Since Floyd Mayweather Jr's reputation has recently declined to an all-time low, it seems fitting for this subject to be brought up again.
Many boxing fans felt that Mayweather stooped to an all-time low when he released a Ustream video in which he heavily criticized Pacquiao in a video laced with hatred, profanity and racist remarks. Mayweather's apology, which was released on the following day, did little to redeem the fighter in the public eye.
Mayweather's reputation then suffered all the more following his arrest, and allegations that were brought against him over recent incidents involving Jose Harris, the mother of three of his children.
These allegations came with actual accounts from witnesses and a police report that has now been made public. In other words, although Mayweather is innocent until proven guilty, there is plenty of evidence to support the possiblity that he has broken the law.
Now one might ponder the following questions:
1. Where are the accounts from witnesses against Pacquiao's alleged PED use?
The obvious answer is that there are none. It's been said a million times, but Pacquiao has never tested positive for any drug test.
Moreover, nobody from Pacquiao's inner circle has ever come forward to report that Pacquiao has dabbled with any performance enhancing substances.
2. Where is the evidence to support claims of Pacquiao's PED use?
The closest thing to "evidence" is Pacquiao's successful rise through the weight classes, and that is not acceptable evidence. Claims that Pacquiao has rapidly packed on a great deal of lean muscle in the past few years is utterly false.
In October of 2006, Pacquiao weighed in at 129 lbs for his third fight against Erik Morales. By the night of the fight, he had rehydrated to 144 lbs.
In March of 2010, Pacquiao weighed in at 145-3/4 against Joshua Clottey. Although he did not weigh in on fight night, it is estimated that is weight was 149-150 lbs.
That's an actual weight gain of only 6 lbs since late 2006.
Click here for an article that contains a more detailed assessment of Pacquiao's weight gains.
3. Why has Pacquiao's KO% gone up as he moved up to face bigger opponents?
The answer to the previous question tells the story. While he dehydrated 15 lbs for his weigh in against Morales, he only dehydrated approximately 4 lbs for his last fight.
Pacquiao has recently fought very near his walking around weight. While the dehydration / rehydration process used to weaken him, he now enters the ring without having to go through the grueling ritual that his larger opponents still practice.
Boxing fan Jarrod Essman of Paris, Arkansas feels that Mayweather's former allegations of PED use by Pacquiao don't hold water.
"I think that Floyd Mayweather Jr's lack of credibility leaves a huge hole in any claim or accusation," Essman said. "If he knew Pac was shy of blood testing, it's possible he did so out of desperation."
Simple solution. Both Manny and Floyd take the random OST up until the fight date and prove neither is using PED's. No excuses. If Manny or any other boxer accused Floyd and Floyd gave the same excuses and ran around saying "anytime" then changing dates, I'm superstitious, etc. even Floyd fans would be like "WTF"? Maybe Floyd's on that ish. So again. simple solution. They BOTH test up until the fight.
When the top guys in the WW were all ready to fight Floyd a few years ago, Floyd went on vacation.
Now Manny agreed to random drug testing and Floyd went on vacation again.
So are all the Floyd fans saying "WTF Floyd, you are at it again. People are right in that you keep on ducking"
Oh STFU. We all know xylocaine doesn't do NEARLY as much for an athlete as PEDs do. Please, just STFU. You've clearly have an agenda here. And not only that, but you cannot make a post without being irrational.
Funny post. So its about the degree of the drug that counts. I never knew that. So if it helps you to do just a bit better its OK. So that is why it was OK for Floyd to take drugs on fight night since it would only give him a bit more of an advantage.
Thank for clarifying that for all of us!
Pacquiao and Floyd are egotistical pricks. They're equally to blame.
Pac didn't agree to the tests until ten months after initially being asked. In Floyds mind that was plenty of time to let the PEDs leave his system.
10 months? Pac counter offered Floyd 24 days cut off with his 12 days cut off but denied. Let say Floyd agreed to the 24 days cut off. Did the 10 months period is plenty of time to clean Pac system for PED?
