Pavlik Vs Trinidad at MW

Of course I was being sarcastic, but Tito was greatly conditioned. Also, Vargas was able to stand near him, slip alot of Tito's punches and set him up. Pavlik doesn't have those skills and neither does his size/ power compensate for that lack of skill. Remember, he took alot of good punches from B-Hop, Bernard may not hit as hard as Pavlik but he's alot more accurate and at that time was very consistent with his attack. I view Pavlik as too much of a basic fighter to actually deal with Tito. I favor Tito myself I can just see how it may be possible for Pavlik to pull it off. Hes a big strong guy and if he can hit you he can hurt you.

Anybody can run out of gas. I think Pavlik can absorb punishment better than Vargas did and he can hurt Tito with any punch. If Tito tries to finish him and cant hes going to need to take a break and thats dangerous. Of course I was being sarcastic, but Tito was greatly conditioned. Also, Vargas was able to stand near him, slip alot of Tito's punches and set him up. Pavlik doesn't have those skills and neither does his size/ power compensate for that lack of skill. Remember, he took alot of good punches from B-Hop, Bernard may not hit as hard as Pavlik but he's alot more accurate and at that time was very consistent with his attack. I view Pavlik as too much of a basic fighter to actually deal with Tito.

It's a tossup, Trinidad is the better and more precise boxer, but I think if Pavlik can take Trinidad's shots, he'd wear him down with his great output for a guy with his size and power and eventually knock him out.

Thing is, Tito never ran out of gass, so good luck with that. Anybody can run out of gas. I think Pavlik can absorb punishment better than Vargas did and he can hurt Tito with any punch. If Tito tries to finish him and cant hes going to need to take a break and thats dangerous.

Thing is, Tito never ran out of gass, so good luck with that. He did against Hopkins. After that 10th round he looked knackered, and got KOd soon after. It wasn't just the one punch - it was the accumulation Don't forget Pavlik doesn't have half the skills Vargas did, and I do mean that literally. You're right - he doesn't. Vargas's skill > Pavlik Pavlik's Stamina > Vargas Pavlik's Power > Vargas Pavlik's Reach > Vargas Pavlik's Chin > Vargas Pavlik's Size > Vargas Pavlik's Jab = Vargas But i doubt Pavlik-trinidad would be fought on skills. These are two basics fighters who can both be outboxed by slick guys, but their main assets are power. Trinidad's left versus Pavlik's straight right

Vargas and Pavlik can't be compared. Vargas got KOd by Trinidad, DLH, Mosley(x2). Pavlik has never been KOed, only been down once. Don't forget Tito dropped vargas twice within the first minute, and couldn't finish him till the 12th No-one's ever outbrawled Pavlik either. Heavy hitters like Miranda and Taylor got pummeled when they tried to exchange with Pavlik - that's his strength as much as Tito's Oh and at 160 Pavliks power & chin > Titos power & chin, and trinidad would hardly outbox pavlik like hopkinds/martinez would he? Don't forget Pavlik doesn't have half the skills Vargas did, and I do mean that literally.

Pretty good fight, I give Tito the edge but give Pavlik a possibility of pulling it off. JT was punching the hell out of Pavlik for the KD and Pavlik came back. Tito could possibly run out of gas if he chose to try to finish Pavlik early and Pavlik can hurt him if he gets to him. Thing is, Tito never ran out of gass, so good luck with that.

Vargas and Pavlik can't be compared. Vargas got KOd by Trinidad, DLH, Mosley(x2). Pavlik has never been KOed, only been down once. Don't forget Tito dropped vargas twice within the first minute, and couldn't finish him till the 12th Straight ahead sluggers like Pavlik were murdered by Trinidad. No-one's ever outbrawled Pavlik either. Heavy hitters like Miranda and Taylor got pummeled when they tried to exchange with Pavlik - that's his strength as much as Tito's Oh and at 160 Pavliks power & chin > Titos power & chin, and trinidad would hardly outbox pavlik like hopkinds/martinez would he?

Pretty good fight, I give Tito the edge but give Pavlik a possibility of pulling it off. JT was punching the hell out of Pavlik for the KD and Pavlik came back. Tito could possibly run out of gas if he chose to try to finish Pavlik early and Pavlik can hurt him if he gets to him.

Unless Kelly was a slick boxer with side to side lateral movement/foot work and a decent jab (none of which he was) then he gets stomped by Tito. Tito's strength lay in opponents who offered no movement and were stationary to hit. Don't believe me? Ask Vargas....

Straight ahead sluggers like Pavlik were murdered by Trinidad.

Wow.Unbeleivable posts. Trinidad makes pavlik retreat and stuns him like martinez did.Only difference is a ko by trinidad.But pavlik still gets his pop ups in.

Pavlik is no quitter. he got up off the canvas against taylor after a brutal onslaught and came back to KO him Trinidad can't hurt Pavlik, but can definitely be hurt by pavlik. Trinidad mad a career of getting up off the canvas and coming back to ko his opponent brutally. He did it against Vargas, Reid, I think against Carr etc. Trinidad hits harder than Jermain Taylor and Jermain Taylor rocked and dropped Pavlik. Trinidad can too and Trinidad is one of the greatest finisgers ever. Look at what he did to Joppy at 160.

Look at all the shots he took from both Oscar and B-Hop. Oscar was a welterweight. and no way does b-hop hit as hard as pavlik oh and he got KO'd by b-hop I think Tito would make Pavlik quit too, Pavlik wanted out against Martinez. Don't remember what came out of Pavlik's mouth but all I remember was Jack Loew screaming "No, NO!". Pavlik is no quitter. he got up off the canvas against taylor after a brutal onslaught and came back to KO him Tito don't stop ****, Tito would get seriously hurt by Pavlik. Pavlik has showed a great chin. Tito hasn't and Tito cheated. ^^^ this. Trinidad can't hurt Pavlik, but can definitely be hurt by pavlik.

I think Tito would make Pavlik quit too, Pavlik wanted out against Martinez. Don't remember what came out of Pavlik's mouth but all I remember was Jack Loew screaming "No, NO!".

Tito don't stop ****, Tito would get seriously hurt by Pavlik. Pavlik has showed a great chin. Tito hasn't and Tito cheated. Look at all the shots he took from both Oscar and B-Hop.

Trinidad stops him.