Anyone who saw the fight with their eyes open will tell you that Pascal was great in that fight. Dawson just didn't know how to slow down Pascal. Now that Pascal deserve a place in the P4P ranking, where do you think he will start, knowing that Dawson was #6
Why is Wladimir Klitschko not in the top-10 ? Oh wait, he is Ukranian. Same for Vitali Klitschko.
Why Bute isnt in the top-10 (while he is number 1 on boxrec ahead of every other Super-6 fighters) Oh wait, he is Romanian-Canadian.
To make the top-10 p4p, you need to be either an American, or a Mexican fighting out of somewhere in the States.
Its been like that forever.
(Yeah Pacquiao is up there, but every win over tough competition, it would be only donkey to leave him out, we all agree)
This is why the ring ranking are turning to a joke. No way is pascal top 10 p4p
Exactly, that was Hopkins-Taylor I performance, Pascal being Taylor. And the fight didn't even get to be finished, kid was getting beat from pillar to post and was hurt and almost dropped in the 11th with more than a minute left.
Dawson lost that fight more than Pascal won it.
Who did dawson ever beat that was in the top 10? now pascal beats a top 10 fighter and he gets no respect and ppl say he shouldnt be top ten
What a joke
This is a good question. I wonder how Ring and Boxingscene will approach their next rankings.
They'll be difficult to compile. Crowe's gonna be eaten.
Who did dawson ever beat that was in the top 10? now pascal beats a top 10 fighter and he gets no respect and ppl say he shouldnt be top ten
What a joke
1 fight don't put you in the P4P Rankings, beating someone who is rated high P4P doesn't automatically put you in the P4P Rankings
And in Dawsons case you don't have to beat anyone in the p4p rankings to be ranked!
No doubt it wasn't his only good win. He had a great run at LHW, which is why B.Hop avoided him for so long. But Cunningham was probably the most impressive. At least in my opinion. And guys like Briggs and Arreola are ranked in their divisions, but they're not elite fighters. The guys on p4p list have been in the ring with multiple elite fighters.
Tell me what multiple elite fighters has Floyd fought since 2005 who were not smaller than him?
This is why the ring ranking are turning to a joke. No way is pascal top 10 p4p
Boxingscene has him at no. 4 I think.
In retrospect Dawson has to be one of the most overrated fighters in many years. I personally never understood why he was rated that high. Beating a couple of 40 year olds just doesn't warrant such a high ranking as far as I'm concerned.
He must be 6.
I mean they ranked Floyd number 2 cuz he beat featherweight in welteweight division
Nah they put him at #2 because they felt he was one of the best fighters out there and he had only been dethrowned because of his retirement. He didn't get #1 because obviously Manny has taken that spot and has yet to lose since so doesn't deserve to be stripped of it.
Cunningham isn't Adamek's only good win.
O'Neil Bell was Ring #2 cruiserweight when Adamek beat him. Chris Arreola was Ring #10 heavyweight. Briggs was in the Ring top ten at light heavyweight before both his fights with Adamek.
Plus moving up three divisions, winning world titles in two divisions including the Ring belt at cruiserweight, and continuing to win at heavyweight against naurally bigger men is very impressive.
No doubt it wasn't his only good win. He had a great run at LHW, which is why B.Hop avoided him for so long. But Cunningham was probably the most impressive. At least in my opinion. And guys like Briggs and Arreola are ranked in their divisions, but they're not elite fighters. The guys on p4p list have been in the ring with multiple elite fighters.
They should both be out of the top ten. IMO. Dawson had a good resume for a guy who had the roll he had being in such a dead division. But he hardly ever fights, so therefore he should get highly penalized for losing a fight where P4P rankings are concerned. How can you put Pascal in the top ten but leave Froch, Kessler, and Dirrel out? :welcome:
All I know is that Adamek should be top 5/6.
Why? None of the fighters he beat were ranked. A close fight with Cunningham was his best win and he's not ranked, nor should he be. And let's not even bring up Fatiola lol Wlad is the only guy whose beaten unranked fighters and deserves to be on the list.
As for Pascal, I need to see one more fight from him. However unfortunately for him, his next fight will probably be a loss to Dawson. Who knows, maybe we'll see a trilogy. This will actually force Dawson to fight more than once every 5 years!
Pascal is a good fighter, but he's not top 10 p4p. Light Heavyweight is arguably the weakest division in boxing.
This right here. Its almost as bad as CW.
All I know is that Adamek should be top 5/6.
None of the fighters he beat were ranked. A close fight with Cunningham was his best win and he's not ranked, nor should he be. And let's not even bring up Fatiola.