EXCLUSIVE THREAD: PBF FANS ONLY!! Name 1 Fighter and Why who Could Beat MAYWEATHER!!

Prime Jose Luis Castillo. Oh wait...

Well that was a rather random response. What does that have to do with what I said. And again, the fact that Floyd won it by Split Decision is irrelevant to me, seeing as how I with many others scored it for Floyd Unanimously. Don't get emotional on me, it's boring and I've read it all before. Notice how the poster said that a lot of people felt sturm won and yet he was saying how only the scorecards matter.

I will have to disagree. There is no way to tell whether he there were stamina issues, but what was evident is that his Jab got neutralized and he stopped trying to use it. He said it himself during the post-fight interview: "For some reason, my Jab stopped working". Yes for some mysterious reason, your key weapons stopped working. Couldn't have been because of your opponent could it. Peak mayweather won a SD versus a fighter that had one punch the jab no right hand, no stamina after 7 rounds. HMMM and we wont to put him up there with the Leonards, Robinsons, etc. Maybe a discussion for pound for pound, but at Welter a peak leonard stops mayweather easily if he goes for the kill. That fight is not even close. Hearns would slaughter Mayweather.... IN fact. we are talking about all time top great fighers, and mayweather will not fight the best today. He wont fight Williams, he wont sign to fight Pacman, he ducked margo, he will not fight cotto. he backed out of a signed contract with Winky wright.... And we think he would honestly sign to fight a SRL or Hearns...Please.. Based on what, as he has yet to prove he will fight big peak Welter. only old shot welters or small fighters.

Oscar won the WBC LMW belt in the fight before Mayweather which was an impressive KO win. At that point in his career he had only lost to Trinidad, Mosley (both controversial) and Hopkins (a much bigger opponent). This was a fight everyone wanted to see. Oscar was still a top 154lb fighter and Floyd has never fought at the weight before. Which made it interesting. You need to learn the definition of "shot". A "shot" fighter is somebody who is completely finished and had nothing left. Oscar had just won a world title and gave one of his best performences of his entire career. Iv'e gotta put you on ignore for such ignorance. oscar was a shot fighter. He may not have been totally shot like leoanrd was vs norris, but Oscar had nothing left in the tank. Remember that fight vs nosley was the 2nd fight. Tito he was slipping then. Put it like this, DLh that fought Mosley the 1st time, would have destroyed Mayweather that night they fought. Facts going into round 8, DLh was winning 5-2 on 2 of the cards. Then he had stamina issues. Younger DLH who was able to fight 12 solid rounds vs Mosley, would have no problems beating Gayweather. Again what Peak, great, and natural welter has Mayweather ever beat?

We have to learn to distinguish between being Past-Prime and being Shot. There is a difference. Oscar was past his prime, but by no means was he shot. Against Sturm, he came in with a soft out of shape body, lets keep that in mind if we're gonna use it. Against B-Hop, he simply got Ko'd against a great middleweight, and won some rounds in the process. Came in great shape. Had a great night against Mayorga, and put all his tools on display at his more natural weight of 154. It was against Forbes where he started showing signs of being SHOT, and the going back down in weight along with his inactivity played a major part in that. I will concur for th emost part but I will stick with shot, because had he been close to prime, he would have been able to pull out 1 of the last 5 rounds, as it was simply stamina isssues that rendered him helpless those last 5 rounds..

Oscar was shot when he faced floyd. Totally shot. All he had was a jab. he had just lost 2 out of 4 fights and most thought he lost to Sturm. This was by no means a top DLH...And still mayweather won barely...what a joke. Oscar won the WBC LMW belt in the fight before Mayweather which was an impressive KO win. At that point in his career he had only lost to Trinidad, Mosley (both controversial) and Hopkins (a much bigger opponent). This was a fight everyone wanted to see. Oscar was still a top 154lb fighter and Floyd has never fought at the weight before. Which made it interesting. You need to learn the definition of "shot". A "shot" fighter is somebody who is completely finished and had nothing left. Oscar had just won a world title and gave one of his best performences of his entire career. Iv'e gotta put you on ignore for such ignorance.

You are being intellectually dishonest. Why don't you tell the whole truth. Oscar came in a healthy 154 vs Floyd. He had a healthy diet regiment, slowly burning down to that weight. Against Forbes, it was a catchweight fight at 150, a weight Oscar probably didn't walk around or weigh at in years. He looked like ****, and weighing in at 145 against Pacquiao, looked even more washed up. Oscar was shot when he faced floyd. Totally shot. All he had was a jab. he had just lost 2 out of 4 fights and most thought he lost to Sturm. This was by no means a top DLH...And still mayweather won barely...what a joke.

WTF!!! Really?? I can't agree with that at all. De la Hoya missed the majority of his punches when PBF was laying on the ropes and got dominated when the fight was in the center of the ring. That fight will never be close. I agree dlh missed punches, but mayweather was not punching, thus they had no choice but to give DLH these boring rounds and mayweather did not fight many of the early rounds.

