Manny Pacquiao thank you for RUINING boxing...

Im always confused about comments like this. Who exactly is so much more undeniably better than Margarito that Pacquiao could fight? And dont give me Mayweather because its both of their faults that that fight isnt signed. Granted, I wish the Pac-Margarito fight didnt have so much BS surrounding it...like the catchweight and the fact that its a title fight. thats annoying, stupid and a pile of fluff. But when it gets down to it and youre only looking at the fact that hes fighting Margarito...its not a bad fight whatsoever, even if Margarito isnt prime.

Pacquiao has put me off boxing. I love the sport but it's hard to love the sport when you get fighters like Pacquiao who claim to be the best but refuse to fight the best. If you disagree then I will give you plenty of evidence to back up my argument. Margarito isnt the first damaged opponent he's fighting and he won't be the last either. Pacquiao fought Erik Morales after he was dominated by Zahir Raheem, He fought Ricky Hatton after he was knocked out by Floyd Mayweather, He fought Miguel Cotto after he was knocked out by Antonio Margarito and now he's fighting Antonio Margarito after he was knocked out by Shane Mosley. I can't remember any other fighter getting so much credit for beating damaged opposition. My favorite fighter, Floyd Mayweather Jr is always called a "cherrypicker" on this forum but how many fighters has he fought coming off KO losses? How many catchweight fights has he had? How many vacant belts has he won? Zero. He always moved up and beat the official champion for the WBC belt which was regarded as the best belt, until they sanctioned Pacquiao-Margarito as a world title fight. Now the WBC has lost alot of credibility but back then it was the best belt. I think the worst thing about Pacquiao is his fake image and attitude. He acts as though Mayweather is ducking him but that's clearly not the case. Pacquiao was offered a 14 day cutoff with a 50-50 split and rejected it. Floyd then said that was off the table and he would demand 60-40 and Pacquiao is refusing to agree to it. But he's still claiming Floyd is ducking him when in reality he is ducking the fight. 60-40 and random OSDT would get the fight done but I don't think Pacquiao will ever agree. He will claim he agreed to boost his image and Floyd will get blasted for "ducking him". Floyd is always looked at as the bad guy but he is willing to prove he is clean and Pacquiao is not. He wants scheduled tests, 14 day cutoff etc anything but the USADA testing up until the fight. Floyd will do whatever test USADA want but Pacquiao is not willing. But Floyd is the bad guy? This whole thing has really put me off boxing. I still love the sport but the sooner Manny Pacquiao retires and we don't have to put up with his B.S and lies. The better for boxing and it's fans. When did Pac say he was the best? Seriously.

oh, I read "Pac RUNNING the sport", but now Im realizing that you said "RUINING", so Im leaving, good luck.

The TS does make a very good point. Manny is supposed to be the best fighter in the world. Why is he fighting Clottey and Margarito back to back? That's not stuff champions are made of. If people are gonna criticize Floyd then Manny deserves the same amount. Manny fighting Margarito is like Floyd fighting Carlos Quintana next. I co-sign this^^^^^^^:fing02:

Another whining Flomo thread :nonono:

The TS does make a very good point. Manny is supposed to be the best fighter in the world. Why is he fighting Clottey and Margarito back to back? That's not stuff champions are made of. If people are gonna criticize Floyd then Manny deserves the same amount. Manny fighting Margarito is like Floyd fighting Carlos Quintana next. No thats to much of a challange for him Quintana beat Williams try Calderon

Geez this is like the millionth floyd vs pacq thread. Who cares if either fighter wanted to really make this fight happen it wouldve happened already. Floyd doesnt actively pursue top fighters he cherry picks alot but gets alot of cash for fighting so he dont care he just wants to make his money without risking his record.

the only real defense that can be put up for manny pacquiao constantly fighting losers is to find examples where floyd mayweather did it, too. that is no real defense. the arguments would be over if people would stop defending their favorite fighter's actions and just agreeing that they would have, at least, prefered they took a different route. in david diaz, he fought the weakest 135 champion. fought a de la hoya that roach urged to retire two fights before. fought a ricky hatton that had been knocked out by floyd then dang near knock out again in england his next fight before fighting the light hitting malinaggi to set up one last big payday. cotto got a belt from jennings (completely overmatched opponent) after getting broken down by margarito and was thrown in with a fellow top rank employee to keep the belt in-house only to be fed to manny (though i still think this was a good win). clottey, with losses to margarito and cotto due to lack of activity, is put in with pacquiao right after his last loss. mysteriously, won't throw punches and comes back in interviews afterward saying a lot of "things" were going on. now, margarito, who was laughed at as a possible opponent until mosley stopped his train. afterward, he gets a tune-up, and that's who top rank wants to feed manny next. i think when he won that fight at 140, and gained the lineal championship, he could have safely cleared out that division in about 2 years and then moved up to tackle 147. his timing, and refusal to fight shane mosley, made it so he was fighting "damaged" product. You will be attacked bro, but none of your facts will be debunked, ul just be called names.. lock ur windows and pray... I thought I was the only one who caught that Clottey signal... his attitude just changed when he was asked "what happend". You can tell he's a proud man and wanted to say something, but he couldn't.. man I'm glad you caught that.

