Love the dudes raw gifts of speed, power in both hands,and a killer instinct. Combos out of this world are very entertaining. But he keeps his damn hands down.... on purpose! He needs a new trainer who commands that he adjust his hands down problem. I want him to beat Juan ma but his chances are much slimmer now, after viewing the Salido fight. Those improvements of defense are crucial for his reign on top of the division. Juan ma's power will not be as forgiving.
The truth is I think we have another knucklehead on our hands. Another raw, physically gifted fighter that's talent is endless but....... relies to much on his physical ability instead of a higher technique which should be developed and used in the square circle. Also he seems like he lacks self control, come on, hitting dude with a superman punch after the bell (was cool looking though) and then later striking him while he was in a fetal position on the ropes. Not acceptable and I believe that lack of self discipline will soon separate him from his senses and his potential clutch as a lineal champion.
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I can see where one would make that comparison but Gamboa has his own style. People just look and say speed/punches in bunches and automatically make comparisons to pacquiao. They're different fighters and have different styles. You see it in their subtleties. Butlike I said before he's just bored. I believe that once he faces competition of his caliber he will take it seriously and be on point in all aspects. I mean do u have to take a hammer to an ant? Sure he couldve possibly disposed of him earlier or taken the fight more seriously in terms of discipline but it was clearly evident that he could do whatever he wanted and was bored, some say comfortable I say boredom. My statement, my opinion, won't be changed.
I don't see it how most of you see it, I believe he has the technique and defense needed but he just gets soo bored that he just wants to have fun. He seems bored in the ring. Sure it can be called a lack of discipline but it's not a lack of defense. I'm not saying he has this hidden defensive power I'm just saying he gets bored in the ring so he just does what he wants. It's not that he lacks the skill or technique, it's obviously just boredom. In my eyes anyway. My statement, my opinion, won't be changed.
That's how I see it too.
And wtf with Kellerman comparing him to Pacquiao? Nothing alike at all. They'll never be alike and honestly, I don't want him to be.
I don't see it how most of you see it, I believe he has the technique and defense needed but he just gets soo bored that he just wants to have fun. He seems bored in the ring. Sure it can be called a lack of discipline but it's not a lack of defense. I'm not saying he has this hidden defensive power I'm just saying he gets bored in the ring so he just does what he wants. It's not that he lacks the skill or technique, it's obviously just boredom. In my eyes anyway. My statement, my opinion, won't be changed.
Gamboa's fine. Salido was never a threat in the fight. Gamboa took him serious (hands high) for two rounds then figured he can get away with whatever he wanted. Only reason it took so long to knock him out/down was cus Salido has a monster chin.
Gamboa is head and shoulders above everyone at 126.
Why do people care? He's exciting. Sure if he wanted to he could dance around the ring and potshot all night and never get hit, but that would be incredibly boring. Gamboa understands something that a lot of fighters dont, its not just about winning, but its about putting on an entertaining performance. He's going to get a lot of money just for the fact that he adds drama and excitement. He's a fighter at heart, and going for a drastic change now would prob hurt him more then help him.
I care because I want to see him rise to his highest potential and not blow it on a series of poor habits. He can still be exciting and even more efficient if he worked behind the jab and kept his hands up.
Why do people care? He's exciting. Sure if he wanted to he could dance around the ring and potshot all night and never get hit, but that would be incredibly boring. Gamboa understands something that a lot of fighters dont, its not just about winning, but its about putting on an entertaining performance. He's going to get a lot of money just for the fact that he adds drama and excitement. He's a fighter at heart, and going for a drastic change now would prob hurt him more then help him.
To those who keep think we're being hard or down on Gamboa....
It's called Constructive Criticism, people!
First off, Gamboa is a phenomenally fast-handed puncher with knockout power.....But Gamboa also has no defense, and has not learned to straddle the technical boxing with brutish slugging just yet. He is a work in progress, someone who would much benefit from a world-class trainer’s tutelage. I would not be surprised to see him taken in by someone like Emanual Steward or Freddie Roach as he moves up to take on the bigger names.
Unfortunately, It will likely happen after he suffers his first loss, which seems almost inevitable at this juncture.
Salido, while a terrific fighter, is not the type of fighter you would expect to give Gamboa such fits from doing basically nothing other than firing back a slow counter after getting hit hard himself. Taking nothing away from Orlando, who fought his fight as good as he could fight it, but I am fairly confident in saying that a well-tuned, better-trained Gamboa would have made short work out of a man of Orlando’s caliber.