Lets get this straight, there is no point in time. When Oscar would of ever beat Floyd. Even at 135/140 where Oscar was at his best at. Floyd would still work him over. Learn boxing. According to the judges, which is what counts. if DLH would have won round 12, he would have won. I had it 5 rounds 2 going into the 8th also...

Ricardo Lopez! If he had put on 25-30lbs! :lol1: No, I'm only joking. Those two are my 2 favorite fighters of all time. I think Floyd is the best fighter of this era. Nobody in this era can beat him. The only person who can beat him is himself. By that I mean if he takes too much time off and stops training seriously. He also has alot of problems with his body so it's possible we will see him lose. I would like to think he won't though. Floyd should be smart and try and finish his career in the next 3 years. I'm confident that he will, Floyd doesnt strike me as a guy that will stick around too long. He knows that boxing needs him alot more than he needs boxing. "The sport won't retire me, I will retire from the sport"

IMDAZED is not really a Floyd fan. He just a fan of the PED issue it just so happens that Floyd is the one that brought it to light. And, he supports Floyd in this issue. Doesn't mean he is a fan but just a fan of having OST. So if he is not a Floyd why does he get allowed to answer the question without getting put on ignore? Anyways if Dazed gets to answer then I will to At 130 I just can't see anybody beating Floyd. Not saying he is the GOAT in that weight-class. I think Arguello is the GOAT. But, Floyd style wise would not be good for Arguello. At 135, I think it is different. I think Duran and Whitaker would beat him. I think JCC had the style to give Floyd problems. I also think Floyd had the style to give JCC problems. Plus the LW divisoin has a rich history a lot of great fighters that could of given Floyd problems even beat him. Ike Williams is another one. At 140, again I think JCC would be tough. But, I think it would of been a tough match up for both. I think Pryor could beat him but I think it also depends if it is a 12 or a 15 round fight. And, I don't think Floyd beats any true ATG true WW. But, is not fair to Floyd it is not his weight-class. It his 4th weight-class and he was a better fighter at the lower weights. Welter most likely is Floyd natural weight class. What many fail to realize is that back when ray fought, they weighed in the day of...thus they were true welter at the weigh in.. Today floyd will weight in 5-10 pounds less than he fights..Thus when he was fighting at 135 adn even his couple of fights at 130, fight night he was 140 or above. I saw when he faced an opponent once he weighed in at 134 and night of fight he was 142. That makes him a welter. How this is relevant, is you can not or do not want to starve yourself to make weight day of and then carb up, as this leads to all types of issues a fighter will experience in the ring, cramping, bleeding, etc. So the day before allows a fighter all types of benefits..

This Thread is solely meant for Floyd Mayweather Junior fans. That’s it. I am taking about the Notorious fans on this site. Like No ceiling, Htown, Larry, Spacey, Kevin, M.I.C, Imdazed, S H A R K B O Y, crillz, Ray Ray, Webb, haterfree, etc. the list goes on. I am talking about the fans who get RED K... for their opinions of their favorite fighter which is Mayweather... SO if you havent got Red K at least 10 times for supporting Mayweather. Please choose another thread. WARNING: I will put all Haters and NONE FANS on ignore and blocked them from participating in this THREAD. This is an exclusive thread. NO Flaming this time. I just want an Honest Discussion for once between a certain group of posters... So please if you are not a fan of his STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD. make your own thread.. Because I will block you from this thread if you are a known HATER. Name 1 Fighter that could have beat Floyd. 154: Terry Norris Basically Terry Norris was too much of a monster in this division. Plain and Simple. Floyd Would have to have the night of his life to beat Norris at 154 and he still would take punishment in the process.. I seriously believe this.. If Mosley could buckle floyd like he did in the 2nd round.. My God.. Norris would end **** quick. Just watch the John Mugabi fight. I mean Damn look what Norris did too Meldrick Taylor when they fought... I honestly believe Mayweather would have need to have the best night of his life to beat Norris at 154 in both of their primes. I am soley basing this of their attributes and skill set.. How about you guys, pick one fight and why.. Castillo. Why? Cause he beat him already...

No one can touch Floyd. Plain and simple. Im on my way out so i really cant explain, but then again there's no need to if you really know the mental and physical level that Floyd is on. The man is God gifted. i think he's just blessed. he's like NEO, he's just the one. Your an idiot. floyd has beaten who great, peak and at their peak weight....name 1 peak welter..who was at peak weight and was great..you all do not know boxing. You all simply see floyd fight bums or old fighters, do not realize he is ducking williams, backed out of the fiht with winky wright, running from pacman, punked ouit of the margo fight, and you all like mummies think floyd is the greatest.. Who has he beat?

No one can touch Floyd. Plain and simple. Im on my way out so i really cant explain, but then again there's no need to if you really know the mental and physical level that Floyd is on. The man is God gifted. i think he's just blessed. he's like NEO, he's just the one.

