There's no excuse for the Williams-Martinez rematch not being finalized by now.

Come on Paul. You are hurting the promotion for this fight. The longer you wait to man up, the less money this fight is gonna generate. I have a hard time believing that the promotion of this fight will be successful with less or more give or take two months to go. What's the exact date again? Anyway, Williams is looking pretty bad in my view by dragging his feet. Blame Williams.............

Witness protection program. It's suited for Paul Williams.

HBO announced this fight on their schedule. And yet we haven't heard anything about it on here. I'm confused I admit. Me too. I was about to post about this somewhere.

Yay.. I guess it's official!!!!! Damn November is gonna be Fire!!!!

HBO announced this fight on their schedule. And yet we haven't heard anything about it on here. I'm confused I admit.

Martinez as well.^^^^^^^^^^^^

ANGULO'S TEAM CRITICIZED HIM FOR TURNING DOWN THE FIGHT. you seem to ignore that fact. angulo will fight now for less money and for no belts. dumb move if martinez is stalling the fight too, then why is HBO JUST pressuring pwill? that alone lets you see who's stalling it They didnt pressure anything. Pauls trainer said they want both guys. HBO said its Martinez or Dzizniruk because Floyd and Pac are off the table. People are just so quick to shyt on Paul instead of stepping back and looking at it unbiasedly.

angulo's team said he was a moron for turning down that fight, but YOU say it was the right move? ok :lol1: i dunno what he said, but i know what he's doing. actions speak louder than words Since when does a Mexican fighter gets little to none of the gate ..........in Cali of all places? Yeah and so far actions are that Martinez AND Paul havent signed ANYTHING.

What you are saying doesn't mean jack shit and I'll tell you why. HBO wants this rematch to happen for a reason. The longer Williams takes to sign this fight like I said before, the less money it's gonna draw anyway due to a shitty promotion and yet you keep defending him. The hell are you talking about? Martinez has NOT signed anything. Nothing. "The longer Paul takes"? Um wheres Martinez's signature? So this fight making HBO money means nothing to them? Promotion or not this is a hardcore fan fight not a casual fight. Maybe HBO is realizing that. NO ONE knows who either guy is.

same people who wanted to see them the first time, and then some if the issue was about this fight not being a big enough draw, HBO would've scrapped it already. either martinez or pwill are holding it up, and i honestly doubt that martinez is the one responsible (especially after the angulo offer) wasn't HBO pressuring pwill to take on either martinez or sergei? Why would you doubt it after the Angulo offer? Angulo was right for turning it down. Martinez camp failed to mention that Angulo was receiving little to none of the gate even though hes a Mexican fighter and the fight wouldve been in Cali. So if something shady is going on Martinez's side again it wouldnt shock me. Hes soon to be 36 years old and is trying to cash in himself a lot of his fan boys seem to forget that,. Williams wants to fight both guys. Once a Pac or Floyd fight was gone they said we'll only match Sergei or Martinez.

They didnt fight in the main arena though. They fought in front of 3,000 people. Neither one of them are draws all of a sudden since that fight. What you are saying doesn't mean jack shit and I'll tell you why. HBO wants this rematch to happen for a reason. The longer Williams takes to sign this fight like I said before, the less money it's gonna draw anyway due to a shitty promotion and yet you keep defending him.

I'll tell you where the fight can take place. Atlantic City with better judges. They made a name for themselves there after all and those people support boxing a lot. They didnt fight in the main arena though. They fought in front of 3,000 people. Neither one of them are draws all of a sudden since that fight.

Its beating a dead horse. How do we know Martinez isnt holding up the fight? Last I heard its the venue. If people actually use their fukking heads theyd figure that out. Where can HBO put this fight where they'll make money. You tell me. What venue? What card? Who actually wants to see Martinez and Williams fight outside of boxingscene? I'll tell you where the fight can take place. Atlantic City with better judges. They made a name for themselves there after all and those people support boxing a lot.

if martinez was the one holding up the fight, you wouldn't have posted that Its beating a dead horse. How do we know Martinez isnt holding up the fight? Last I heard its the venue. If people actually use their fukking heads theyd figure that out. Where can HBO put this fight where they'll make money. You tell me. What venue? What card? Who actually wants to see Martinez and Williams fight outside of boxingscene?

Goodness let it go.......... Gamboa and Wlad fight today. Enjoy the fights. The fight will be done when its done.

I'm a keep bumping this thread everyday as a reminder of misplaced balls on P-Will's part and to keep getting explanations from Burner since he claims he talks to Paul on Twitter.

He avoided palvik? Gtfoh I don't know what to make of that situation really. I mean to be fair to Paul, Pavlik did cancel the fight twice. But you would think something could've been worked out after Pavlik proved to everybody his hand finally got better. But Williams was adamant about getting 50-50 when Martinez took the fight for probably less money than what Williams was demanding.

Come on Paul. You are hurting the promotion for this fight. The longer you wait to man up, the less money this fight is gonna generate. I have a hard time believing that the promotion of this fight will be successful with less or more give or take two months to go. What's the exact date again? Anyway, Williams is looking pretty bad in my view by dragging his feet. well he did this with Pavlik to avoid that fight no suprise he doesnt want to fight Martinez again. I mean seriously here Martinez is the MW champ why on earth should WIlliams get more $$. Idiotic.

Seriously, what the fuck is taking so long? What was it Rafael said in his chat about the fight where the status is concerned?

Well............. Tick tock.