"Although their first fight was contracted at the middleweight limit of 160 pounds, the rematch, which will be for Martinez's world title, is contracted at a catch weight of 157 pounds, which is what Williams weighed for the first fight; Martinez came in at 159."
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And this is what's wrong with Catchweights!! How can PW fight for the middleweight title at the 157 limit!! MOFOs just keep bending the rules.
I don't mind both boxers meeting at a catcheweight, but I hate that PW is setting lower limits to earn a MW title.
Why is the Organization not enforcing boxing rules. How do they earn sanctions??
I'm so sick of this sh!t.
Once again why not? Could someone please rationalize this into actual words instead of just saying they don't like because they just don't like it?
Its been explained to you a dozen times in depth yet you still refuse to comprehend.
"Although their first fight was contracted at the middleweight limit of 160 pounds, the rematch, which will be for Martinez's world title, is contracted at a catch weight of 157 pounds, which is what Williams weighed for the first fight; Martinez came in at 159."
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And this is what's wrong with Catchweights!! How can PW fight for the middleweight title at the 157 limit!! MOFOs just keep bending the rules.
I don't mind both boxers meeting at a catcheweight, but I hate that PW is setting lower limits to earn a MW title.
Why is the Organization not enforcing boxing rules. How do they earn sanctions??
I'm so sick of this sh!t.
157 is within the middleweight limit of 155-160... Both of these guys are small for Middleweight so it really doesnt matter...
Its different when the catchweight favors one guy because the other will have trouble or be at a disadvantage because of the weight...
Another catch weight joke, if williams wont fight at 160 then the belt should not be on the line
Once again why not? Could someone please rationalize this into actual words instead of just saying they don't like because they just don't like it?
Do you remember when was the last time there was a catchweight in the Heavyweight division?
Are you really comparing the HW division to the Middleweight division? Did you eat paint chips as a child?
Another catch weight joke, if williams wont fight at 160 then the belt should not be on the line, no excuses, ***** AZZZZ move imo, the last fight was at 160 and so should the rematch. I wonder if all the pac catch weight critics will be as loud now!! Cant wait to see
Ugh yeah! Making up rules off the top of your head doesn't really explain much.
Do you remember when was the last time there was a catchweight in the Heavyweight division?
Gentlemen: The point is that the challenger should never dictate limits on the Champion. The point is that no boxer should change the rules for their advantage.
If any boxer wants a Middleweight title, the limit is 160 and both fighters can come in at what ever weight always that it doesn't pass the limit of 160.
IMO if a challenger has to set lower limits to EARN a title, they should fight at a lower weight class.
IF Paul Can't fight at 160, then SIMPLY DON'T.
Fight at 154 and earn that title.
I have seen a lot of politics in boxing, just not politics made up by boxers.
I have NO respect for any of the coward catchweight beatches.
But there is no rules dictating what the weight limit has to be for championship fights and how is 157 pounds and advantage for either fighter when they both make 154 easily??????
Again crying over spilled milk!
Once again how is it cheating history? Please can someone give me a straight answer?
Gentlemen: The point is that the challenger should never dictate limits on the Champion. The point is that no boxer should change the rules for their advantage.
If any boxer wants a Middleweight title, the limit is 160 and both fighters can come in at what ever weight always that it doesn't pass the limit of 160.
IMO if a challenger has to set lower limits to EARN a title, they should fight at a lower weight class.
IF Paul Can't fight at 160, then SIMPLY DON'T.
Fight at 154 and earn that title.
I have seen a lot of politics in boxing, just not politics made up by boxers.
I have NO respect for any of the coward catchweight beatches.
Do you need anymore explaination pistol whip?
Gentlemen: The point is that the challenger should never dictate limits on the Champion. The point is that no boxer should change the rules for their advantage.
If any boxer wants a Middleweight title, the limit is 160 and both fighters can come in at what ever weight always that it doesn't pass the limit of 160.
IMO if a challenger has to set lower limits to EARN a title, they should fight at a lower weight class.
IF Paul Can't fight at 160, then SIMPLY DON'T.
Fight at 154 and earn that title.
I have seen a lot of politics in boxing, just not politics made up by boxers.
I have NO respect for any of the coward catchweight beatches.
Agreed, I don't understand why people are defending this catchweight for a title crap. Martinez won at 160 and he should defend at 160....simple as that.
Gentlemen: The point is that the challenger should never dictate limits on the Champion. The point is that no boxer should change the rules for their advantage.
If any boxer wants a Middleweight title, the limit is 160 and both fighters can come in at what ever weight always that it doesn't pass the limit of 160.
IMO if a challenger has to set lower limits to EARN a title, they should fight at a lower weight class.
IF Paul Can't fight at 160, then SIMPLY DON'T.
Fight at 154 and earn that title.
I have seen a lot of politics in boxing, just not politics made up by boxers.
I have NO respect for any of the coward catchweight beatches.
boxers are becoming such *****es nowadays...p will, smh. u that scared of losing that u'd try anything??? that makes him look bad.
i dont understand why these dudes are so intent on cheating history. but whatever...i guess its because some fans eat this kinda **** up.
Once again how is it cheating history? Please can someone give me a straight answer?
boxers are becoming such *****es nowadays...p will, smh. u that scared of losing that u'd try anything??? that makes him look bad.
i dont understand why these dudes are so intent on cheating history. but whatever...i guess its because some fans eat this kinda **** up.
In this case though, it is not to big of a deal and I don't even see why he wants the Cw because they are both roughly the same size and probably walk around weighing near the same.
If Pavlik was still MW champ and PWill wanted a 157 catch weight I could see your point because he has to cut alot of weight to make 160 but here it just doesn't matter at all and won't effect the out come of the fight in anyway.
Exactly people are just crying over spilled milk!
I don't mind that Paul Williams wants to fight at a weight of 157 or that the WBC belt is at stake since that in within the middleweight range. Whats not right is that he wants Sergio to do the same even though Middleweight is up to 160lbs.
I have seen this point been explain to you more than once.
Show that people learn what they want to learn and play dumb when they don't want to understand. It's kind of Selective Inteligence.
No it fuking hasn't! Vague comments that essentially just translate into "well i just think catchweights are wrong" don't explain any valid point whatsoever. If you can do better job explaining yourself then do so otherwise shut the fuk up!
I think its fair to ask for a valid explination rather than just giving me your unreasonable opinion.
Why not? I still have yet to actually have someone explain this to me why this is so bad?
I mean it cant be a bad thing just because you say it is, and i hate paul williams by the way but I see nothing wrong with this so long as both fighters agree to it.
I have seen this point been explain to you more than once.
Show that people learn what they want to learn and play dumb when they don't want to understand. It's kind of Selective Inteligence.