both left handed fighters were able to do early against Floyd!!I think it's more Floyd's conditioning,than him just figuring out people & adjusting!!He has great stamina & simply remains strong while others slow down!!Well the Punisher isn't slowing down & I just don't see Floyd handling that high workrate,pressure & southpaw stance coupled with the size difference!!
Good points buddy, but thats why I said it might be smarter for Floyd at 147, obviously Im not certain on this but I recon PW stamina would deminish a fair bit at 147 if he was to struggle to make weight.. not saying that he would tho. But also with the south paws, Floyd seems to attack them more than orthodox fighters, this leads to him getting hit more as he leaves himself open. Im not sure if Floyd would choose to do this with PW as like you say, his work rate and size would be a huge factor. So maybe Floyd would just try to pot shot and show angles... Get in with a quick one two and then get back out again before Paul throws 10-12 punches back... I think it would be a high speed chess match.
I'd love to see how Floyd takes a huge combo to the chin. I know with SSM he took a good couple of right hands, but he clinched well, Id like to see how he responds to being hit 4-5 times without being able to clinch such a huge guy like PW.
Edit, P.S when I say PW stamina could deminish, Im not saying hes going to gas after 5 rounds, just he wouldnt be able to throw 100+ punches, more like 50 or so (still a large number I suppose)
I see your a PW fan... I like him no doubt hes a good fighter, lets discuss, one thing I notice with PW, he sometimes leans in with his shots when it turns into a war as his confidence grows... One thing I could see Floyd doing, similar to what he did to Hatton, give away the first few rounds on perpose (spell?) to get his confidence up and he (PW) will really start to let his hands go, after a round or two he'll get sloppy and throw wider shots enableing Floyd to counter on the inside. Easier said than done of corse.
Do you think this could be possible for Floyd to do or is PW too smart for this sh1t?
There is a huge difference between pressure from a smaller right handed fighter who's stamina wasn't there at 147,as compared to a taller left handed fighter with super stamina!!Look at what Judah & Corley,both left handed fighters were able to do early against Floyd!!I think it's more Floyd's conditioning,than him just figuring out people & adjusting!!He has great stamina & simply remains strong while others slow down!!Well the Punisher isn't slowing down & I just don't see Floyd handling that high workrate,pressure & southpaw stance coupled with the size difference!!
None you did was wrong.
Just these Floyd stans dip****s calling people names when they feel they're not on your side.
Don't give 'em attention and ****.
Ohh ok, sorry buddy, as you can tell, Im new here LOL... Bare with me, Im learning the ways of Boxn Scene!!! :boxing:
flomos are againts catchweights now im seeing a thread about floyd fighting paul williams in a fight at 147 where floyd is at an advantage, flomos :"it should be a great fight."
flomos want floyd to have an advantage in all his fights lol
wat a hepocritz
Like I said twice above, Im a Boxing fan, not a Flomo... I didnt say Id rather him fight PW at 147, I just said it would be a smart move as he'd have a bigger advantage than say 154, making a thread for this to be discussed by other boxing fans... Either contribute (spell??) of FO out of this thread and find another one...
^^^^^^^^^^ LMAO!
@ TheRealTruth : To the stans, whoever disagrees with them, or picks whoever Floyd fights, is automatically a pactard!
Hilarious!
Who did I call a Pactard? Enlighten me buddy...
Ohh,not to mention look at the problems Corley & Judah gave Floyd!!What do they have in common with the Punisher??They are also both southpaws!!But the Punisher is a much better southpaw with superb stamina!!yeah,there are intangibles here that fight fans shouldn't ignore,think about it!!
I see your a PW fan... I like him no doubt hes a good fighter, lets discuss, one thing I notice with PW, he sometimes leans in with his shots when it turns into a war as his confidence grows... One thing I could see Floyd doing, similar to what he did to Hatton, give away the first few rounds on perpose (spell?) to get his confidence up and he (PW) will really start to let his hands go, after a round or two he'll get sloppy and throw wider shots enableing Floyd to counter on the inside. Easier said than done of corse.
Do you think this could be possible for Floyd to do or is PW too smart for this sh1t?
Yup,what happened the second time??Yeah that's right,blasted!!But in case U haven't realized yet,Quintana is a southpaw,so is Martinez,most of his problems have come against lefties!!Floyd's righty stance & very low workrate up against a huge reach disadvantage & such prolific workrate gets dominated!!Floyd has avoided big,pressure fighters for a reason,it's fairly easy to counter fighters around ur size,but it's something entirely different to try that $hit on someone bigger,who U can't hurt who pressures,for 3 minutes every round & can match ur stamina,period!!
Ohh,not to mention look at the problems Corley & Judah gave Floyd!!What do they have in common with the Punisher??They are also both southpaws!!But the Punisher is a much better southpaw with superb stamina!!yeah,there are intangibles here that fight fans shouldn't ignore,think about it!!
Lmao...Floyd scared to death of Paul Williams hahahaha....The same Paul that lost to Carlos Q?? Carlos hit Paul at will, Martinez KNOCKED SNOT out of Pauls nose and the booger is still on my screen. This THREAD has to be from a pactard. Floyd will never be considered good until he faces undefeated hatton, Oscar at 154. He'll never be considered good because he's scared to face Mosley the real WW champ at 147 instead he fought MArquez. He'll never be good until he faces Paul Williams at 147 a man who has never been on PPV and IMO was getting his ass kicked by cintron.
Just say FLoyd will never be good and leave it at that because everyone you guys name, he fights them beats them then it. Oh hatton was to small, DLH was to old, mosley was inactive, then its gonna be Pac wasnt focused, Paul wasnt good enough, all ways an excuse... lol
Floyd scared of Paul lmao..
WTF was that? Im not a Pactard, im a boxing fan... Floyds my Fav fighter right now but im not a Flomo either, like I said, im a boxing fan... I didnt say he was scared of PW, I said some people SAY he's scared of him... Your talking Sh1t mate... no offence...
Carlos Quintana outboxed Williams and is similar size to Floyd but not even half the boxer.. Flyd could beat Williams but won't risk it
Yup,what happened the second time??Yeah that's right,blasted!!But in case U haven't realized yet,Quintana is a southpaw,so is Martinez,most of his problems have come against lefties!!Floyd's righty stance & very low workrate up against a huge reach disadvantage & such prolific workrate gets dominated!!Floyd has avoided big,pressure fighters for a reason,it's fairly easy to counter fighters around ur size,but it's something entirely different to try that $hit on someone bigger,who U can't hurt who pressures,for 3 minutes every round & can match ur stamina,period!!
FLOYD ARE YOU READING THIS! Fight Sergio Martinez if you dont want PAC. And at 154lb. Its now or never. We need to see you reach your full latent potential before you retire for good. Its now or never.
You arent a BH who will fight in your 40's so make the fight. Have a warm up with Khan in England of course first though.
Floyd needs to fight Mosley at 147 to be considered great, Pac needs to face clottey at 147 to be considered great. Pac needs to face Margarito @150 for the the 154 strap and is considered great. Floyd needs to hurry and face Martinez 154 a man who fights at middle weight, who just beat pavlik to be considered great.
The bar is apparently higher for FLoyd...I'd say he must be GREAT ALREADY!
Floyd cannot beat the Punisher people!!I almost find it funny that people really think that Floyd dodges 100 punches for 12 rounds straight & counters 88 inches of reach all night!!Margarito in 07 & any version of the Punisher is a dangerous fight for Floyd,which is why he's stayed clear of really big,high output pure pressure fighters!!Haha,ohhh man,Floyd dodges 100 punches a round,uuhhh!!