Pacquiao hasn't faced anyone at 154
Margarito hasn't faced any contenders at 154.
This fight isnt taking place at 154.
The winner is a paper champ in every way, shape, and form.
That's Sergio Martinez's title.
The WBC stripped Martinez because they would make more money if different fighters held the 154 and 160 titles. They wanted to give the belt to Chavez Jr, but he cant make 154.
Sergio was looking to fight anyone at 154 or 160, but instead of either of them having the guts to accept his challenge, they face each other in a **** fight for another Pacman-sized payday.
They both get what they want: Pacquiao gets another easy world title, Margarito gets at least one last big payday.
What do boxing fans get?
Pacquiao-Margarito. A fight nobody wants. In a weight class neither of them have accomplished anything in. For a stripped world title.
And it's on Pay-Per-View. Thanks Bob.
neither Margarito or Manny should be fighting for that belt to be honest
Alfredo Angulo should be fighting someone for that belt, not even sure how in the hell Margarito is #1 on the WBC rankings when he was away for a year :nonono:
but Money Talks, I am sure Arum is gave them a nice "FEE" to make that fight for that title
just like don king did to get when he bough a win for alexander agaisnt kotelnik when he clearly lost by a minimum of 10 rounds...
Hopefully sh!t like this makes people stop mentioning title by name of the organization and just call tham an alphabet belt.
7 titles?
I don't know about you, but I don't rate a win over David Diaz highly. The only thing a title means, is that you beat a top contender in that weight class, sometimes not even that cough*Andre Berto*cough. I don't know about you, but I'm not gonna let these *aggots keep telling me who's a champion and who isn't. Fukc them and their titles.
Pacquiao has been a champion in 4 weightclasses and will still be a champion in 4 weight classes after the Margarito fight.
Pac's a good fighter, but still a hype job. His 7th title against Cotto was also for a paper belt at a catcheweight. This time around it's the same thing, a paper belt at a catchweight against an opponent who had a one year layoff and was totally destroyed by Mosley. See a pettern? Cotto was destroyed by Margo and IMO lost to Clottey--->either way he took alot of punishment and was cut severely back to back and then Pac fought him at a catchweight shortly thereafter.
Whilst i think it's despicable a belt will be on the line here, Margarito is still a viable opponent for Pac and the fight will do numbers for various reasons i won't get into here. I just can't stand Pac fans who put him on pedestal and say he doesn't fight for money----> it's baloney. Pac is a fraud. I'll take the guy who's upfront and honest anytime over the one who spouts nothing but empty platitudes when his actions suggest something else entirely. OST = good for boxing-----> Pac wan't no part of it. Cheaters = bad for boxing----> Pac is giving Margo his biggest payday one year after he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
Pac and Floyd are cut from the same cloth. These 2 are more alike than you dip****s realise. The only real difference is that Floyd is a str8 shooter.
While I agree with some points made in this thread, such as why have a catchweight BUT I wonder if this would have been said by the same people if it was one of Floyd's opponents..... I'm talking about the Floyd fans who are posting here.
Check hook stated, how can Manny pick a guy who cheated and had a one year layoff. Well, for one thing, Margo recently fought at 154. I'd like to know if you or other Floyd fans said, "but Mosley was almost 39" or "Mosley hadn't fought in 1.35 years" or that "Mosley admitted not to long ago that he cheated by taking PED". Imagine, Floyd wants to clean up the sport then turns around and gives a PED cheater a fight and a big payday too boot!!!
Then Floyd's previous fight was against a guy who didn't belong at 147.... Floyd was OK with catchweights and fighting a guy who really belonged, at the time, at 130 or at most 135. Title or no title, it was a big joke.
So the above are Floyd's 2 most recent fights and one can criticize them just like this fight between Manny vs Margo. Like I said, some of the posters here never said that about Floyd's 2 previous fights yet show up in this thread to say what they said.
Everybody knows the deal about this fight.
The question is: Whoever wins the 154lb belt, will they be staying at 154 and defend the title or will they vacate?
The only reason this fight would be worthwhile is if Margo knocks Manny out and calls out Floyd.
The chances of that happening are slim and none. And Slim is on vacation with Floyd.
Then again, what do we know? Those who expect Manny to win will simply get what they and everybody else expected. Those who expect Margo to win will be praying with crossed fingers, eyes, and toes that he pulls off a miracle.
It's a shame a more meaningful fight is not taking place at that gorgeous Cowboys Stadium. At least the Texas fans will have a reason to visit the stadium with their friends and fams.
belts are totally worthless nowadays, and this is another example of such. And also this whole new stat for Pacquiao is garbage. 'blah blah blah weight class champion', bah. stupid.
