What's Vitali Klitschko's best win (that proves he's an ATG heavyweight)?

find i can name 1 corrie sanders, who some say is one of the hardest punchers of all time.... Tha's going in my sig, classic.

I wouldn't know all of that, because it's just your opinion, idiot. Tyson and Holyfield have beat noone and have losses to bums like Douglas or LHWs like Moorer, the only difference is they are american so they get excused for their losses. I'll do whatever I want BTW, if you don't like it you can do me a favour and go suck a dick. lol.. exposed. :bottle:

Holmes was coming off a disputed decision loss to Spinks. Many people thought he won the fight. Also, he ended up beating an undefeated Ray Mercer 4 years later. So he wasn't that much past his best in which Tyson doesn't get a lot of credit for the win. Spinks did great as a heavyweight. He out-boxed an undefeated Holmes to win a clear decision and dismantled Gerry Cooney within 5 rounds. Bowe might not have the greatest resume, but he's no doubt a great fighter. He clearly beat an undefeated and prime version of Holyfield. He was fast, powerful, and would have been a tough fight for any heavyweight in history. Douglas, in the Tyson fight, was an outstanding heavyweight. If he had been as dedicated as he was on that night throughout his whole career, who knows what he could've accomplished. But you wouldn't know any of this. You just search up BoxRec without watching actual fights. Do us all a favor. Go back to watching Vitali fight trash, overweight fighters, such as Mr. Arreola: http://www.sportaphile.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/chris-arreola-is-fat-300x210.jpg I wouldn't know all of that, because it's just your opinion, idiot. Tyson and Holyfield have beat noone and have losses to bums like Douglas or LHWs like Moorer, the only difference is they are american so they get excused for their losses. I'll do whatever I want BTW, if you don't like it you can do me a favour and go suck a dick.

Larry Holmes past his prime and Spinks a LHW. Riddick Bowe is a great win because he beat who? Mike Tyson who lost to bum Buster Douglas? Lol. Thanks for playing. It's easy to dissect fighter's resume, talk **** about them and try to make them look bad, we can keep this up all day. Holmes was coming off a disputed decision loss to Spinks. Many people thought he won the fight. Also, he ended up beating an undefeated Ray Mercer 4 years later. So he wasn't that much past his best in which Tyson doesn't get a lot of credit for the win. Spinks did great as a heavyweight. He out-boxed an undefeated Holmes to win a clear decision and dismantled Gerry Cooney within 5 rounds. Bowe might not have the greatest resume, but he's no doubt a great fighter. He clearly beat an undefeated and prime version of Holyfield. He was fast, powerful, and would have been a tough fight for any heavyweight in history. Douglas, in the Tyson fight, was an outstanding heavyweight. If he had been as dedicated as he was on that night throughout his whole career, who knows what he could've accomplished. But you wouldn't know any of this. You just search up BoxRec without watching actual fights. Do us all a favor. Go back to watching Vitali fight trash, overweight fighters, such as Mr. Arreola: http://www.sportaphile.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/chris-arreola-is-fat-300x210.jpg

the fight against lewis

this is actually a great question because it is a lot of people...well NO actually it is ONLY 2 people on this board that loves to hype of the Klitchko's, I respect them for what they are doing and it is not their fault that the Heavyweight division SUCKS but all this talk about them being "All Time Greats" is a bit much

Tyson: 91-second knockout of undefeated and hall of famer Michael Spinks or fourth round knockout of top 5 ATG heavyweight and hall of famer Larry Holmes Holyfield: Undefeated Riddick Bowe or knockout of 45-1 Mike Tyson Take your pick. Larry Holmes past his prime and Spinks a LHW. Riddick Bowe is a great win because he beat who? Mike Tyson who lost to bum Buster Douglas? Lol. Thanks for playing. It's easy to dissect fighter's resume, talk **** about them and try to make them look bad, we can keep this up all day.

