Erislandy Lara...A Future World Champ & P4P Entry?

As much as I love wlads jab, it's pretty 1 dimensional. It's great, and controls the entire fight, it wins the fight.. but it doesn't come from all the angles that Sergiys does, it doesn't have the odd timing sergiy has on his with it, and he doesn't do the pretty things like counter from slips and pivots with it either. Sergiy is just much more diverse with it. overall it may not be more "effective" than wlads, but IMO it's more skilled. Wlads jab is effective because it's powerful. Sergiys is effective because it's skilled. That's how I tend to look at it. As for Sergiy fights, www.worldboxingvideoarchive.com Takes maybe 60 seconds to get an account up and going, Search for Sergiy. Not sure how many fights they have of his up now, since a lot of sites seem take down videos now a days, but that's where I've seen all of his fights. Agree to disagree on best jab. I don't look down on you thinking Dzinziruk's is the best. I'm already on WBVA, and have already snagged all of his fights. Thanks though. :D

I do think that Wladimir Klitschko has a better jab. It actually 100% wins fights for him and hurts people. I think it was more of a right hook that took Santos down. Even so... he is SUCH an excellent talent. I think he beats Martinez at 154, but loses to Williams. He doesn't have the movement to deal with Williams's size and activity, and will just get outworked. Do you have a bunch of Dzinziruk fights? I'm trying to get my hands on as many as I can. As much as I love wlads jab, it's pretty 1 dimensional. It's great, and controls the entire fight, it wins the fight.. but it doesn't come from all the angles that Sergiys does, it doesn't have the odd timing sergiy has on his with it, and he doesn't do the pretty things like counter from slips and pivots with it either. Sergiy is just much more diverse with it. overall it may not be more "effective" than wlads, but IMO it's more skilled. Wlads jab is effective because it's powerful. Sergiys is effective because it's skilled. That's how I tend to look at it. As for Sergiy fights, www.worldboxingvideoarchive.com Takes maybe 60 seconds to get an account up and going, Search for Sergiy. Not sure how many fights they have of his up now, since a lot of sites seem take down videos now a days, but that's where I've seen all of his fights.

Not sure why I was ever 0 :(, But I've followed Sirgey for a while and there could be a bit of bias when I decide a victor for him vs but it's warranted. The best jab in the sport right now and it isn't even arguable. He leads well with it, he counters well with it.. he took Santoz clean off his feet with it and almost killed Bayram with it.. 2 men who previously hadn't been phased even by more powerful punches from more powerful men. Great size, great defense both in blocking and moving his head. Keeps his hands right and always controls the center of the ring. The real deal IMO. Beats everyone at 154 at this stage (since martinez is a perma MW now?) mainly because he controls the cener of the ring so well, and everyone at 154 right now (worth mentioning, at least) are all guys who prefer to move forward, not back. just my opinion, of course. I do think that Wladimir Klitschko has a better jab. It actually 100% wins fights for him and hurts people. I think it was more of a right hook that took Santos down. Even so... he is SUCH an excellent talent. I think he beats Martinez at 154, but loses to Williams. He doesn't have the movement to deal with Williams's size and activity, and will just get outworked. Do you have a bunch of Dzinziruk fights? I'm trying to get my hands on as many as I can.

Wow, I didn't realize my karma stick could do so much good work. You went form 0 to 5 for saying something intelligent about Dzinziruk. Congratulations. Not sure why I was ever 0 :(, But I've followed Sirgey for a while and there could be a bit of bias when I decide a victor for him vs but it's warranted. The best jab in the sport right now and it isn't even arguable. He leads well with it, he counters well with it.. he took Santoz clean off his feet with it and almost killed Bayram with it.. 2 men who previously hadn't been phased even by more powerful punches from more powerful men. Great size, great defense both in blocking and moving his head. Keeps his hands right and always controls the center of the ring. The real deal IMO. Beats everyone at 154 at this stage (since martinez is a perma MW now?) mainly because he controls the cener of the ring so well, and everyone at 154 right now (worth mentioning, at least) are all guys who prefer to move forward, not back. just my opinion, of course.

Wow, I didn't realize my karma stick could do so much good work. You went form 0 to 5 for saying something intelligent about Dzinziruk. Congratulations. hahahaha :boxing:

Is this a sad joke? Sergiy would seriously hurt Lara. He's top 3 at 154 right now easily, imo. Anyone who actually knows their **** knows this. Wow, I didn't realize my karma stick could do so much good work. You went form 0 to 5 for saying something intelligent about Dzinziruk. Congratulations.

im pretty sure Lara beats the guy in your sig right now.... Is this a sad joke? Sergiy would seriously hurt Lara. He's top 3 at 154 right now easily, imo. Anyone who actually knows their **** knows this.

...and hes your fave of the cuban ??? OMG :killyou: yes. he is. when hes on, his style's beautiful to watch. OMG, i can be critical of fighters i like as well. what a crazy fckin concept?!!!

Are you or have you been a world champ? If you want to be a smart ass, then yes i have :rolleyes:.

future world champ? yes...anyone can become a champion, future p4p entry? no. Are you or have you been a world champ?

i really like lara. he's my fave of the cuban contenders. hes a future champ no doubt, but i think his potential is limited by his physical attributes. hes got average size. his hand speed is above average, but nothing amazing. his power isnt all that good (dont let last night's KO fool u). he can be maneuvered around becuz he's fairly flat footed. his defense is solid. he blocks a lot of punches but he's not a moving target and he can be found, especially when he goes into his shell. he is extremely skilled, his timing is impeccable and has great accuracy, but like i said, his potential is a bit limited. ...and hes your fave of the cuban ??? OMG :killyou:

i really like lara. he's my fave of the cuban contenders. hes a future champ no doubt, but i think his potential is limited by his physical attributes. hes got average size. his hand speed is above average, but nothing amazing. his power isnt all that good (dont let last night's KO fool u). he can be maneuvered around becuz he's fairly flat footed. his defense is solid. he blocks a lot of punches but he's not a moving target and he can be found, especially when he goes into his shell. he is extremely skilled, his timing is impeccable and has great accuracy, but like i said, his potential is a bit limited.

future world champ? yes...anyone can become a champion, future p4p entry? no.

same for you Lol, okay, now... I certainly don't know what you are getting at with this comment.

Good luck with that. He better be 100% focused, or he is going to be feasting on jab after jab all night. It's tough for a fighter like him to beat a super experienced fighter with an excellent jab, when he has so few pro fights himself. same for you

im pretty sure Lara beats the guy in your sig right now.... Good luck with that. He better be 100% focused, or he is going to be feasting on jab after jab all night. It's tough for a fighter like him to beat a super experienced fighter with an excellent jab, when he has so few pro fights himself.

We still don't know what we are getting with him. Sometimes he looks pretty good, but not great... he'll be a solid champion, but won't ever really break out. Other times, he looks excellent in the ring, and like he'll obviously be a P4P fighter. We'll see how it pans out after he fights a few top level guys. im pretty sure Lara beats the guy in your sig right now....

We still don't know what we are getting with him. Sometimes he looks pretty good, but not great... he'll be a solid champion, but won't ever really break out. Other times, he looks excellent in the ring, and like he'll obviously be a P4P fighter. We'll see how it pans out after he fights a few top level guys.

he will be a top5 in his division for a long time....but top10 pxp is too much....he will be a solid champ tho

One of the many decent Cuban prospects on the rise, hopefully he'll be Champ, he got the talent.