I think Ray would probably win too but Floyd would definately have a chance. Ray puttin a beating on senior means nothing, its not relevant. Rays jab wasnt as good as DLHs and Leonard didnt always fight smart(Duran fight). Just some things to think about.... Ohh Ray jab was as good as DlH. In fact Ray dropped people with his jab. Study up bro. he dropped benetiz with his jab. The difference is DLH depended on the jab more and the left hook. Ray had a great right hand too, and wanted to counter so he would intentionally paw with the jab to lure a person in, so he could counter and make it a fight. DLh wanted to control you with the jab and set up his left hook, did not want to have to use his right. SRl had a great great jab..

I think Ray would probably win too but Floyd would definately have a chance. Ray puttin a beating on senior means nothing, its not relevant. Rays jab wasnt as good as DLHs and Leonard didnt always fight smart(Duran fight). Just some things to think about.... have you ever boxed..It means everything. Styles makes fights. floyd senior came up in a different era with only 2 champs. He would be a champion today in the 10 champ per weight class era. Floyd senior uses the shoulder roll and was fast and hit like a bitc$ like floyd does. Maybe he is not as good or is a slight bit slower but the fact is Ray would stay on top of floyd juniro making him fight and floyd junior would not be faster, nor are we talking about a38 year old like mosley, nor a fighter that loses to everyone after 4 rounds like judah, nor a shot fighter like dlh. You say Ray didnt always fight smart like Duran. True you got one fight. However Mayweather is not duran. what style would mayweather use to beat leoanrd. Styles makes fights. So help me understand. Is he gonna outbox ray. Please. He cant hurt ray. He is not gonna fight the style of fight Duran used the 1st time vs Ray, a style that Ray adapted to and renedered helpless the 2nd fight. Even floyds undle Roger said, SRl and Robinson at Welter were two fighters that his nephew would nto be able to beat. It would be a stoppage in 5. Keep this in mind. Mosley at 38 was able to land 2 shots vs Mayweather in the 2nd round but could not finish the job. Judah was able to land shots. SRl is 10 times the fighter either of these versions that showed up vs Mayweather was. If peak ray, the ray that beat hearns, showed up vs mayweather, it is not a fight, in fact as we know, mayweather would not even sign the contract.

Im not sold on Tommy beating Floyd. And Tommy is from my city and hes my favorite fighter of all time. I have the career set, etc. Im not sure he beats Mayweather. A big deal is made about 147 not being Floyds best weight so its not fair to match him with the ATG WW's. I dissagree. This isnt his best weight but even still hes still amazing at 147. Please..I am so dammm amazad at crazy mayweather fans..You all show yoiu know nothing about boxing. Who has mayweather fought that is peak, and great, and at there best weight since he has been at welter? WhO? Now to beat tommy you have to come to fight. Mayweather does not come to fight, he comes to box. Tommy made leonard become a fighter, and Ray did and that is how you beat Tommy. Not the pot shotting that Mayweather does. Remember the jab dlh used on Mayweather? and how when dlh had his wind, he was winning the fight. Well what do you think a 78 inch reach on tommy who unlike DLH has the best right hand that the division ever had..and a monster left hook too. Are you freaking kidding me. You think a man scared to even mention paul williams name is ready to deal with hearns.. This is straight up comedy....

Leonard, Duran, Hearns obviously. I also think Frankie Randall and Terry Norris would've given him fits. I agree!:boxing:

Might Floyd would not have a chance vs prime SRL....Ray is to strong to fast, just as smart, mentally has the reach,,,would stay on top of mayweather like he did his father, and make him fight. Floyd could not hurt him, or stay away.... If floyd had issues with DLH jab, or the speed of Judah the 1st 4 rounds til judah always self destructs, what would he do vs a much smarter, much mentally tougher Ray, who had as good as a jab as dlh had Come on people you all that grew up in this mayweather era are jokes. Mayweather has never seen anything like a prime srl. I think Ray would probably win too but Floyd would definately have a chance. Ray puttin a beating on senior means nothing, its not relevant. Rays jab wasnt as good as DLHs and Leonard didnt always fight smart(Duran fight). Just some things to think about....

Ray Charles Leonard would give Floyd hell at 147...I would probably favor Leonard in a fight... Leonard is bigger and stronger, has faster hands than Floyd at 147... I give Floyd a shot...he MIGHT be able to beat Leonard mentally...whether that's psyche before the fight or outsmarting him in the ring... Would be a great fight though... Hearns would be a tough fight and Duran as well... Might Floyd would not have a chance vs prime SRL....Ray is to strong to fast, just as smart, mentally has the reach,,,would stay on top of mayweather like he did his father, and make him fight. Floyd could not hurt him, or stay away.... If floyd had issues with DLH jab, or the speed of Judah the 1st 4 rounds til judah always self destructs, what would he do vs a much smarter, much mentally tougher Ray, who had as good as a jab as dlh had Come on people you all that grew up in this mayweather era are jokes. Mayweather has never seen anything like a prime srl.