I'm not saying he'll win but I see a lot of people saying it'll be a one-sided beat down and I'm not so sure. I want Pacquiao to win but this is a very risky fight I feel.
Margarito has excellent timing and will go after Pac and hit anywhere he can, especially the body. We haven't seen Pac tested against an opponent like this. Mosley beat Margs using power shots and clinching. Pac doesn't hit as hard as Mosley and I'm not sure he'll clinch Margarito. I don't know if Pacquiao can stop Margarito in his tracks like Mosley did. He may have to hit and run which could get very tiring under Marg's pressure. This could look like the Margs-Cotto fight; If Margarito still has a great chin then Pac will have to be very careful and needs to be at his best.
Heres another view as well from Dwyer.
Dwyer bringing up the difference in power is very important but I dissagree with what he is saying. I agree that Margs has more power but he mentioned that Margs was able to take the hard hitting Cotto's punches and he kept coming forward. Well Pac was taking Cotto's punches and laughing at him, telling him to bring it (we all know that he was really hurting Pac though as he was bruised up after the fight and had a busted eardrum).
Another thing is, Pac catches guys with punches that they don't see. He dropped Cotto 3 times from punches he didn't see and Margs made him take a knee after several rounds of continuous punishment. If Margs comes in head first like he always does and gets into a slugfest with Pac, I feel he will get caught with an unseen punch as well and get dropped. Not to mention the sheer size difference will have margs brimming with confidence and if Pac can take his punches and laugh at him too as he did Cotto, I think Marg's will lose it and fight a sloppy, costly way.
I do agree with Dwyer that this fight will do big numbers both at the gate and on PPV sales. Just how many watch Mayweather fights to see him lose, the same thing wil happen here as a lot of people think Margs is just too big and strong for Pac and want to see him truly challenged or to lose.
Good points man. Thats true about Margs possibly not seeing the punches coming. He saw most of Cotto's punches so I'm not too sure how he'll react to Pac's speed. Marg is excellent at cutting off the ring but Pacquiao is proving that hes developing his boxing skills more and more so it'll be interesteing to see Pac counterpunch and get away.
Stop being such a fan boy.
Goodness.
Margarito looked better in the Garcia fight than Williams did in the Cintron fight. That is a fact, and not even up for debate.
Dwyer bringing up the difference in power is very important but I dissagree with what he is saying. I agree that Margs has more power but he mentioned that Margs was able to take the hard hitting Cotto's punches and he kept coming forward. Well Pac was taking Cotto's punches and laughing at him, telling him to bring it (we all know that he was really hurting Pac though as he was bruised up after the fight and had a busted eardrum).
Another thing is, Pac catches guys with punches that they don't see. He dropped Cotto 3 times from punches he didn't see and Margs made him take a knee after several rounds of continuous punishment. If Margs comes in head first like he always does and gets into a slugfest with Pac, I feel he will get caught with an unseen punch as well and get dropped. Not to mention the sheer size difference will have margs brimming with confidence and if Pac can take his punches and laugh at him too as he did Cotto, I think Marg's will lose it and fight a sloppy, costly way.
I do agree with Dwyer that this fight will do big numbers both at the gate and on PPV sales. Just how many watch Mayweather fights to see him lose, the same thing wil happen here as a lot of people think Margs is just too big and strong for Pac and want to see him truly challenged or to lose.
This fight would be no different from the Cotto and Hoya fights. When Pac's combinations begin landing on Marg's face and body, he'd wish he could do a Clottey defense. Thing is, Pac is more dangerous when being countered.
This is assuming Pac would have the same stamina as during his last fight with Clottey.
And that's what I'm curious about this fight.
I agree. With the new video of Margarito training, it seems that people are finally agreeing that he is dangerous and not an easy fight. If Pac can hurt him then the fight is over. If not, then anything can happen. Hopefully Pac stops him, especially for boxing's sake.
manny will have problems with anyone he can't ko looka t the clottey fight which was dominated by manny but if you look at manny's face and listen to manny that was not an easy fight for him and he even looked frustrated at times the marquez fights went the distance and look how those fights played out even miguel seem to be givin him problems for the 1st 6 rounds so yeah marg might give manny problems if manny can't knock him out but thats because manny does not look as great if his opponents are not hurt by him
:rofl: @ the people calling Garcia a bum.
Didn't Freddie Roach help TRAIN Garcia??
So Roach trains bums now??
