What fight are you REALLY sure was fixed?

What does Williams have to do with Pascal vs. Hopkins? How come no one can have a conversation with Burner without Paul Williams comming up?

There have been a few fights that ended on punches that I swear never landed, but I'll mention the last one that I would have sworn was rigged but wasnt. I was one of those people (seems very, very dumb to say now) that was positive Oscar threw the fight against Pac. Oscar had faced some great guys, fast guys, and big guys. He fought well against them all. Then all the sudden he turns into a human punching bag against a midget. Well...it turns out Manny really did just beat his ass. Oscar was obviously past it from how much he got hit in the Forbes fight, but he had no idea what Manny was going to bring that night.

paul williams sucks....whats so hard to beleive about that son What does Williams have to do with Pascal vs. Hopkins?

Exactly....... paul williams sucks....whats so hard to beleive about that son

Thread should have been called Fights that you know were fixed that people have not been repeatedly talked about already.

What's so hard to believe about that? Exactly.......

he is a dumb ass. he said hopkins will shut out pascal :pat: What's so hard to believe about that?

You are the weirdest dude, sometimes you have really insightful perspective to offer, and sometimes you're a dumbass... Either way, you're always entertaining. he is a dumb ass. he said hopkins will shut out pascal :pat:

Oscar-Hopkins for me. Clottey-Pacquiao looks suspicious as well but Im not sold on it lik the Oscar-Hopkins bout. You are the weirdest dude, sometimes you have really insightful perspective to offer, and sometimes you're a dumbass... Either way, you're always entertaining.

im convinced clottey-pac was fixed cotto goes life and death with clottey then he has great fight with pac then when clottey fights him he SUCKS!

Q, you're dead-on but the biggest payouts always occur in the conference room, not the casino. Yeah, but Uncle Sam can't take a cut out of gambling my dude. You get my plan going and you make more than whatever you can make off of 5 Pacquiao fights.

I think, with out a shadow of a doubt, that the Oscar De La Hoya vs Felix Trinidad fight was determined well before the two entered the ring.... Please elaborate. What was the motivation if there was never a rematch?

mayweather - mosley mosley suddenly got tired after almost KD mayweather.. definitely fixed mosley had floyd on queer street. all he had to do was get in range, let his hands go, and get the W. so mosley got floyd against the ropes, got in range, and... ...hugged floyd, wtf. I'm not completely sold on it, but it does look suspicious. understandable, if true. no way shane and gbp would flush away a lucrative pac-may fight if they could help it. i'm not saying anything though, i'm just saying. knowutimsaying?

Of course they do stupid, but not in thrown fights where the result is known beforehand. Fukc Pacquiao-Mayweather when you can make millions rigging a fight for an underdog to win. If Arum put 1 million or even thousands of dollars on Clottey winning by KO and/or in a round in different sportsbooks in Las Vegas, Atlantic City, and the net... he would've made a lot more than what he's going to get for Mayweather-Pacquiao. You might want to take a look at the odds and payouts, before talking out of your ass. Try again Q, you're dead-on but the biggest payouts always occur in the conference room, not the casino.

Underdogs win all the time, first of all. Secondly, you rig a fight in Pacmans favor regardless of his opponent because you have the biggest fight ever against FLoyd on the horizon. Try again Of course they do stupid, but not in thrown fights where the result is known beforehand. Fukc Pacquiao-Mayweather when you can make millions rigging a fight for an underdog to win. If Arum put 1 million or even thousands of dollars on Clottey winning by KO and/or in a round in different sportsbooks in Las Vegas, Atlantic City, and the net... he would've made a lot more than what he's going to get for Mayweather-Pacquiao. You might want to take a look at the odds and payouts, before talking out of your ass. Try again

Yeah..whatever Someone is just suspiciously for no reason what so ever yelling "body shot" and then hopkins nails oscar with a shot that even the announcers were spoofed at. The punch itself was so week that the glove didn't even fold under any pressure upon contact and oscars skin barely even moved to indicate there was being enough force to damage the kidney. Then he rolls around perfectly fine and curses at himself before not trying to beat the count, then doesn't beat the count ,and stands right up instead of taking a stool. The list of things that were wrong with that FIX go on and on.. not to mention the ROBBERY did to Felix Sturm the fight before just in order to allow the fix to happen and announce their partnership afterward. Yeah, everything about that was fishy. And I know Hopkins is a slow starter, but the way the De La Hoya fight unfolded was seriously odd to me. It was in the early rounds that I started getting that gnawing feeling that something was wrong. The sequence of events from rounds 8-9 were just...wtf? Idk. And then they became partners, weeks (literally) later. They didn't sign a deal in two weeks, fellas. That takes a little more time to iron out the specifics. Obviously, Hopkins needed a payday. And that's the only reason the fight was made. And losing to a much bigger, stronger, and better Bernard wasn't going to hurt Oscar's stature in any way. But a highly motivated Bernard (this was the biggest fight of his career, right?) would've put them thangs on Oscar something awful. Sh*t, a not so motivated Bernard would've done that. Instead, Oscar was spared a serious beating, Bernard got his payday and everyone was happy.

Ali Liston 2.

Clottey could have done more to Pac. Shane could have done more to Floyd. Pac & Floyd MUST WIN on both fights in order to fight each other. Therefore, both could be fixed by the greedy promoters. :headbang:

Anybody looking at Tyson vs Seldon on slomo replay were immediately claiming it was fixed. It's more likely a case of Seldon being afraid to of getting hit, but most folks believe he took a dive on purpose.