Jean Pascal vs. Tavoris Cloud

LOL I remember this thread. I laugh at the people who picked Cloud. I wish it was public so I can see who picked Cloud :lol1:

I'm leaning towards Cloud. Campillo gave Cloud hell because he is a crafty and very awkward southpaw. Campillo is tall and he uses his height well. He knows how to control and keep his opponents at long range. Pascal on the other hand gets reckless and his stamina is pathetic. He is not as smart or as tall as Campillo. He likes to waste energy with unnecessary movement. I could be wrong but I think Cloud would be able to walk him down, cut the ring off, and rough him up.

Still got Cloud sonning Pascal.

Pascal all day.

Okay.....now its official. Still got Pascal winning a UD.

Pascal wins the first 6 rounds and then gets KO'd late...drama and excitement guaranteed!!

The Cloud bandwagon is still going strong. Guess Pascal is gonna have to derail it...

So its official. Finally. This thread has been up for awhile. Still got Pascal winning a UD.

I still got Pascal. But I know Pascal and Campillo are different styles. But the whole image of Cloud as this unstoppable force has faded a bit.

Pascal is faster than Cloud, Dawson is also faster and he had problems with Pascal's speed... Pascal wanted that fight for some time now, i guess he knows that he has a very good chance to win.

I also think Cloud has a good chin, but if you recall he was stunned/rocked early against Glen Johnson. Who, I believe doesn't quite have the same kind of power Pascal has. While Johnson can be a bit heavy handed at times, Pacal throws those explosive very hard hitting shots. Those are the shots I don't think Cloud has ever been hit with. He was buzzed a bit but nothing to the point where he was in any danger of going down or anything like that, i think commentators get a little over excited sometimes lol Johnson was the only one that was truly rocked in that fight. I think Mack was hitting him with more explosive type punches and more consistently, and Cloud seemed to handle them pretty well. Pascal does have the power to hurt anyone though. And if not hurt him, he'll have the power to get Cloud's respect and that could be an issue too if he doesn't fade. Style match up perhaps, we'll see. I'm pumped for this fight! Same! :boxing:

lol well that's what hopkins does to most of his opponents. Cloud knows how to cut off the ring very well (I noticed this against Mack when he was runnin all night) so pascal is going to be forced to fight which is why I think it's going to be a war. I'm picking Cloud to win as well, but I think Pascal is the hardest hitting opponent he's faced to date, that's my only question about Cloud - how can he handle a power shot from Pascal because he's going to eat some for sure. I think Cloud has a good chin, Mack is no where near feather fisted and his hardest punches literally had no effect on Cloud, and some of them were hard counters while Cloud was actually throwing his own shot, and those are the worst ones. My question is whether or not Pascal will take the punches better since they are coming from someone who he will probably see each punch coming. Diaconu is a knockout puncher and has fast hands, and he only wobbled Pascal one time and that was in the first fight (the round where Pascal went back to his corner and smiled about it) The next thing is his stamina. Against Froch and Diaconu his stamina was better, and I'm wondering if it had anything to do with the style match up.

lol well that's what hopkins does to most of his opponents. Cloud knows how to cut off the ring very well (I noticed this against Mack when he was runnin all night) so pascal is going to be forced to fight which is why I think it's going to be a war. I'm picking Cloud to win as well, but I think Pascal is the hardest hitting opponent he's faced to date, that's my only question about Cloud - how can he handle a power shot from Pascal because he's going to eat some for sure. I think Cloud has a good chin, Mack is no where near feather fisted and his hardest punches literally had no effect on Cloud, and some of them were hard counters while Cloud was actually throwing his own shot, and those are the worst ones. My question is whether or not Pascal will take the punches better since they are coming from someone who he will probably see each punch coming. Diaconu is a knockout puncher and has fast hands, and he only wobbled Pascal one time and that was in the first fight (the round where Pascal went back to his corner and smiled about it) The next thing is his stamina. Against Froch and Diaconu his stamina was better, and I'm wondering if it had anything to do with the style match up.

Remember though, Cloud takes rounds off too. That's really the only reason he lost rounds to Glen Johnson, they were the rounds he took off and just didn't do much. So he tends to conserve his energy as well at times. Yeah but at least it actually works for him, unlike Pascal who is just in survival mode after 6 rounds lol and looking clueless. Another thing that could be interesting though is how well Cloud deals with Pascal's movement and power, because Dawson and Hopkins were both technical. For some reason against Froch and Diaconu, Pascal seemed to have more stamina.

tavoris by ko in the mid rounds.

He does have a commanding lead here on NSB. However, I wonder how the sportsbooks will have it. I'm guessing pascal will be a slight favorite. I'm thinking they might have Cloud ahead. The way he showed poise against Mack and knocked him out impressed me, and Pascal does have stamina issues. I'm just not sure which Pascal will show up. The one that fought Diaconu who didn't fade late and banged/boxed for 12 rounds? Or the one who only fought in spurts against Dawson and Hopkins?

Pascal. Cadda (Yusaf mack) had too many spots against Cloud and the non stop scaling of the ropes by pascal (if he does it) will spell trouble, cloud likes being inside, doesn't work well from a distance.

I'll do 50 mm... Deal. May the odds be ever in your favor.

Clouds a big Favorite. I declare him the winner of this poll. Taking bets. I got Pascal. I'll do 50 mm...

Clouds a big Favorite. I declare him the winner of this poll. Taking bets. I got Pascal.