ESPNs ATG list: Which ATG boxers were undefeated?

Here's the list of ESPNs top 20 ATG boxers (2007). Which ones were undefeated? ATG Boxers: 1. Sugar Ray Robinson 2. Muhammad Ali 3. Henry Armstrong 4. Joe Louis 5. Willie Pep 6. Roberto Duran 7. Benny Leonard 8. Jack Johnson 9. Jack Dempsey 10. Sam Langford 11. Joe Gans 12. Sugar Ray Leonard 13. Harry Greb 14. Rocky Marciano 15. Jimmy Wilde 16. Gene Tunney 17. Mickey Walker 19. Stanley Ketchel 20. George Foreman Let's take it a step further. Fighter of the Decade List: 1950s Sugar Ray Robinson 1960s Muhamad Ali 1970s Roberto Duran 1980s Sugar Ray Leonard 1990s Roy Jones Jr. 2000s Manny Pacquiao Todays p4p list.. The Rings Top p4p list: 1. Manny Pacquiao 2. Floyd Mayweather Jr. 3. Juan Manuel Marquez 4. Nonito Donaire 5. Shane Mosl 6. Paul Williams 7. Sergio Martinez 8. Pongsaklek Wonj 9. Fernando Montiel 10. Wladimir Klitschko Here is a list of boxers that had retired with an undefeated record. Retired Undefeated: 1. Rocky Marciano: 49-0 2. Joe Calzaghe 46-0 3. Samson Dutch Boy Gym 43-0 4. Sven Ottke 34-0 5. Michael Loewe: 28-0 6. Edwin Valero: 27-0 7. George Kandelaki 24-0 8. Pichit Sitbangprachan 24-0 9. Harry Simon 25-0 10. Scott Daley 24-0 11. Jemal Hinton 22-0 12. Ike Ibeabuchi 20-0 13. Kirk Daley 19-0 14. Jimmy Barry 59-0-10 15. Ricardo Lopez 51-0-1 16. Edson Pedro Nascimento 47-0-1 17. Agustin Senin 42-0-1 18. Jack McAuliffe 34-0-7 19. Laszlo Papp 27-0-2 Great company? You have a couple big names there though, I will admit.. Remaining undefeated is definitely an accomplishment..but is it really a true indication of the greatness of a fighter?

Comments (20)

Gino_Ros

i vote yes because if you have two guys who are close and one have no lesses and one have losses then i want the guy with no losses some of the guys with no losses i dont know but if you have a guy who is good or great and he have no losses then that is big. if mayweather runs away and wins a decision on manny then he will be up in top 10 or top 20 because he beat a atg

15y ago

jrosales13

whoops, my mistake yall. imo Morales, Lopez, JCC, Olivares and Sal Sanchez are all top 50 anyway. although please dont ask me to make a top 50 list, thats way too much work, lol. Is cool, And, yes there is a lot of work to make a top 50 list. I would say Morales could be argued. I really think he is debatable. I won't argue either way if somebody has him in the low top 50 or just outside the top 50. I think he is in the top 3 greatest SBW of all time easily. I personally don't have him in my top 50. But, I won't argue if you do. Because, it could be argued that he is. Lopez? I am a huge Lopez fan. I think he has a good resume. That could of been a great resume if some fights would of taken place for example with Chiquita Gonzalez, Carbajal, or against too sharp Johnson at 112 in the late 90's. Skills wise this man is up there. He IMO is the most skillful, perfect fighter of my lifetime. I saw no flaw in him great technique, good speed, footwork, intelligence, power, he had it all. I would put him way up there skill wise. But, I don't think his resume, even though it is good, lives up to the top 50 ATG kind of level. Just my opinion.