Its a legitimate fight, but I admit the circumstances around it are dumb.
neither Margarito or Manny should be fighting for that belt to be honest
Alfredo Angulo should be fighting someone for that belt, not even sure how in the hell Margarito is #1 on the WBC rankings when he was away for a year :nonono:
but Money Talks, I am sure Arum is gave them a nice "FEE" to make that fight for that title
Anyone who says Pac is just a bumbling brawler with no skills that cheats to win doesn't follow Pac's career and sounds jealous. Pac is one of the best boxers and most accomplished boxers of all time..get over it, there is no way to erase his accomplishments..
Truth!.
Haters have just been waiting for a moment like this to let it all out.. sad part is that it hasn't stopped for the past year or so.
Anyone who says Pac is just a bumbling brawler with no skills that cheats to win doesn't follow Pac's career and sounds jealous. Pac is one of the best boxers and most accomplished boxers of all time..get over it, there is no way to erase his accomplishments..
Pacquiao hasn't faced anyone at 154
Margarito hasn't faced any contenders at 154.
This fight isnt taking place at 154.
The winner is a paper champ in every way, shape, and form.
That's Sergio Martinez's title.
The WBC stripped Martinez because they would make more money if different fighters held the 154 and 160 titles. They wanted to give the belt to Chavez Jr, but he cant make 154.
Sergio was looking to fight anyone at 154 or 160, but instead of either of them having the guts to accept his challenge, they face each other in a **** fight for another Pacman-sized payday.
They both get what they want: Pacquiao gets another easy world title, Margarito gets at least one last big payday.
What do boxing fans get?
Pacquiao-Margarito. A fight nobody wants. In a weight class neither of them have accomplished anything in. For a stripped world title.
And it's on Pay-Per-View. Thanks Bob.
Well,Margo is number 1 contender for the WBC title beating the so called "tomato can" contender Garcia who has a not so can record of 28-2,and because he already beat Cintron twice who was highly ranked by the WBC at 154.
Martinez is the middleweight champ now.
A Marg Pac is way more worthy for the WBC 154 title than a Cintron-Angulo.
So there is nothing wrong,except his 8th title will be a vacant title at a catchweight.
Here are my problems.
Yeah, lets make this a race thing because its funny because I'm not even black. :dance:
Your logic is racist, you question somebody's ability without looking through his past fights and records. The haters question manny's ability on how he was able to do it and dominate this big welters, the answer man is in manny's big fighting heart. Manny was a last minute replacement for the Ledwaba fight just giving manny 21days to prepare and train. He went in and completely dominated ledwaba, and then he did the same thing to barrera. Manny was doing the same thing even before DLH, Hatton, Cotto or Clottey, so even at the lower weights manny already has tremendous guts to challenge the big guys and fight a fight he can loose...
SERGIO MARTINEZ LEFT and faught pwilliams and pavlik at 159 therefore he loses the belt in lightmiddleweight, last time he faught was over a year
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Fighters don't need these useless belt organizations anymore. Your the best fighter to hold this belt as long as you pay us a percentage of your purse. Once a fighter gets a name they have no use for these organizations. Those belts have less value then the WWE Championship belt. Who you have beaten should define what type of fighter you are not which belt organizations you are able to afford to pay.
Because you can magically move up in weight an maintain speed and power. We live in the land of make-believe, anythings possible. Yeah, just eat healthy plus train hard and you can still be fast as **** and knock out WW's.
So i guess you believe roger when he said that 45 caliber bullets where bouncing of pinoy warrior's ass bacause of A-Side-Meth. What a bunch of looneys, I could accuse the mayweathers of being racist on us asians, they just can't f****ingg believe that a midget asian can do the step ladder from 106-147 and dominate. In their minds and maybe in yours too, only the black-americans has that special skills to do it, like ray robinson and armstrong, nobody even asked the question if these legends were using this A-Side-Meth....
Funny thing is Martinez would school both these guys to!
you know what? I really believe Margarito vs Martinez would be interesting to watch. Now I'm not saying Tony would win or Martinez would win, but I truly believe the way to beat Martinez is to put an unbelievable amount of pressure on him.
The way he tired against Williams was very very similar to the way he tired against Margarito in their first fight. The only difference is Margarito jumped on him and put him away (via TKO stoppage). Just some food for thought.....
Because you can magically move up in weight an maintain speed and power. We live in the land of make-believe, anythings possible. Yeah, just eat healthy plus train hard and you can still be fast as **** and knock out WW's.
LOL!!! Bitter much?...:dance: