in case the Bradley fight don't happen I thought we would get Alexander vs Ortiz on Jan.28.
so why is Victor ortiz fighting on the Khan vs Maidana card? is GBP fukking up the fight or whats going on
I have also read that Richard Schaefer wants Victor Ortiz to fight John Murray next.
I too have heard this, and BOY what a mismatch it is. Ortiz will demoralize the Brit.
are you stupid enough to think that what Kotelnik was able to do...everyone will be able to do, as if Alexander can't make adjustments and learn from his mistakes...if SLOW A$$ Maidana was able to Drop Ortiz and make him quit, what in the hell make you think Alexander can't and Alexander is much faster then Maidana
so your little theory goes hand and hand on both sides, both are two young fighters and both are still improving...BUT Alexander just struggled in that fight with Kotelnik, he didn't get his ass kicked then QUIT to avoid getting KO'd like Ortiz did, beating a OLD Nate Campbell and Vivian Harris who was stopped in his previous fight before fighting Victor Ortiz that is not impressive
yes, what i noticed in the kotelnik fight is that alexander didnt punch hard enough to slow kotelnik down. that is very telling. devon's left hand is more like a jab or a scrape. his power is even less effective when hes fighting going backwards.
kotelnik mapped out the perfect blueprint to beat devon, unless, like u said, he can make adjustments. but what adjustments would those be? he cant magically improve the power in his left hand so hes better at impeding a boxer puncher from moving forward on him and pushing him back.
ortiz has the skill to follow that blueprint and then some cuz he's bigger, faster and and hits harder than kotelnik. on the flip side, u could use my argument and say that the blueprint for beating ortiz is out there, but the difference is that ortiz fights differently now, limits exchanges and alexander doesnt have the power to trade punches and test ortiz' mettle like maidana did.
did you think kotelnik had what it takes to beat alexander?
if kotelnik was able to push alexander back and stun him with clean shots, what do u think ortiz would do to alexander?
are you stupid enough to think that what Kotelnik was able to do...everyone will be able to do, as if Alexander can't make adjustments and learn from his mistakes...if SLOW A$$ Maidana was able to Drop Ortiz and make him quit, what in the hell make you think Alexander can't and Alexander is much faster then Maidana
so your little theory goes hand and hand on both sides, both are two young fighters and both are still improving...BUT Alexander just struggled in that fight with Kotelnik, he didn't get his ass kicked then QUIT to avoid getting KO'd like Ortiz did, beating a OLD Nate Campbell and Vivian Harris who was stopped in his previous fight before fighting Victor Ortiz that is not impressive
Do you believe Victor Ortiz has what it takes to beat Devon Alexander?
I don't.
did you think kotelnik had what it takes to beat alexander?
if kotelnik was able to push alexander back and stun him with clean shots, what do u think ortiz would do to alexander?
damn the would be the card of the year for sure definitely a PPV worthy event but I don't think that would be possible
Alexander vs Ortiz would be a good fight for HBO boxing after dark
Do you believe Victor Ortiz has what it takes to beat Devon Alexander?
I don't.
guzman's not a name. he's as much of a name as kotenik is.
stop bringing that dude up. HBO/GBP is trying to rebuild ortiz. putting him in with an undeserving runner like guzman would not be a good look. even if ortiz beats guzman, i doubt he'll look good against him becuz of joan's defensive ability.
if ortiz is on the khan/maidana undercard, it will be a undercard caliber opponent. its almost october already. kinda late to announce a huge match-up. so i would rule guys like bradley or alexander out.
kotelnik would be perfect.
You're right about that but I think we will know by the middle of next week...I think Koltelnik might be it if Don allowes it...
You're right though...if Ortiz knocks out Koltelnik he will prove the maidana fight was an off night and will scare everyone at 140...I think that fight would scare the division rather than having a name like guzman as a W
guzman's not a name. he's as much of a name as kotenik is.
stop bringing that dude up. HBO/GBP is trying to rebuild ortiz. putting him in with an undeserving runner like guzman would not be a good look. even if ortiz beats guzman, i doubt he'll look good against him becuz of joan's defensive ability.
if ortiz is on the khan/maidana undercard, it will be a undercard caliber opponent. its almost october already. kinda late to announce a huge match-up. so i would rule guys like bradley or alexander out.
kotelnik would be perfect.
HBO is putting major pressure for the Alexander-Bradley fight to happen so i'm pretty sure it'll happen... Ortiz will just have to wait it out for the winner of one of the two fights, or if he really wants to put some fear in the hearts of men he could try to knock out Kotelnik while he waitsYou're right though...if Ortiz knocks out Koltelnik he will prove the maidana fight was an off night and will scare everyone at 140...I think that fight would scare the division rather than having a name like guzman as a W
They're tryina make Ortiz a champ by this year so Devon is in line first...if not Devon I heard Koltelnik or Joan Guzman will be strong possibilities if they can't negociate with Don
HBO is putting major pressure for the Alexander-Bradley fight to happen so i'm pretty sure it'll happen... Ortiz will just have to wait it out for the winner of one of the two fights, or if he really wants to put some fear in the hearts of men he could try to knock out Kotelnik while he waits
Ortiz already had enough tuneup fights this year and I would think Alexander would try to get the Maidana vs Khan winner instead. either way I see Alexander fighting around Jan or February with or with out Bradley
if ortiz dont fight someone like kotelnik on the khan/maidana undercard, his next fight will be a tune up or vs some contending no-hoper like julio diaz or smth.
if ortiz fights on the khan/maidana card it'll amount to a tune up bout.
if the bradley fight falls through im sure they'll find a later date if alexander/ortiz work something out.
Ortiz already had enough tuneup fights this year and I would think Alexander would try to get the Maidana vs Khan winner instead. either way I see Alexander fighting around Jan or February with or with out Bradley
if ortiz fights on the khan/maidana card it'll amount to a tune up bout.
if the bradley fight falls through im sure they'll find a later date if alexander/ortiz work something out.
Maybe Devon Alexander will fight Victor Ortiz on the under of Khan vs Maidana if his fight with Bradley does not happen.
damn the would be the card of the year for sure definitely a PPV worthy event but I don't think that would be possible
Alexander vs Ortiz would be a good fight for HBO boxing after dark
No don king will fck it up.If ortiz fights alexander,Expect don king to ask
for options on ortiz.And gbp dont want that.
Another PROMOTER ****ing it up for us...it makes me sick