why manny is not overrated.

it just baffles me on how angry they are...we have Floyd haters on this site, but they at least use some kind of humor from time to time...flomos on the other hand, are immediately defensive when they enter threads the thread could be about PAC drinking water and you'll find a flomo in that thread hating on water floyds actions always embarrased them but they cannot hate on floyd lest theyll lose their reason for existence. they so much identified themselves with floyd that to hate him is to hate themselves. so they instead channel their anger on the perceived enemies of floyd. they wear the tag flomos as their second skin.

you know when arum puts a deadline on floyd till midnight that day.....im so exited like i will have a brand new car tomorrow! unfortunately we all failed.....hope to see them fight next year but the chances are very slim right now dude! oh that deadline was the problem... I knew when they started that it would fall through... Floyd is too proud to bow to a deadline. The problem is both fighters are too proud to make concessions and both want the "mental advantage".. Man its frustrating to people that just want to see them fight.

He is not overrated. He is given credit people think he deserves. FOTD is what people think he is worth. He is like the beacon of light that everyone looks up to. Its not that other boxers arent great, ie cotto, jmm. Its just Pac is phenomenal. Khan looks up to Pac, and there arent many boxers Khan would bow and curtsey to, and Khan is a decent fighter now.He is like the beacon of light that everyone looks up to. WOW, nut gobbling at its finest...

Pac did much much better to their common opponents Oscar and Hatton. Pac beat Cotto who beat the much younger version of Mosley not the grandpa version fought by Floyd. Plus Floyd accomplishments were subpar compared to Pac. Oscar and Hatton were...."fresher" against Floyd. How much fresher really is up for debate. and Triangle theories? really? Well Cotto beat Mosley but got destroyed by Margarito..but Marg got decapitated by Mosley. There's a triangle theory for u.. exed out

I had Pac rated higher than Floyd until Floyd fought SSM. I know people say SSM was old..shot, ect. But I really do give Floyd alot of credit for that fight.. But Pac is right up there with Floyd Pac did much much better to their common opponents Oscar and Hatton. Pac beat Cotto who beat the much younger version of Mosley not the grandpa version fought by Floyd. Plus Floyd accomplishments were subpar compared to Pac.

maybe the only defining moment for both of them is to fight each other and see who ever comes victorious You and me both want that to happen brother... I can't describe to you how disappointed i've been over this last year that "The Fight" kept falling through So are these nutritional, science training and new techniques already available when Pac started Pro Boxing at the age of 16? A poor starving kid sleeping at cardbox in the streets of Manila doing the advanced nutrition, science training and techniques? WTF! No, thats not what I was saying. When he was a starving kid, he was malnourished and below his natural weight.. then he gradually started to fill out as he went.. but everything 140+ and even to a lesser extent the 130's was thanks largely in part to advances in nutrition and training science that he took advantage of. Resources that weren't available to fighters of bygone eras.

Pac is a great fighter.. but two things... its Point. Blank. Period... And this whole 7 weight classes thing.. they have so many titles now compared to the good old days.. heck they invented some titles just for Pac.. I don't think that stands up to the test of time. Its.....inflated somehow. Also Pac can take advantage of recent advancement in nutritional and training science and techniques that simply weren't available in the older eras. So are these nutritional, science training and new techniques already available when Pac started Pro Boxing at the age of 16? A poor starving kid sleeping at cardbox in the streets of Manila doing the advanced nutrition, science training and techniques? WTF!

good point also....personally i think he is below those guys you mentioned. but..... i put him top 10 and above floyd for what he did to boxing today. I had Pac rated higher than Floyd until Floyd fought SSM. I know people say SSM was old..shot, ect. But I really do give Floyd alot of credit for that fight.. But Pac is right up there with Floyd

i give you point there...but pac came from 3rd world country....why does those who came from rich country didnt take also this advance method that you say pac took? its a good point.. He did come from a poor environment. But to get where he is now, he needed world class nutrition and training. I'm not saying Pac isn't one of the best of our era. He is. My sticking point is when people put him above ATG's like SRR and Ali off the strength of this multiple weight class/titles argument.. When people say that, he is in fact being overrated.

He came up 7 WEIGHT CLASSES. He is dominating opponents that are supposed to beat him. He is the first boxer in history to do this. Not 4,5,6, but 7 weight classes. Most boxers go up 2 weight classes and get beat up. He is a certified monster. Period. Point. Blank. Pac is a great fighter.. but two things... its Point. Blank. Period... And this whole 7 weight classes thing.. they have so many titles now compared to the good old days.. heck they invented some titles just for Pac.. I don't think that stands up to the test of time. Its.....inflated somehow. Also Pac can take advantage of recent advancement in nutritional and training science and techniques that simply weren't available in the older eras.

cant wait to hear you tards excuses after floyd beats pacs ass and kos him Another fantasy coulda woulda brought to you by a flomo. Did Floyd already back from vacation?

see what i mean? always angry they are really angry at floyd for being a bitch. they divert their hate to something else....

