I am a boxing fan,which includes Pacman,but I just don't by him getting a title at 154 by fighting Margarito at a catchweight!!I've always criticized Floyd for taking the easiest fights possible & avoiding prime elite fighters,so now I feel that Pacman is doing the same!!There are qualified elite fighters at 154,who have been campaining their & are more worthy of a title fight in that weight class,I don't see why Bob Arum can get away with having 2 fighters,neither 1 a champ,fighting for a title when there are more suitable 154 pounders there!!
Miguel Cotto went to 154 & fought & beat a champ,why does a percieved better fighter than he get to fight Margarito for a title in that weight class??I truly believe that a fight with Cintron,Angulo,the Punisher or Martinez,"the European too",does more for his legacy than a cheater who is nothing at 154 ever could!!Please boxing fans,convince why I'm wrong,thank U!!
crazy thing in boxing happens when the best fight the best people want to watch it. I know I know, crazy talk right? But it's true.
Just because a fighter isn't a big attraction on his own doesn't mean he wouldn't do well with a certain other fighter. This is a perfect example of that.
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As for this whole PAC Floyd thing at the end of the day there both business men, and like it's been mentioned b4 they both fight for the highest reward and lowest risk.
Thanks man!!
Di bushbaby, first of all u got a cute ass daughter
As for this whole PAC Floyd thing at the end of the day there both business men, and like it's been mentioned b4 they both fight for the highest reward and lowest risk.
I am a boxing fan,which includes Pacman,but I just don't by him getting a title at 154 by fighting Margarito at a catchweight!!I've always criticized Floyd for taking the easiest fights possible & avoiding prime elite fighters,so now I feel that Pacman is doing the same!!There are qualified elite fighters at 154,who have been campaining their & are more worthy of a title fight in that weight class,I don't see why Bob Arum can get away with having 2 fighters,neither 1 a champ,fighting for a title when there are more suitable 154 pounders there!!
Miguel Cotto went to 154 & fought & beat a champ,why does a percieved better fighter than he get to fight Margarito for a title in that weight class??I truly believe that a fight with Cintron,Angulo,the Punisher or Martinez,"the European too",does more for his legacy than a cheater who is nothing at 154 ever could!!Please boxing fans,convince why I'm wrong,thank U!!
That's the problem with boxing now, look at Dawson who was fighting grandpa's and was surprise by Pascal speed and power. Floyd is another example, Mosley is way past prime, i don't even recognize him when he's fighting now, he use to be twice as good. What's the point for Floyd to fight that old man... IMO Margarito shouldn't be allowed to boxe anymore. If someone would hurt me in the ring with bricks in his gloves, i would hate that guy for the rest of my life, there is no excuse for that.
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hey he's supposed to be the best at 154 he's fighting for a damn title !
You mean the best as when Modern Talking come visit you in your LA south central.
would you risk losing 10-20m on hoping it sells well?
thinks is margo fight is a disgrace but he has a huge mexican fan base....that means it will sell very well as pac can generate 700k on his own and margo will generate around 200k at least. plus them two put together will generate an extra 100-200k in buys from casual fans
Fighting martinez isnt fair, pac is a small light welter...martinez is a proper 160 fighter....
If he's too small for 154,then stay out,don't fight unworthy fighters & call it a championship fight,come on man!!I'll bet my membership that Martinez would have accepted a catchweight just to fight Manny!!Pacman vs any fighter will sell,but vs a real 154 pounder will sell more!!Look how much he sold vs Clottey!!
would you risk losing 10-20m on hoping it sells well?
thinks is margo fight is a disgrace but he has a huge mexican fan base....that means it will sell very well as pac can generate 700k on his own and margo will generate around 200k at least. plus them two put together will generate an extra 100-200k in buys from casual fans
Fighting martinez isnt fair, pac is a small light welter...martinez is a proper 160 fighter....
haha pactards are funny.. i bet there were plenty of u who bashed floyd for caring bout the money and plenty who said that pacquiao fights for pride not for money haha :D
I just don't by that,Pacman fighting the Punisher,or Martinez or Angulo will sell majorly,I agree the Punisher doesn't have that much fans,but he is well known to fight fans & unjustly hated & called overrated,so most fight fans would pay to see if Manny can punish the Punisher,there is no doubt in my mind that that fight sells a lot!!
would you risk losing 10-20m on hoping it sells well?
thinks is margo fight is a disgrace but he has a huge mexican fan base....that means it will sell very well as pac can generate 700k on his own and margo will generate around 200k at least. plus them two put together will generate an extra 100-200k in buys from casual fans
Fighting martinez isnt fair, pac is a small light welter...martinez is a proper 160 fighter....