Mayweather fought Zab Judah after getting beat by Carlos Baldomir. JMM and Floyd fought at a catchweight, which Floyd didn't make anyways. Apply the same standard to Floyd as you do to Manny. Just like a Turd to tell 1/2 truths. Floyd and Zab agreed to fight B4 he lost to Baldi, he then fought Baldi to get the belts he was supposed to take from Zab.. Stop learning boxing history on PacLand.

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the only real defense that can be put up for manny pacquiao constantly fighting losers is to find examples where floyd mayweather did it, too. that is no real defense. the arguments would be over if people would stop defending their favorite fighter's actions and just agreeing that they would have, at least, prefered they took a different route. in david diaz, he fought the weakest 135 champion. fought a de la hoya that roach urged to retire two fights before. fought a ricky hatton that had been knocked out by floyd then dang near knock out again in england his next fight before fighting the light hitting malinaggi to set up one last big payday. cotto got a belt from jennings (completely overmatched opponent) after getting broken down by margarito and was thrown in with a fellow top rank employee to keep the belt in-house only to be fed to manny (though i still think this was a good win). clottey, with losses to margarito and cotto due to lack of activity, is put in with pacquiao right after his last loss. mysteriously, won't throw punches and comes back in interviews afterward saying a lot of "things" were going on. now, margarito, who was laughed at as a possible opponent until mosley stopped his train. afterward, he gets a tune-up, and that's who top rank wants to feed manny next. i think when he won that fight at 140, and gained the lineal championship, he could have safely cleared out that division in about 2 years and then moved up to tackle 147. his timing, and refusal to fight shane mosley, made it so he was fighting "damaged" product.

The TS does make a very good point. Manny is supposed to be the best fighter in the world. Why is he fighting Clottey and Margarito back to back? That's not stuff champions are made of. If people are gonna criticize Floyd then Manny deserves the same amount. Manny fighting Margarito is like Floyd fighting Carlos Quintana next.

Mayweather fought Zab Judah after getting beat by Carlos Baldomir. There wasn't anything devastating that happened in that fight for Judah to be seen as damaged. JMM and Floyd fought at a catchweight, which Floyd didn't make anyways. Yeah, the fight was at a catch weight, basically a tune up. He DID have about a two year lay off. Apply the same standard to Floyd as you do to Manny. I don't think that's possible on this site. People defend Manny no matter what he does.

I'm pretty sure the JMM fight was at a catchweight... Ok, that's one in a 41 fight career. Mayweather fought Zab Judah after getting beat by Carlos Baldomir. JMM and Floyd fought at a catchweight, which Floyd didn't make anyways. Apply the same standard to Floyd as you do to Manny. I said knockout loss not decision loss, they are very different. Zab was coming off a close loss to Baldomir and Floyd fought him afterwards but he also beat Baldomir straight after that so your point is irrelevant. It's very different because Pacquiao fights the loser of fights and avoids fighting the winner. Wheras Floyd beat the winner and the loser. Floyd has had one catchweight fight with JMM. However JMM was coming up in weight meaning the catchweight didnt hurt his body. I don't want you saying JMM was small because fighters have came up from 135 to 147 and won big fights before. Marquez was in his prime coming off 2 wins over opponents who had previously never been knocked out before. What Pacquiao does is totally different. He fights people coming off knockout losses and makes them drain down to a catchweight. How can you call yourself the Welterweight champion when you make people fight at 145? How can you call yourself the Light-Middleweight champion when you make people fight at 150? Pacquiao is a catchweight champion who needs to make up his own rules to win fights. Floyd doesnt need to do this. He just beats the best at the real weight classes for the real belts. Over and over and over again.

Mayweather fought Zab Judah after getting beat by Carlos Baldomir. JMM and Floyd fought at a catchweight, which Floyd didn't make anyways. Apply the same standard to Floyd as you do to Manny.

I can't remember any other fighter getting so much credit for beating damaged opposition. My favorite fighter, Floyd Mayweather Jr is always called a "cherrypicker" on this forum but how many fighters has he fought coming off KO losses? How many catchweight fights has he had? How many vacant belts has he won? Zero. I'm pretty sure the JMM fight was at a catchweight...

PAC's All Time Greatness mentally raping the flomos. LOL!

LOL. Go cry to yo mama.

how about false advertisement by floyd jr?