He came up 7 WEIGHT CLASSES. He is dominating opponents that are supposed to beat him. He is the first boxer in history to do this. Not 4,5,6, but 7 weight classes. Most boxers go up 2 weight classes and get beat up. He is a certified monster. Period. Point. Blank. Any top p4p fighter will have their fanboys who overrate them severely and haters who will grossly underrate them. Pac gets all the credit he deserves, in my opinion. But it could go the other way as well depending on who you're talking to.

Knowing the Oscar situation later, he wasnt supposed to beat Pac. I didnt give Cotto much of a chance against Pac, Clottey is Clottey. Marquez arguably beat him both times. Morales beat him. 2nd and 3rd Morales fight, we know Morales condition for those fights. I didnt give Hatton a chance either, so what have we, I think what we have and Roach has confirmed this in his description of these fighters leading up to the fights, is that Manny's wins are very overhyped because these fighters were either flawed or were under flawed circumstances. Manny really needs Floyd. You don't give Manny any credit beating those very good fighters of their own tells you something but you can't grasp the idea why a former flyweight champ able to do it? Did you know that 90% of those good champ of particular weight when he move up one division above got beaten easily? Another 6% able to win 2 weight classes and 2% able to win 3-5 weight but someone like Pac who is the only man in boxing history holding those record simultaneously in my SIGNATURE overrated? Your really stupid , dumb and hater aren't you?

Knowing the Oscar situation later, he wasnt supposed to beat Pac. I didnt give Cotto much of a chance against Pac, Clottey is Clottey. Marquez arguably beat him both times. Morales beat him. 2nd and 3rd Morales fight, we know Morales condition for those fights. I didnt give Hatton a chance either, so what have we, I think what we have and Roach has confirmed this in his description of these fighters leading up to the fights, is that Manny's wins are very overhyped because these fighters were either flawed or were under flawed circumstances. Manny really needs Floyd. Zab Judah would have done the same if given the chance according to you right?

why are flomos always so angry? I don't know why they're mad. I give credit when credit is due. The Manny fans on here make it seem like Manny is the greatest because he won in 7 divisions. I didn't see them say the same **** they're saying about Manny, when Oscar won his 6th belt in a division. Manny is now finally fighting at his natural weight. What if Oscar moves up and beats a tomato can?

Knowing the Oscar situation later, he wasnt supposed to beat Pac. I didnt give Cotto much of a chance against Pac, Clottey is Clottey. Marquez arguably beat him both times. Morales beat him. 2nd and 3rd Morales fight, we know Morales condition for those fights. I didnt give Hatton a chance either, so what have we, I think what we have and Roach has confirmed this in his description of these fighters leading up to the fights, is that Manny's wins are very overhyped because these fighters were either flawed or were under flawed circumstances. Manny really needs Floyd. The fact that you dont think COtto had a chance against Pac is sure saying something about how great Pac is. Not many boxers could face Cotto and be certified favourite and people give Cotto no chance. That is sure giving Pac credit when i m not sure you intended to. Same for Hatton. Not too many wouldnt give hatton a chance at 140 against anyone. So the fact that you didnt think Hatton had a chance against Pac, Pac will take that as a compliment. So Pac had an off night against Morales and wasnt in his prime. Even the greatest boxers ever have had bad nights ie SRR against Turpin. It happens. Pac was robbed of a win in the first fight also. Also dont listen to Roach and take what he says literally too much. He is only saying those weakness of others fighters will be punished by Pac, because of how great Pac is. Not everyone could capitalize like Roach expected pac to. Pac still had to produce the goods on the night. Haters trying real hard, but look pathetic in the process. I agree. What is the scorpion king in your avatar clapping and shaking his head at?

I'd be angry with Morales if he retired before he fought Barrera and then went on vacation when a Manny fight became available. Think about that. Erik Morales fought Manny Pacquiao and the self proclaimed greatest boxer ever, hasn't. Anger management from a guy who put me on ignore over discussing boxers in their "early 30's" vs their "late 30's" yet doesn't put people on ignore who call him a homo or worse. WHo is really angry Johnny boy.

let's take Big Dunn for example there was a thread where PAC was dedicating the fight in honor of Arum's son some poster said PAC was classy (nothing more) and Dunn replies with why so angy? I have actually met floyd. Surprisingly he was real cool. This was 2003 well before all this "Money May" sh1t. I was just having fun. You know when it comes to the NSB all posts lead to Big Dunn. I'm better than makvelli. I'm better than earner 0919. Yup I said it.

Everytime somebody get hit with facts they are upset. or better yet*Enter the Usual homo sh1t people post on here*. As for the thread He is not Overrated. Just certain sh1t he gets credit for is bullsh1t. Still a great fighter dispite that. Heres another one, "the only small guys Floyd fought were Hatton and JMM".