Marquez, weighing 142 against Floyd, had none of the speed, reflexes, or power that allowed him to fight Pacquiao the way he did at 126 and 130. Whereas Pacquiao hasn't lost that much moving up, Marquez loses everything that allowed him to counter Pac's speed and power.
Weight had EVERYTHING to do with Floyd vs. JMM. Floyd is a great welterweight. JMM is a bad welterweight. Same situation with Pac, Pac would show him respect for a round or two and as soon as he realized Marquez was much slower, had no power, and was not able to counter him like he did before, Pac would destroy him.
he lost speed I agree but not reflexes he was fighting with a different game plane against Mayweather JMM was stalking and trying to pressure Floyd you should not use that fight as an example of how a Pacquiao fight would be
he will still be able to time and counter Manny even tho JMM conditioning wont be the same
Sasakul was a Thai slick fighter. Not black, but since he is not black does that mean he is not slick?
I never seen that fight so I can't say if he is or is not a slick fighter..If he is(Im gonna try to find some tape on it)I stand corrected but the fact is he has never fought a slick fighter at this level..I'm interested to see hos he does..
Floyd did not overpower Marquez wieght had nothing to do with the outcome of PBF vs JMM
why people keep bringing this up Manny always had the power and speed advantage stylistically Marquez would still give him some problems
Marquez, weighing 142 against Floyd, had none of the speed, reflexes, or power that allowed him to fight Pacquiao the way he did at 126 and 130. Whereas Pacquiao hasn't lost that much moving up, Marquez loses everything that allowed him to counter Pac's speed and power.
Weight had EVERYTHING to do with Floyd vs. JMM. Floyd is a great welterweight. JMM is a bad welterweight. Same situation with Pac, Pac would show him respect for a round or two and as soon as he realized Marquez was much slower, had no power, and was not able to counter him like he did before, Pac would destroy him.
If anyone thinks Marquez at 144 isn't taken out in 6 rounds or less, you clearly didn't pay enough attention to what Floyd did to him.
Margarito at least has a remote possibility of being competitive.
Floyd did not overpower Marquez wieght had nothing to do with the outcome of PBF vs JMM
why people keep bringing this up Manny always had the power and speed advantage stylistically Marquez would still give him some problems
If anyone thinks Marquez at 144 isn't taken out in 6 rounds or less, you clearly didn't pay enough attention to what Floyd did to him.
Margarito at least has a remote possibility of being competitive.
I only put Black slick fighter cause I feel Bradley and Mayweather are the only fights that seem dangerous to me.Guzman is nowhere in the same ballpark as Bradley let alone Mayweather.What slick fighters has Pacmonster fought??Not Marquez or Morales they are not slick boxers.Casamayor is a slick boxer and he did not fight him.All I'm saying is it's time we seen what he could do with fighter like Margas and Marquez..
Sasakul was a Thai slick fighter. Not black, but since he is not black does that mean he is not slick?
He hasn't fought any black americans but I can name slick fighters he has fought.
As for black do you mean African American? If so Joan Guzman has a pretty slick style. He is black just not black American but does that even matter?
I only put Black slick fighter cause I feel Bradley and Mayweather are the only fights that seem dangerous to me.Guzman is nowhere in the same ballpark as Bradley let alone Mayweather.What slick fighters has Pacmonster fought??Not Marquez or Morales they are not slick boxers.Casamayor is a slick boxer and he did not fight him.All I'm saying is it's time we seen what he could do with fighter like Margas and Marquez..
1.Can you name a time when Manny fought a slick black fighter?Or better yet a black American fighter at all.( which means no Clottey)
2.Can you name a Slick fighter from 140lb to 147lb who is not black??
3.I'm not a Floyd fan I respect him and think he is a great boxer but not a fanboy buddy get it right...
He hasn't fought any black americans but I can name slick fighters he has fought.
As for black do you mean African American? If so Joan Guzman has a pretty slick style. He is black just not black American but does that even matter?
if he fights marquez again it shuld be at 138-140 tops. rather see him fight a top 140lber like bradley but at the jww limit
TBH That's the fight I would most like to see after the Mayweather fight.Timmy B vs Pac at 140lb or 147lb is a great fight.
It has to be a slick BLACK fighter.
Can't just be a slick fighter period?
Floyd fans :pat: :nonono:
1.Can you name a time when Manny fought a slick black fighter?Or better yet a black American fighter at all.( which means no Clottey)
2.Can you name a Slick fighter from 140lb to 147lb who is not black??
3.I'm not a Floyd fan I respect him and think he is a great boxer but not a fanboy buddy get it right...
Mayweather or Timmy B at 147lb time to fight a slick black fighter Manny...
It has to be a slick BLACK fighter.
Can't just be a slick fighter period?
Floyd fans :pat: :nonono:
Marquez deserves the fight more...
But, the tougher challenge and the more entertaining fight would be Margarito at 150.
JMM at 144 is a complete mismatch, not even close.
Id rather see JMM vs Pac @ any weight. For these two to not have a trilogy would be disappointing.
thats how I feel Manny never really beat JMM and since he is past prime right now but coming from a good win this is the time to make the fight happen
why a flomo like you would want to know? would you ever consider watching any of those matchup? Unlike Pac fans, Floyd fans watch other boxing matches to....
ts is just trying to justify floyd's cherrypicking of marquez when he fought him at ww.....but people dont forget about floyd's ducking of margo.....margo is the better challenge! Dude, you got owned.... Now you're buttHurt, lol...... Stop throwing Floyds name in a non Floyd thread.... I swear you sleep in a Manny Pacquiao oneZy:bottle: Boxing booties attached..
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