Ok, when the Klitschko's came out and said they offered 50/50 and then the rumor was that haye offered 50/50 but he gets english ppv and Klits get German tv deal, it even crossed my mind, "why wouldnt the Klitschko's take that deal? Certainly they are more popular in Germany than Haye is in Calzagheville/England. But Haye's revelation made everything make sense, the Klitschko's arent dumb, they arent giving Haye a straight 50/50 because he beat a guy who had a trinket and then struggled to beat an 82 year old John Ruiz?
The Klitschko's offered Haye: 50/50 of everything but German tv money
Haye countered with: ok, but then I get British ppv money
His counter offer was taking one of the main reasons theyd fight him and give him such a generous split out of the deal. His straight 50/50 deal entitled him to money that he had nothing to do with, since no one in Germany is tuning in to watch Haye vs. harrison or Sprott or anything.
So while even I questioned why the Klitschko's would turn down taking Germany and Haye taking Engliand, this makes everything make more sense. Haye is just a coward, he wants a true 50/50 which he doesnt deserve, how about he beats a contender first at least.
Whoa calm down son sounds like you have a few issues. I haven't said I condone anything.
You said it makes sense to you and that you'd do the same, which is the same thing as condoning it.
ps Who gives a **** that you had a letter published in the Ring
If you don't give a *** about it, just ignore it, you troll.
Look at it from Haye's point of view -
Several German TV companies are offering a significant increase of money when compared to the current RTL contract Klitschko is tied into. This means that if Haye signs a 50-50 deal, he will still be making less money than what he could potentially make. It's not Haye's fault Wlad is tied into a multi-fight TV contract.
So Haye offered an alternative, Haye keeps all the UK PPV revenue, Wlad keeps all the German revenue, and they split the rest 50-50. This would ensure that Haye isn't punished monetarily for a TV contract he has no control over. Wlad refused.
What TV contract Wlad has is absolutely none of Haye's business, and Haye's arrogance, demanding that the lineal champion has to break his contract so that Haye can make a little more money from the fight, is just breathtaking (especially as Wlad has so far had 11 title defences, all against top 10 opponents, whereas Haye has so far only fought one top 10 opponent, a man generally only ranked #6 at the time, and he only won that fight by a majority decision in a very close fight). No one in the whole of boxing history has ever made an equivalent demand before. 50/50 means 50% of the total purse - end of story. Haye said he would accept 50/50 but he lied.
As I posted in reply to you in another thread, the RTL contract means that Wlad's fights are seen by an average of around 20 million viewers. Haye's PPV contract means that his fights are seen by an average of less than 1 million viewers. Wlad's contract is far better for the health of boxing than Haye's greedy contract is, and Wlad should be applauded for keeping boxing mainstream in Germany, instead of being a greedy little punk like Haye and putting a small increase in money ahead of the health of the sport. For anyone to criticise him for doing so is just insane. No genuine boxing fan could do anything but applaud him.
If Haye signed with ITV so that his fights could be seen by 10-20 million viewers per fight instead of 1 million (as big fights regularly used to be in the UK), and if by doing so it meant he'd be paid a little less per fight, but that boxing would become a mainstream sport in the UK again, as it used to be, and as it still is in Germany, would you criticise him for doing that? If you would, you're not a boxing fan. But if you wouldn't, you're an extreme practitioner of double standards.
And Haye's so-called "alternative offer" would have meant the lineal champion taking less than 50% of the total purse to fight Haye, which is so ridiculous that no one with an IQ above 10 could possibly consider that Haye was really being serious when he made that "offer". He knew damn well that Wlad would tell him to shove his "offer" where the sun don't shine.
Haye would have made well over $10 million if he'd fought Wlad this year on a straight 50/50 split. His excuse for not doing so is just pathetic, and is simply not credible. He was clearly looking for an excuse not to fight Wlad this year. Stop being such a nuthugger and face reality.
Ignoring all the ins and outs of it and calling people ******* and cowards, it does make sense to try and make the most money 1. for every fight, and 2. in your career. This is Haye's job, it makes sense to try and make the most he can. Don't we all do that?
david haye has no business trying to dictate terms to either k bro.
That's the bottom line here. Haye is trying to name his terms in a situation where he should be glad they offered what they did.
Look at it from Haye's point of view -
Several German TV companies are offering a significant increase of money when compared to the current RTL contract Klitschko is tied into. This means that if Haye signs a 50-50 deal, he will still be making less money than what he could potentially make. It's not Haye's fault Wlad is tied into a multi-fight TV contract.
So Haye offered an alternative, Haye keeps all the UK PPV revenue, Wlad keeps all the German revenue, and they split the rest 50-50. This would ensure that Haye isn't punished monetarily for a TV contract he has no control over. Wlad refused.
Are you seriously claiming that he wasn't offered a big prize??? He was offered a straight 50/50 deal, which almost certainly means well over than $10 million, FFS. And he turned that down to fight someone ranked outside the top 40 in the world. This after all his trash talking, and all his claims to be the saviour of the division, and all his claims that all he want to do is unify the belts and beat all the best fighters in the division. You seriously condone that???
Whoa calm down son sounds like you have a few issues. I haven't said I condone anything.
ps Who gives a **** that you had a letter published in the Ring, that little signature makes you seem arrogant and sad at the same time.
erm..wouldn't that make sense though? He is after all a prizefighter, I too would want a big prize for fighting one of those two big mother****ers!
Are you seriously claiming that he wasn't offered a big prize??? He was offered a straight 50/50 deal, which almost certainly means well over than $10 million, FFS. And he turned that down to fight someone ranked outside the top 40 in the world. This after all his trash talking, and all his claims to be the saviour of the division, and all his claims that all he want to do is unify the belts and beat all the best fighters in the division. You seriously condone that???
That makes Haye look like a punk. He wants to milk every last cent out of this fight to pay for his healthcare.
Wlad is contracted to fight on RTL. He offered Haye 50% of that money. Haye is so greedy that he wants Wlad to change broadcasters to try to get even more money.
erm..wouldn't that make sense though? He is after all a prizefighter, I too would want a big prize for fighting one of those two big mother****ers!
And easily the biggest pay day of the Klits career.....
Not so, Vitali made a ton of money in his comeback fight. He could have very well made more for that fight.
Like i said watch the Haye video again, Wlad offered 50/50 on everything. Other German TV networks were offering more money but Wlad wanted to stay with RTL and Haye wasn't happy with that because he wanted the most he could get. So he offered Wlad to keep all German money and he keeps UK. Wlad said no.
That makes Haye look like a punk. He wants to milk every last cent out of this fight to pay for his healthcare.
Wlad is contracted to fight on RTL. He offered Haye 50% of that money. Haye is so greedy that he wants Wlad to change broadcasters to try to get even more money.
Like i said watch the Haye video again, Wlad offered 50/50 on everything. Other German TV networks were offering more money but Wlad wanted to stay with RTL and Haye wasn't happy with that because he wanted the most he could get. So he offered Wlad to keep all German money and he keeps UK. Wlad said no.
Yeah, what happened when Haye signed to fight Wlad then backed out?
Like i said watch the Haye video again, Wlad offered 50/50 on everything. Other German TV networks were offering more money but Wlad wanted to stay with RTL and Haye wasn't happy with that because he wanted the most he could get. So he offered Wlad to keep all German money and he keeps UK. Wlad said no.
It's obvious he waited until they had fights signed to talk. Everyone should be able to make up their own minds about what his intentions are from this point on.