What is Tyson's win? What's Holyfield's win? Tyson: 91-second knockout of undefeated and hall of famer Michael Spinks or fourth round knockout of top 5 ATG heavyweight and hall of famer Larry Holmes Holyfield: Undefeated Riddick Bowe or knockout of 45-1 Mike Tyson Take your pick.

Pick one George Foreman Larry Holmes Mike Tyson Buster Douglas Riddick Bowe Lennox Lewis (Draw) ^^^Half of those guys are just as big as the Klitschkos. Evander would beat both brothers. Your trolling is very easy to dismantle. Foreman and Holmes were 40+, beating them means nothing, as it would mean nothing if Wlad destroyed Holyfield nowadays, unless you think Ibragimov is great too by schooling Holyfield, and so Wlad is great too by virtue of beating Ibragimov? Yeah, didn't think so, because in your little hater mind you would never accept anything that gives Wlad credit :lol1: Buster Douglas who? What was Mike Tyson's best win, again? Oh yeah, that's right, so he doesn't count either. Riddick Bowe beat who? Lennox Lewis got robbed against Hoyfield, and since we have established that Holyfield and Tyson are not all time greats either because they have no great wins, Lennox doesn't have great wins either. Actually, no fighter is an ATG, because if to be an ATG you have to beat an ATG, there could have never been an ATG in the first place, case closed. Thanks for playing.

What's Holyfield's win? Pick one George Foreman Larry Holmes Mike Tyson Buster Douglas Riddick Bowe Lennox Lewis (Draw) ^^^Half of those guys are just as big as the Klitschkos. Evander would beat both brothers.

What's the win that proves he's an all-time great heavyweight? What is Tyson's win? What's Holyfield's win?

Dude, Tyson was a shell of his former self. Everyone knew Lewis would win that one, the only reason why it was a huge fight is because it was Tyson and everyone knew he still had a punchers chance. That fight did not prove Lewis was at his peak no matter what he said. That Tyson win was not as impressive as you thinkIn case you don't remember, Lewis came in around 10 pounds over the weight he fought Tyson when he stepped in there against Vitali. He obviously was not in peak condition. At that point in his career he was having a hard time getting motivated to come into the ring in great shape like he used to. Its harder to train when you are that old and not full of energy. His lack of motivation proved true in the first Rohman(sp?) fight and his fight against Vitali. Vitali fought hard and with a lot of hart, I'm not trying to take anything from him but he did not meet Lewis at his best. Agreed. Tyson was completely shot to **** when he fought Lewis, that's not taking anything away from Lewis, as he done he had to do! Lewis didn't even have to be at his best to beat the shell of him former self Tyson!. Vitali was far from facing prime Lewis, he looked horrible vs Vitali, yet still destroyed Vitali to a pulp.

The only way Vitali becomes ATG HW is because of dominance but that's about it. The last great heavyweight Vitali fought was an old Lewis who TKO'd him.

Lennox was not in great shape. Here are some comments that were made during and after the fight. Even Vitali commented on Lennox being out of shape. Larry Merchant said in the 4th round - that Lennox looks very tired and we never saw him this tired before. Foreman said in the 3rd - if you ask me Lennox is not in shape that ... he entered the fight not in good shape. Lampley in 5th round - Lennox doesn't look like he can make it to the finish line just on sheer energy/ Lampley in 6th round - Lennox can hardly stand up not because of Vitali's punches but from his own exhaustion... Post fight - Larry Merchant said - you looked tired ... Lennox said I was starting to get my second wind Post fight - Vitali said - Lennox Lewis doesn't have good condition and came in very heavy .... my strategy was to make him tired ^^^Good Post. Lennox has never been that fat in his entire career and even Vitali saw this and tried to use it to an advantage. The two facts we can take from this fight: It was Vitali at his best: Much more experienced than when he quit against Byrd, and much stronger and faster than when he fought #20 ranked Sosnoski. He was absolute Physical/mental PRIME. It was Lennox at his worst. Oldest, fattest, most inactive and lethargic Lennox we ever saw. He had fought less than 12 rounds in 2 years, and was highly complacent off his Tyson win. If Lennox at his worst can massacre Vitali like that, the 97-98 Lennox wins by homicide. http://www.ioffer.com/img/item/610/051/91/9IXMUWJv1WbYAqs.jpg