Because he shouldn't even be fighting guys at 154. He should be fighting guys at 140 but no one want to see Pac fight at 140 anymore.
hey he's supposed to be the best at 154 he's fighting for a damn title !
nothing guaranteed, if pac wants 22.5m plus ppv sales, that means in reality the other guy will want to earn about 10m at least fighting pac as it will be a 60-40 or 70-30 split if pushing it.
You will need pac to fight someone who he can generate 1m ppv buys, top rank needs about that many buys badly as I would think around 800-900k would cover pacs purse, the guy he is fighting, hbo cut and everything else....
williams has been promoted crap, he hardly has any fans, thats the problem, he is a good fighter but what happens if only 700k or 800k buy the fight? top rank will either make millions in losses or just about break even
I just don't by that,Pacman fighting the Punisher,or Martinez or Angulo will sell majorly,I agree the Punisher doesn't have that much fans,but he is well known to fight fans & unjustly hated & called overrated,so most fight fans would pay to see if Manny can punish the Punisher,there is no doubt in my mind that that fight sells a lot!!
I am a boxing fan,which includes Pacman,but I just don't by him getting a title at 154 by fighting Margarito at a catchweight!!I've always criticized Floyd for taking the easiest fights possible & avoiding prime elite fighters,so now I feel that Pacman is doing the same!!There are qualified elite fighters at 154,who have been campaining their & are more worthy of a title fight in that weight class,I don't see why Bob Arum can get away with having 2 fighters,neither 1 a champ,fighting for a title when there are more suitable 154 pounders there!!
Miguel Cotto went to 154 & fought & beat a champ,why does a percieved better fighter than he get to fight Margarito for a title in that weight class??I truly believe that a fight with Cintron,Angulo,the Punisher or Martinez,"the European too",does more for his legacy than a cheater who is nothing at 154 ever could!!Please boxing fans,convince why I'm wrong,thank U!!
wow ur asking to get brainwashed or what ?! wanna be as dumb as the pactards :DDD who say that no matter what pac does is good. check all the threads that these fools all of a sudden made bout how good of a fighter margarito is. Everything you wrote is true. Conclusion this fight is the easiest way for pacquie to become that 8 division champ. all he cares about is that it will look good on paper
If he's that good,why doesn't he fight a real 154 lber??
Because he shouldn't even be fighting guys at 154. He should be fighting guys at 140 but no one want to see Pac fight at 140 anymore.
It isnt legit. How are fighting for a WBC belt when pac has never fought at 154 and margarito doesnt deserve a title. It is obvious this fight is only being made to make pacquiao an 8 division champ.
There is no other choices for a championship fight at 154,really??
nothing guaranteed, if pac wants 22.5m plus ppv sales, that means in reality the other guy will want to earn about 10m at least fighting pac as it will be a 60-40 or 70-30 split if pushing it.
You will need pac to fight someone who he can generate 1m ppv buys, top rank needs about that many buys badly as I would think around 800-900k would cover pacs purse, the guy he is fighting, hbo cut and everything else....
williams has been promoted crap, he hardly has any fans, thats the problem, he is a good fighter but what happens if only 700k or 800k buy the fight? top rank will either make millions in losses or just about break even
First of all I also doesn't agree that the title should be put on the line if the fight is at 150lbs. Other than that, who could ever dream that Pacquiao would be fighting guys above 147 anyway. PAC is just that great. You talk about Cotto beating a real 154lbs fighter but when Arum was talking about feeding him to PAC, everybody was yelling he's no good for Pac also. PAC is just that good.
If he's that good,why doesn't he fight a real 154 lber??
First of all I also don't agree that the title should be put on the line if the fight is at 150lbs. Other than that, who could ever dream that Pacquiao would be fighting guys above 147 anyway. PAC is just that good. You talk about Cotto beating a real 154lbs fighter but when Arum was talking about feeding him to PAC, everybody was yelling he's no good for Pac also. No one is good enough for PAC except Mr. Vacation.