15y ago

sicko

obviously just being undefeated don't make you a ATG, Mayweather SKILLS IN THE RING is what makes him a ATG though and the ability to do things many fighters can't or couldn't do Past or Present, this list was done back in 2007 and Mayweather was already #48 back then, Hate Him Or Love Him but he might go down as the most complete fighter in boxing History, the man really don't have much of a weakness, the Media people and the Fans love to hate him now because he is so good but when he steps away people will look back at his clips and video and be amazed by his PRUE SKILLS, the next Generation of fighters will STUDY Mayweather style, Boxing Trainers will USE Mayweather style to train their fighters, you already see it on youtube Trainers using Roger Mayweather's Pad Work style to train their fighters but all of those Rankings are Opinions nothing more nothing less, it is so many ATG Rankings, some have Ali #1, some have Robinson #1 and some have Armstrong #1 so it is ALL Opinions

15y ago

Steak

whoops, my mistake yall. imo Morales, Lopez, JCC, Olivares and Sal Sanchez are all top 50 anyway. although please dont ask me to make a top 50 list, thats way too much work, lol.

15y ago

Most do have losses...Floyd has his own infatuation with his 0...and its the most important thing to him... I think a loss may devastate him...he may not fight again...if its a knockout... If it was a points loss I think he would dispute it to the highest level...

15y ago

jrosales13

He said top 50, man. Not top 100. In my opinion, all those guys are probably top 100. I agree, I would put all of them in my top 100 but not top 50.

15y ago

_THE_KING_

excuse me? the only one on that list that wont make it into the top 100 is probably MAB. Sal Sanchez, JCC, Ruben Olivares, Morales, and Ricardo Lopez are definitely top 100. any country that focuses more on boxing will do better in it. it seems so obvious, but its so hard for people to grasp. Mexico is a border away.. The P.I. is oceans away.. And MAB IMO is top 100.. easy

15y ago

Heeb

excuse me? the only one on that list that wont make it into the top 100 is probably MAB. Sal Sanchez, JCC, Ruben Olivares, Morales, and Ricardo Lopez are definitely top 100. He said top 50, man. Not top 100. In my opinion, all those guys are probably top 100.

15y ago

jrosales13

15y ago

_THE_KING_

This thread is rather stupid. Thanks for the input.

15y ago

jrosales13

JCC, Finito, Chava, EM, MAB,Ruben Olivares aren't top 50? :nonono: Only Sanchez, JCC, and Olivares I can say are top 50 no doubt. The others eh not so much. It could be argued. But, they only have 3 sure fire. And, the Pinoys have 2 sure fire Elorde and Pac.

15y ago

Steak

A lot of those guys aren't, no. excuse me? the only one on that list that wont make it into the top 100 is probably MAB. Sal Sanchez, JCC, Ruben Olivares, Morales, and Ricardo Lopez are definitely top 100. Opportunity is the keyword.. and Mexico has it. any country that focuses more on boxing will do better in it. it seems so obvious, but its so hard for people to grasp.

15y ago

rochemback

It's an indicator for ducking the best opposition or/and knowing when it is the right time to call it quits. But it's only natural that even all time greats decline and get beat by some younger blood at the end of their career, doesn't take anything away from their greatness, merely gives back to the sport by helping to build new big names to pass the torch to.

15y ago

This thread is rather stupid.

15y ago

_THE_KING_

i agree and i just wanted to see the list from espn so no problem espn didnt do boxing for a long time though This list was done back in 2007.

15y ago

Gino_Ros

You can google top ATG boxers if you'd like. A lot of these lists are based on opinion. Regardless of the standings and rankings of these boxers, though it is a great accomplishment to remain undefeated throughout a boxers career, it would not change the fact that they are few and far between on the top ATG list. i agree and i just wanted to see the list from espn so no problem espn didnt do boxing for a long time though

15y ago

_THE_KING_

Mexico and the Phillipines actualyl have very similiar population sizes, although Mexico encompasses a much wider area. Opportunity is the keyword.. and Mexico has it.

15y ago

_THE_KING_

3.... But, you know if you do a top 50. Arguably there are 3 Mexican fighters that clearly belong and 2 Filipino fighters. For Mexico to be so big and have so many people. That you would think it would have way more top 50 ATG fighters than the Philippines do. But, really they only have one more. Still carnales Raba :D Exactly.. I love mexican fighters..always give a good fight, but I don't know what this other dudes problem is.

15y ago

Steak

Mexico and the Phillipines actualyl have very similiar population sizes, although Mexico encompasses a much wider area.

15y ago

Heeb

JCC, Finito, Chava, EM, MAB,Ruben Olivares aren't top 50? :nonono: A lot of those guys aren't, no.

15y ago