thats not overrating. boxers talk that way bout themselves all the time. if matthew hatton would be fighting mayweather he'd be yapping about how certain he's of winning.
lol. I'm only joking. I know the trash talking is a big part of boxing. I like Zab Judah and I want him to succeed at 140 but just to answer the question. I don't think he is overrated because he doesnt get anywhere near as much praise as some of the others on that list. The media doesnt hype him up. Zab has earned the credit he gets. Wheras Pacquiao gets much more credit than he deserves.
I don't understand why people pick Judah.
Like I said before. Nobody overrates him other than himself.
thats not overrating. boxers talk that way bout themselves all the time. if matthew hatton would be fighting mayweather he'd be yapping about how certain he's of winning.
Prime Mayorga was a monster.. Can't **** with a prime Mayorga. :D
lol. Mayorga was funny as hell. But I never understood why he would drop his hands and land powerful opponents like Oscar and Tito pound on him. It just seemed like he wasnt as focused as he should have been. When he was actually serious and focused like he was against Forrest, Vargas and Mosley. He performed well.
De La Hoya lost all his big fights, and he gets so much hype that I don't really think he deserves.
He didnt lose all of his big fights. You must remember that he had loads and loads of big fights. He did beat Genaro Hernandez, Julio Cesar Chavez (twice), Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Pernell Whitaker, Hector Camacho, Ike Quartey and Fernando Vargas. He became extremely popular but I don't think he was particuarly overrated. He fought just about everyone in his era and performed well even in defeat.
Pacquiao is the definition of an overrated fighter. The guy beats 2 guys coming off huge KO losses and suddenly he is a "Top 10 ATG". Even though he lost to the two best fighters who he fought. Erik Morales and Juan Manuel Marquez. Neither of which I consider to be an ATG.
If Oscar is overrated then sure as hell Tito is as well.
I think it said the last 10 years? Did it say the last 10 years? I am pretty sure it said the last 10 years. But, sure OK yea whatever you say.
Yes, Tito lost to Winky, but that was hardly a prime Tito. Let's be real here. That a whole 4 years after he lost to Hopkins.
The problem is that there are a lot of boxrec, legendary nights fans on here.
lol Pacquiao isnt overrated. He is an ATG.
Everybody is overrated/underrated depending on who is doing the rating.
But, in the list the winner is Judah, that dude is severely overrated, Oscar for the last 10 years overrated. And, Floyd nuthuggers and Pac nuthuggers overrated both fighters to the extreme. And, Floyd haters and Pac haters underrate both severely.
Tito at one point was overrated. I even overrated him. But, now if you look at a respectable top 50 ATG list you won't see Tito in it. He was overrated but when the Hopkins fight happened. It brought every back to earth. It happened to Roy also with the Tarver fight. Same thing will happen to Floyd when he meets his day.
But, the 2 fighters no matter how many times they lost there was always a but, what if, maybe, this and that always getting the benefit of the doubt by the fans were Oscar and Judah.
Originally Posted by Hyacinth
Pacquiao, as much as he is an overrated one dimensional midget, would beat the **** outta Trinidad. That's my logic with that. I mean, I remember Trinidad being some crazy boxing superstar...I never saw it. & PLEASE...I bet if I made a poll and asked who won the ODLH Tinidad fight the majority would pick Oscar. Come on man, you're acting like this is news to anyone..look at Tito's face during the fight..that dude KNOWS he was losing. Clearly defeated. ODLH gave that no skill having cornball a BOXING LESSON. Sh!t, he didn't even believe he won
Brawlers and punchers dont stand a chance against Tito. Tito loses when his opponent is a better boxer.I think he beats Manny.
Pacquiao, as much as he is an overrated one dimensional midget, would beat the **** outta Trinidad. That's my logic with that. I mean, I remember Trinidad being some crazy boxing superstar...I never saw it. & PLEASE...I bet if I made a poll and asked who won the ODLH Tinidad fight the majority would pick Oscar. Come on man, you're acting like this is news to anyone..look at Tito's face during the fight..that dude KNOWS he was losing. Clearly defeated. ODLH gave that no skill having cornball a BOXING LESSON. Sh!t, he didn't even believe he won.
An overrated one dimensional midget would beat the shit outta Tito? That is the logic your using?
You know what is overrated? The majority of Floyd fans knowledge of the sport. That is severely overrated.
Yes Pac would beat Tito at a catch-weight of 145. And, P4P everything naturally equal Pac might very well beat the shit out of Tito. But, at WW a natural WW in Tito with dynamic puncher power in both hands and a prime Tito who had the ability to slip punches and a jab a nice body punching before falling in love with his power would of beaten the much smaller not so one dimensional Pacquiao.
Too bad it was not a 6-7 round fight and it was actually a 12 round fight.
You right it doesn't matter what I say. But, lets go with what Oscar biggest cheerleader said. HBO had it a draw.
For the first 8 rounds Oscar was winning. He didn't win every single damn round like you making it out to be. You making it seem like it was a robbery GTFOH. It was a close fight that could of gone either way. But, there was 7 rounds that Tito had a case for winning.
I don't think ODH was robbed. I think He gave the fight away. He did what Sweet pea did against him. We can agree to disagree but ODH from rds 1-7 IMO maybe had 1 10-10 rd. He outboxed felix BADLY.
Its not that they underestimate him, its that he lost to the best of his era by stunningly wide margins IMO. Bernard destroyed him. No matter what jrosales says ODH beat him BAD for 6-7 rds. Winky destroyed him bad.
Too bad it was not a 6-7 round fight and it was actually a 12 round fight.
You right it doesn't matter what I say. But, lets go with what Oscar biggest cheerleader said. HBO had it a draw.
ODH ran and cost himself the fight. Sorry but he was giving Tito a lesson on what "boxing" is during the early rouds. Tito looked like he had no idea what to do.
For the first 8 rounds Oscar was winning. He didn't win every single damn round like you making it out to be. You making it seem like it was a robbery GTFOH. It was a close fight that could of gone either way. But, there was 7 rounds that Tito had a case for winning.
I don't know why people are picking Judah.
The only person that overrates him is himself.
Because, everybody always gives Judah a hell of a shot to beat elite fighters. When in reality he always has a slim chance of winning that is overrated.