Hey guys i want a proper debate on who is the more superior between Juan Manuel Marquez and Marco Antonio Barrera and hear peoples genuine opinions.
Its a toss up for me but I think id have to favour Marquez but maybe because I have seen fight from him.
Ill post youtube clips of both to help yas judge better. Thanks again guy it will be interesting to see the results of the Poll
Please guys no mention of pac or floyd please im sick of it at this stage
honestly, again i love JMM, but his outboxing ability is overrated......JMM is a gifted counterpuncher, and pretty much a precision gun whenever he throws, but the dude is slow on his feet and his stance leaves him wide open to punches down the middle and jabs.....thats why barrera gave him hell with his jab, getting off first, and footwork (barrera was a considerable bit more faded than Marquez)
like i said, i hate barrera, but seriously, the fact that boxing fans act as if JMM is way better just because his accomplishments are more recent, baffles me...(and the fact that they eat HBO commentary.....not because Jim Lampley says JMM is a great outboxer, means he really is....if anything, id say JMM is a midrange fighter....)
and really using Pacquiao as a measuring stick is all kinds of retarded...
i hate barrera, but i respect the **** out of his skills, i love JMM, he is like my 3rd fave boxer ever.......
if JMM hadnt done his **** more recently, everyone would say Barrera....and if we go by resume, Barrera is clearly superior.....
wins over McKinney, Morales 2x, Hamed are better than JMM's entire resume....
that said, i had JMM winning both Pac fights, so considering that, i have them even....
most people overrating JMM because of the 2 very close fights against Manny. if Manny wasnt as good as he is now nobody would even talk about him being one of the best mexican boxer. i dont hate JMM, i like the guy but Barrera in his prime was way better than JMM. Barrera was shot, old, had been to a lot of wars specially against Morales 3 times and Pacquiao 2 times when he faced JMM. he fought a prime JMM but many people thought Barrera won the fight. it could have gone either way.
For me, personally, Marquez is better than Barrera and Morales. It has nothing to do with numbers, or belts, or resume, I just like him more and his boxing style is better than theirs imo.
Morales outdid Marquez in his own style, when he fought Pacquiao the first time(before he was shot).
a faded Barrera came very close to beating much more near-prime Marquez.
and its like people forget that Marquez lost to Norwood and Chris John. They just write them off as 'oh those were robberies', when in fact they were both close fights that Marquez very well may have really lost.
He certainly struggled with them, thats for sure.
I really like Marquez and his style too, but the guy just is NOT better than Morales and Barrera. maybe, just maybe you could make a case for Marquez>Barrera, but no possible way is he better than Morales.
This is hard, because it is a well rounded question, as far as legacy Barrera would get the nod, but as far as pure boxing skill JMM would get it an here is y, wat Jmm did against a prime Manny is unbelieveable, there 1st fight they fought, the heart an skill he used was crazy, 2nd fight he show wat he could really do an i felt he won that fight, but I think if you were to put barrera n the same position he would hav lost the 1st fight n lost possible lost the second fight. I havent voted due to the fact that both fighters are great fighters but its just a matter of wat u mean by great. Lagacy or Pure Boxing Skills?
Seriously anyone who rates JMM over Morales and MAB knows f#ck all about boxing.
JMM fought bums during the 90s while Morales and MAB were building their legacy. If you look at the number of world champions JMM has defeated its less than MAB and Morales. Theres no doubt both MAB and Morales beat JMM in their primes also.
and BANG there u go!
For me it's also a question of Barrera or Morales. I love em both!
But Barrera in his prime, and as a young slugger, man o man what a fighter!! That left hook was absolutely vicious!
Oh and nicknames don't get much better than Barrera's :D
I think Barrera has done more but overall I think JMM is the better fighter but the whole thing is JMM is still going strong so he could end up in front all around
Seriously anyone who rates JMM over Morales and MAB knows f#ck all about boxing.
JMM fought bums during the 90s while Morales and MAB were building their legacy. If you look at the number of world champions JMM has defeated its less than MAB and Morales. Theres no doubt both MAB and Morales beat JMM in their primes also.
Imo, in Marquez's 2 fights against Pacquiao, he looked better than Barrera and Morales did in their fights against Pacquiao. Yes even in Morales win against Pacquiao. Barrera and Morales will never look as good at LW than Marquez has. I also think Marquez would look way better against the Raheem Morales fought, he'd do way better against Junior Jones than Barrera did, and neither Morales or Barrera would go the distance with Mayweather at WW. Marquez is plain out better.
For me, personally, Marquez is better than Barrera and Morales. It has nothing to do with numbers, or belts, or resume, I just like him more and his boxing style is better than theirs imo.
How the hell is Marquez winning this poll?
Name one win Marquez has that can be compared to Morales or Hamed. Barrera is clearly a greater fighter. Marquez is a hell of a fighter but his best freaking win is either Juan Diaz or Casamoyer.
EM>MAB>JMM.
thought thats Common knowledge.
we created this boxing formula a time ago when Mangler, jes, the Mangler, was present on NSB.
youre all boon's.
and that means he really lost too..lol yes im being sarcastic.
were u high that night?
i bet 200 on Barrera that night..when the final bell rang..my uncle who bet against me..walked off made and screaming that he had to pay me $200...then the decision came..it was a close fight..but Barrera dominated that fight and his boxing abilities outshined Marquez's that night...
Barrera is the better boxer..he could brawl,box,counter...Marquez can really only counter and box some what...he really disappointed me vs mayweather...did absolutely nothing.
Bump!!!! Ill have to watch more Barrera fights so lads, i personnally love the Naz fight aswel
i think barrera will go down as the greater fighter. unless jmm can win a title at 140lb. i like both but probably prefer barrera for what he did to naseem
You just contradicted yourself....
Marquez fights vs Pac stand alone as far as his greatness is concerned. You can never take anything away from those fights and even in a dec loss, JMM solidified his greatness in those fights against a prime Pac who walked through Barrera and Morales who weren't far off the age of JMM. (even though I would agree were past it)
JMM is NOT overrated, he is a great, great boxer who wasn't born with the power or speed other fighters were born with and yet has managed to be great because of his intelligence and technical skill in the ring.
I agree wholeheartedly, Marquez is a great fighter, I love to watch him. His fights with Pacquiao were outstanding. I think hes still probably one of the most purely skilled fighters in the ring today. But hes still overrated, as shown in this poll that has him above Barrera.
its like people forget the fact that his best win is Juan Diaz. Juan is a really good fighter. but he sure as hell isnt as good a win as Kennedy McKinney, Morales III, or Naseem Hamed. and half of Marquez's other 'good' wins Barrera actually already beat, often before Marquez did. Juarez, Peden, and Sanchez for example. Even Barrera's throwaway wins like Fana look pretty good in hindsight.
Marquez is a great fighter. but when you compare their career accomplishments and even head to head matchup, I kind of dont understand how you can have Marquez above Barrera.
Who's greater...
I'd probably have to say Barrera, but it's a close one.
I think having win's over (a hugely overrated) Hamad and the great Morales. Probably just about gives him the edge.
But I love both fighters, both had great skill and didn't might slugging it out for a few rounds.
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