Orlando came into the fight heavy, and thus could not compete for the IBF title. Turns out it didn’t matter, as Gamboa won the decision. But it took getting knocked down for the fifth time (yes, it was a knockdown, not a slip, I’ve replayed it enough times to see that it was Salido’s hook that disoriented Gamboa during his own counter, not a wet floor) in order for Gamboa to win the match.
That lack of discipline shows yet another example of his rough-around-the-edges status right now. He shows so much promise, can be as exciting as an elite fighter, but not right now. He leaves his hands at his hips after throwing combinations like he’s some sort of king. He is very hittable to anyone with a smidgen of speed and accuracy. He is hyper to a fault, and needs to settle into his punches, set up his power game, and learn a thing or two about defense.
Another fighter that may want to take notes on this....Andre Berto!
Does anyone know how habits are formed in boxing or any sport for that matter? They are formed by doing the same thing over and over again and getting away with it. You get away with it so much that you forgot how huge of a flaw it is and how much a great opponent can capitlize off of it.
This is why, in other sports, even against an inferior opponent, and coach is still barking out instruction whether a player/team is up by a wide margin and are completely dominating.
You just can't keep making mistakes and then correct them in a huge fight, which is why Gamboa needs to get this sh1t fixed ASAP. I say this because people say that it's because his opponent is inferior or that he is just clowning around and not taking the fight as serious as he should.
I have seen this same story over and over again, and what's gonna happen is he is gonna get in the ring with an elite fighter and realize just how hard it is to break this habits he has developed over the years.
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If that was anywhere near a prime version of Salido like the one who fought Guerrero or Marquez years ago, I would've had no problem picking him to win.
Gamboa is not what you think he is. The minute he steps up to anyone decent with some youth and some pop, he's done.
Another hbo hypejob. Don't fight me on this either, I am the best at picking out hbo hypejobs. I'm never wrong.
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I watched both fights and it would've been the exact same end result.
What's a hype job to you?
Gamboa will be fighting other Top 10 P4P eligible, so a loss is almost a given at some point. If he does lose it won't be by Lopez, who fits your criteria of young with some pop.
At the very least, Gamboa will be among the top 3 in his division for years to come all the way up to 135.
And if he learns how to counter punch and setup his offense better instead of getting caught in exchanges, he will be top 5 P4P for years to come.
ill bring it up, he needs to set his combos up with the jab. Just like roy never used the jab to set anything up, but roy was much more crafty in my opinion.
Thing is, anyone is bound to get hit when they stand and trade as he did with Salido. Standing and trading with much stronger guys will no doubt test his chin.
You have brought up one of my points. The man comes in too wild and squared up to be deserving of all the hype he has garnered. You think those mistakes will go unforgiven against a guy like Juan Manuel Lopez?! Nobody has even brought up his God-awful jab...
I DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE. The man squares himself up way too much when he throws. On top of that, his hooks are often wide and wild. Don't even get me started on his defense. When you have that much of a speed advantage over a guy, like he did against Salido, you shouldn't be getting hit! PERIOD!
Thing is, anyone is bound to get hit when they stand and trade as he did with Salido. Standing and trading with much stronger guys will no doubt test his chin.
Gamboa can't and won't evole, after fight interview, dispiite and the taunting and squarig up in the ring, he set aside his differences, to say he was his toughtest opponent to date.
I DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE. The man squares himself up way too much when he throws. On top of that, his hooks are often wide and wild. Don't even get me started on his defense. When you have that much of a speed advantage over a guy, like he did against Salido, you shouldn't be getting hit! PERIOD!
The only thing that impresses me is his speed/quickness and combinations. Any fighter who keeps his hand down will eventually run into someone who'll expose that. Though Gamboa has great attributes and skill, fighting with his hands down is going to get him beat.
every fighter fails. just cause he's got alot of tools doesn't mean he's going reach his full potential. this what separates legitimately great fighters from good and ok fighters.
He is getting knocked out soon. Victor Cayo did the same against Maidana and got stopped and i see the same with Gamboa unless someone gets that defence sorted.
There were several times you could hear his corner yelling to keep his hands up. His keeping his hands at his sides indicated he didn't feel threatened by Salido's offense. His reflexes and movement were able to keep from being hit solidly enough to put him in danger.
He does need to tighten it up for the likes of Juanma and much more solid opposition.