Floyd thinks there was a reason, and that's his choice. A-list boxers make all kinds of demands all the time; Cotto had to come in at 145 against Pac, and Oscar had to weight 147 the day of the fight and couldn't rehydrate. Now that somethings being demanded of Pacquiao his feelings got hurt and he woouldnt agree. Afraid of needles? Suuuree.
Both of these guys are egotistical *******s keeping you from seeing the fight you want. Stop defending them.
Or he had to make up a reason?
Last I checked, Floyd did say that Manny was an easy fight and easier than Marquez. Now why would he say that if he thought Manny was on something?
Because he didn't expect for Manny to call his bluff and actually say he wanted to fight him. But just as with Cotto and Margarito,
Floyd found a new angle to make up an new excuse.
Last I checked, they too were atop the heap of the welterweight division and they too, were in their physical prime and stringing up impressive performances.
I don't have to defend Manny. His actions as a fighter, speak for themselves. Floyds actions as a ducker, yell quite loud for him.
On the contrary, It's because I am a real fan that I don't care if one fight happens or not. People in the mainstream that dont watch boxing may be freaking out about it, but I don't really care. I'm way more excited for Martinez-Williams II and Marquez-Katsidis. People that only like Pacquiao or Mayweather, not boxing, are the ones that need this fight.
Floyd thinks there was a reason, and that's his choice. A-list boxers make all kinds of demands all the time; Cotto had to come in at 145 against Pac, and Oscar had to weight 147 the day of the fight and couldn't rehydrate. Now that somethings being demanded of Pacquiao his feelings got hurt and he woouldnt agree. Afraid of needles? Suuuree.
Both of these guys are egotistical *******s keeping you from seeing the fight you want. Stop defending them.
It's arum who thought that pac was afraid of needles not pac. Missunderstanding. Find me a video saying he was scared of needles.
Anyway, you call yourself a boxing fan we all know in a sport thereis always the 2 best athletes in a sport and we want to see them play it out. Kobevs Lebron, Lewis vs Alonzo etc.. In Boxing it's Pac vs Mayweather. Your not a real boxing fan if you don't to see the 2 best in the sport slugging it out.
Don't blame it on pac blame it on a diva named Floyd who is as clear as day is ducking coz he is scared to lose his '0'.. Your blaming it on both of them when it's clear pac has brought out all avenues to make it happen and the other one ended up having a vacation and beating up his children mother.
So if you really aren't a biased fan you can see that it\s Floyd who is a diva here. In the First place a proud man like Pac bent a little in the first negotiations knowing OST is not part of pro boxing. So who is a diva????
Your just a flomo who can't get enough of Floyd so you make it sound they are both to Blame to make you at peace with Floyd's dumbass ways.
why does Pacroid refuse to take a blood test ?
its apparently obvious Pacroid is on drugs. only a manila nuthugger would deny it.
The whole world know and believe that pac agreed to the full ost test except for the flomos who doesn't want to admit the truth, sorry flomos that is the sad truth u can't twist it anymore even floyd himself couldn't deny that pac agree to the full ost.
Nope, your just not really a boxing fan. a real boxing fan would want this fight to happen. This is our Ali-Frazier. Pac wanted this fight this nov the other went on vacation go figure.
On the contrary, It's because I am a real fan that I don't care if one fight happens or not. People in the mainstream that dont watch boxing may be freaking out about it, but I don't really care. I'm way more excited for Martinez-Williams II and Marquez-Katsidis. People that only like Pacquiao or Mayweather, not boxing, are the ones that need this fight.
There was no real reason to have extra testing in the first place. I don't see you demanding it for any other fights.
Floyd thinks there was a reason, and that's his choice. A-list boxers make all kinds of demands all the time; Cotto had to come in at 145 against Pac, and Oscar had to weight 147 the day of the fight and couldn't rehydrate. Now that somethings being demanded of Pacquiao his feelings got hurt and he woouldnt agree. Afraid of needles? Suuuree.
Both of these guys are egotistical *******s keeping you from seeing the fight you want. Stop defending them.