Most idiots that are saying he looked like shit most likely didn't even see the fight. They are just going with some of the public so cause they are too scared to get criticized. Burner is the perfect example, he was all happy laughing on how Margarito WAS TOYING with Garcia but now he flips it around.
did you see the fight?he looked like a mediocre fighter thats it.he looked like a fighter that would get his ass whooped by the top fighters.since garcia was trained by roach he's a great fighter?he's nobody when he beats someone worth mentioning than he can get some respect he doesn't get props for training with freddie roach.who the fukk is roach?i could care less if someone gets koed unlike most of you so i didn't care that margo didn't get the knock out,he looked like **** because he aint **** like he always was, he's tough he's not skilled
You cant judge a guy by the way he looked 2-3 years ago.
He got owned by Shot Shane and couldnt get a journeyman out of there.I liked Margs just fine in his day, but I don't think Marg hits as hard as, say, Clottey. Especially now.
Pacquiao is too fast and smart. Marg's jab will not really be a factor in the fight; his long arms will only work against him, as he won't be able to get off on the inside. Plus. he will have to lean down to go to Pac's body, and he will definitely pay for it.
I don't see this fight lasting longer than six rounds. I will probably be attending and hope for a great war, but I just don't see it.
I never entirely counted Margarito out just for the fact his style only has defensive flaws. Offensively he's a machine.
But I never really thought about what that dude in the Video is saying. Those are good points. Especially about Margarito being able to do damage with both hands.
People can say what they want about his last fight against that Garcia guy but that fight was at 154. Margarito's never been all that dominant at 154. Plus Garcia has never been stopped or knocked down and Margarito put him down early I think.
I got a weird feeling this fight with Pacquiao is going to be a lot more interesting than people think. If Margarito has his jab working and his body punching working this is going to be a grueling fight.
I agree. With the new video of Margarito training, it seems that people are finally agreeing that he is dangerous and not an easy fight. If Pac can hurt him then the fight is over. If not, then anything can happen. Hopefully Pac stops him, especially for boxing's sake.
I never entirely counted Margarito out just for the fact his style only has defensive flaws. Offensively he's a machine.
But I never really thought about what that dude in the Video is saying. Those are good points. Especially about Margarito being able to do damage with both hands.
People can say what they want about his last fight against that Garcia guy but that fight was at 154. Margarito's never been all that dominant at 154. Plus Garcia has never been stopped or knocked down and Margarito put him down early I think.
I got a weird feeling this fight with Pacquiao is going to be a lot more interesting than people think. If Margarito has his jab working and his body punching working this is going to be a grueling fight.
Dwyer been ****ing up, I wouldn't take his word. But One thing I do agree is Height and reach could be a huge disadvantage for Pacquiao. Speed is going to be key in this fight, the punches you don't see coming could be lights out for Tony. But then again Margarito has something to prove to the world and he's hungry so we shall see. It will be interesting if Marg wins.
its hard 2 judge margarito as a fighter right now. is the real margarito the guy that ran thru cintron and cotto with back 2 back ko's??? or is he really the guy that looked like complete **** vs mosley and got ko'd in a 1 sided fight????? idk bro. the garcia scrap didnt help either. can blame the layoff but he still aint look like he did b4 the plaster situation.
Green K for not being ignorant and just bashing the guy :boxing:
I'll take your bet on that he won't win a single round.
That's just mean. Your gonna take candy from a baby?!?!
I don't think anyone is dumb enough to actually think that in all seriousness. But hey, if they are gonna give away points - I guess, take 'em.
and he looked a lot better than Williams who got shutout 4 rounds to 0 against sorry @ss Kermit Cintron.
the same williams that beat margarito?
even on williams worst day margarito would not look better than him
you say williams got shut out by cintron but i thought he got the decision or am i mistaken?
Because this people wants to downgrade pac's win in case he win on this fight, but the truth is this people knows that marg is a very dangerous fight for pac because he's so much bigger and stronger also add margarito's non stop pressure and he throws punches in bunches which i think will give pac a very hard fight.
that is played out how many times are they going to use that " lets fight at a catchweight but still he big I small"
wow....then they shouldn't even be fighting as this is a huge mismatch.....according to your prediction....
so who out there could challenge manny other than you know who?
I could think of a few names at that 154 division that I would favor against Manny at the 154 limit.
truth be told Margarito is not even a worthy contender at this point and he is not a top jr MW and most likely he is shot at this point.