Lewis wasn't "way over the hill" when he got dominated by Vitali you lying retards. Lewis was coming off the KO win over Tyson. In the Lewis/Tyson post fight interview Lewis said "I'm at the peak of my powers, I'm like fine wine, I get better with age". In an interview right before the Vitali fight, Lewis said he wanted to keep fighting for a few more years...Vitali dominated Lewis and scared him into retirement. That's a fact. Dude, Tyson was a shell of his former self. Everyone knew Lewis would win that one, the only reason why it was a huge fight is because it was Tyson and everyone knew he still had a punchers chance. That fight did not prove Lewis was at his peak no matter what he said. That Tyson win was not as impressive as you thinkIn case you don't remember, Lewis came in around 10 pounds over the weight he fought Tyson when he stepped in there against Vitali. He obviously was not in peak condition. At that point in his career he was having a hard time getting motivated to come into the ring in great shape like he used to. Its harder to train when you are that old and not full of energy. His lack of motivation proved true in the first Rohman(sp?) fight and his fight against Vitali. Vitali fought hard and with a lot of hart, I'm not trying to take anything from him but he did not meet Lewis at his best.

Lewis wasn't "way over the hill" when he got dominated by Vitali you lying retards. Lewis was coming off the KO win over Tyson. In the Lewis/Tyson post fight interview Lewis said "I'm at the peak of my powers, I'm like fine wine, I get better with age". In an interview right before the Vitali fight, Lewis said he wanted to keep fighting for a few more years...Vitali dominated Lewis and scared him into retirement. That's a fact. Lennox was not in great shape. Here are some comments that were made during and after the fight. Even Vitali commented on Lennox being out of shape. Larry Merchant said in the 4th round - that Lennox looks very tired and we never saw him this tired before. Foreman said in the 3rd - if you ask me Lennox is not in shape that ... he entered the fight not in good shape. Lampley in 5th round - Lennox doesn't look like he can make it to the finish line just on sheer energy/ Lampley in 6th round - Lennox can hardly stand up not because of Vitali's punches but from his own exhaustion... Post fight - Larry Merchant said - you looked tired ... Lennox said I was starting to get my second wind Post fight - Vitali said - Lennox Lewis doesn't have good condition and came in very heavy .... my strategy was to make him tired Post fight - Vitali said - Lennox expected to knock me in 5 but he wasn't in condition Post Fight - Foreman and Lampley - Agree that if Lennox Lewis comes in that bad a shape then Roy Jones Jr has a good chance against Lewis if they ever fight.

clinching is an important asppect of boxing, if you dont like it, dont watch it its not that your making observations, is that your making excuses for wlad winning, trying to discredit his win..... Wrong again. I even said that you can't blame Vlad for being aloud to do what he did..... Vlad and his corner had a game plan and implemented it smartly. As for clinching, one can do just so much. Some refs would warn then deduct a point if it continued.

.Vitali dominated Lewis and scared him into retirement. That's a fact. Ok then why was Vitali's eyeball almost hanging out of his skull? I'm asking. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

no... you came here to make excuses for wlad winning.......... He won .... there I said it .... you think I care that Vlad beat Peters? But you can't comment without calling people with an opinion a hater..... that appears to be a FACT!

You're a moron and a liar. Peter was doing the holding, he was clinching to survive. And Peter was in great shape. Stop making up lies to try and discredit Wlad. People like you need to read. I stated that even if Peters did more or less, that was not the point. His only chance was to do some inside fighting but that was not available due to the holding. Please show me all the chances that Peter's had to do inside fighting and I will change my mind. Until then, you can't call me a liar!