Although that's one way of looking at it, I think it has more to do with the quality of his recent opponents.
Pacquiao fought in a welterweight division against Cotto and Clottey. practically dominated and destroy them. i think the quality of opponents in a welterweight was pretty high. Cotto and Clottey would destroy JMM in a welterweight division. JMM will never beat Cotto in any weight they fight.
Pacquiao and Floyd are egotistical pricks. They're equally to blame.
Pac didn't agree to the tests until ten months after initially being asked. In Floyds mind that was plenty of time to let the PEDs leave his system.
Floyd didn't show much interest after Pacquiao changed his mind. He acts like he's too good to give the fans what they want.
It's equally both their faults. Anyone who says otherwise is just a nuthugger.
There was no real reason to have extra testing in the first place. I don't see you demanding it for any other fights.
Pacquiao and Floyd are egotistical pricks. They're equally to blame.
Pac didn't agree to the tests until ten months after initially being asked. In Floyds mind that was plenty of time to let the PEDs leave his system.
Floyd didn't show much interest after Pacquiao changed his mind. He acts like he's too good to give the fans what they want.
It's equally both their faults. Anyone who says otherwise is just a nuthugger.
Nope, your just not really a boxing fan. a real boxing fan would want this fight to happen. This is our Ali-Frazier. Pac wanted this fight this nov the other went on vacation go figure.
Pacquiao and Floyd are egotistical pricks. They're equally to blame.
Pac didn't agree to the tests until ten months after initially being asked. In Floyds mind that was plenty of time to let the PEDs leave his system.
Floyd didn't show much interest after Pacquiao changed his mind. He acts like he's too good to give the fans what they want.
It's equally both their faults. Anyone who says otherwise is just a nuthugger.
He did not agree to random full no cut off OST ya dumb fuk , sheeesh why are you kids so fukin dumb .
Link: Pac has accepted full OST. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utc1nhi-JcY
Its a totally different thing from Floyds perspective , why should he be paid to lose because he was cheated , this aint about the money they both are rich and both can make more than a man could ever need without fighting each other , its about life outside boxing when its all over and what your labeled , Manny agrees and loses to Floyd he will be remembered as the cheat that lost when he was clean .
Floyd thinks Manny is on PEDS thats why he stands firm on the testing , he does not want to fight him thinking the guy that he is swapping blows with is enhanced by drugs ,,,,
If this fight were to be on and Manny agrees to full random no cut off OST , which he should , if only to say Im an honorable sportsman as the testing is no big deal , lots and lots take it , so lets say he agrees and loses the fight , all his previous big wins when moving up will be under a black cloud ,,, now if Manny is juicing he will not agree to full random OST , so far he hasnt and its extremely supicious , and then to top things off , stay inhouse and nobody can ask you to be tested .
Link: Pac has accepted full OST. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utc1nhi-JcY
Pacquiao never agreed to full Olympic style testing. Stop making things up.
Link: Pac has accepted full OST. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utc1nhi-JcY
Just because Filipinos hate Floyd it doesn't mean that he is wrong about Manny taking steroids. This guy is moving up divisions, getting faster and stronger, with better cardio and more muscle mass. Doesn't take a genius to work out why Floyd is suspicious.
Link: Pac has accepted full OST. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utc1nhi-JcY
PAc agreed to the testing and backed out, and now all of a sudden agrees to testing. If it was so crass, why did he agree the so-called second time around? I'll tell you why. Pac and Arum saw Floyds check against Shane and agreed to the testing..only Floyd and his people weren't being negotiated with...
wow, very imaginative. At least you have accepted pac agreed to full ost. Thank God =):fing02:
still makes puckiao look suspicious...why agree now and not then?
Why should Pacquiao agree to Floyd ridiculous demand outside the normal boxing rules while he himself did not care on it in his last 40 fights? Did you know that Pac is P4P #1, 3 times fighter of the year, 4 times lineal champ, fighter of the decade and a champ at 147 have to agree with this low life racist woman assaulter, carpark master mind shooting incident coward Floyd?:chairshot
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