Lucian Bute Will Avoid Dawson Like The Plague

I see Bute is getting no respect. The guy has skillz and I doubt he ducks dawson when he could easily get that fight in canada and on HBO. What happens if he loses? Go back to selling out the arenas in canada against "bums"? Not a bad alternative imo. And who says dawson will get by pascal? Im looking forward to that fight btw. We r still getting great quality fights contrary to popular fanboy belief. Now stop whining and enjoy. This shyt will never die :boxing:

I doubt it. If Dawson doesn't fight Cloud after Pascal I think HBO is gonna push for Dawson-Bute. Not much else avaiable with the Super 6 going on.

While he's frozen outta the tournament, Bute needs opponents. Steiglitz and Bika are really the only guys left outside the super 6 until the tournament is over. If he could get Dawson at 175, no reason for him not to move up, unless he just feels he won't be equally effective at the weight. Bute don't strike me as a fighter who's happy to milk a paper belt.

Pascal had no trouble making 168. Lucian Bute is 3 inches taller than Pascal and probably has more trouble making 168 than Pascal ever did. What a nuthugger. So blinded by his love for Bute that he insists a guy who is 6'2 is smaller than a guy who is 5'11. That may be one of the dumbest things ive heard on here in 5 years. And no Bute won't get the winner of The Super 6 because the winner of the Super 6 has no reason to waste their time with an overrated bum killer who has never done anything to justify his ranking when they can move on to World Cl*** fighters like Dawson, or even Pascal if he should beat Dawson. Mike Tyson was 5'11. Are you saying he shoud've fought at 154?? Tyson could even make 135, since Ali Funeka is fighting at that weight and is 6'1. Tyson being 2 inches shorter, he can't be bigger than Funeka, right? :buttkick:

Same mistake... again, Pascal is bigger, he's built bigger, he was bigger, he had problems going down to 168 that's why he moved up to 175... do you understand that ? Bute is smaller, he's built smaller, he was smaller, he's still smaller, that's why he doesn't NEED to move up, it's two different situations for two different boxer. Your hate for Bute won't change the fact that Bute will fight the winner of those super 6. And stop making excuses for Dawson... Pascal had no trouble making 168. Lucian Bute is 3 inches taller than Pascal and probably has more trouble making 168 than Pascal ever did. What a nuthugger. So blinded by his love for Bute that he insists a guy who is 6'2 is smaller than a guy who is 5'11. That may be one of the dumbest things ive heard on here in 5 years. And no Bute won't get the winner of The Super 6 because the winner of the Super 6 has no reason to waste their time with an overrated bum killer who has never done anything to justify his ranking when they can move on to World Cl*** fighters like Dawson, or even Pascal if he should beat Dawson.

Jean Pascal had no problem moving from 168 to 175 for bigger fights against tougher opponents. No, Bute does not have to do the same, but it shows how little he desires a real challenge that he is not willing to make a fight that could propel him into the top 5 p4p in the entire world. Especially when his fellow Canadian fighter was willing to do exactly that. Dawson is physically no bigger or stronger than Bute regardless of what weight divisions they fight in. Bute would not be at any real disadvtantage were he to fight Dawson and only come in at 170 lbs. Also, if Bute beats Dawson at 175 it doesn't mean he has to stay there for the rest of his career. He would still have a year before the Super 6 was over after a Dawson fight, plenty of time to get back down to 168 and continue his run in that division. People just love to make excuses for this guy, I don't get it. He has never beatean anymore worth a damn and shows no intention of fighting anyone worth a damn. When Andre Ward wins the Super 6 he isn't gonna waste his time with this heartless chump Bute, he will do like a real fighter would and move up to 175 to fight Dawson and prove he is one of the very best in the world against an opponent who has actually beaten opponents with a pulse. Same mistake... again, Pascal is bigger, he's built bigger, he was bigger, he had problems going down to 168 that's why he moved up to 175... do you understand that ? Bute is smaller, he's built smaller, he was smaller, he's still smaller, that's why he doesn't NEED to move up, it's two different situations for two different boxer. Your hate for Bute won't change the fact that Bute will fight the winner of those super 6. And stop making excuses for Dawson...

This is the way I see it, its an interesting fight but no shame if he doesn't want to fight the best fighter in the world in the division north of him. but yeah if Dawson wants to go to 168, no reason not to fight him then. Jean Pascal had no problem moving from 168 to 175 for bigger fights against tougher opponents. No, Bute does not have to do the same, but it shows how little he desires a real challenge that he is not willing to make a fight that could propel him into the top 5 p4p in the entire world. Especially when his fellow Canadian fighter was willing to do exactly that. Dawson is physically no bigger or stronger than Bute regardless of what weight divisions they fight in. Bute would not be at any real disadvtantage were he to fight Dawson and only come in at 170 lbs. Also, if Bute beats Dawson at 175 it doesn't mean he has to stay there for the rest of his career. He would still have a year before the Super 6 was over after a Dawson fight, plenty of time to get back down to 168 and continue his run in that division. People just love to make excuses for this guy, I don't get it. He has never beatean anymore worth a damn and shows no intention of fighting anyone worth a damn. When Andre Ward wins the Super 6 he isn't gonna waste his time with this heartless chump Bute, he will do like a real fighter would and move up to 175 to fight Dawson and prove he is one of the very best in the world against an opponent who has actually beaten opponents with a pulse.

I don't know why Dawson's team would even bother throwing Bute's name out there. The guy obviously doesn't want a challenge, he is happy to stay in Canada and fight bums. He is the Canadian version of Calzaghe. Even if Dawson agreed to starve himself to 168 and come to Canada; Team Bute still would not answer their phones when Shaw and Dawson come calling. 5 years from now Bute will probably challenge a fighter who has a chance of beating him, but it surely won't be any time soon. I pretty much agree although my estimate would be that Bute will fight the supersix winner and that wont be 5 years. Still it's clear that Bute will keep fighting clubfighters like Brinkley for another year. I'm convinced that he wont fight Dawson and he wont fight one of the two eliminated from the supersix come christmas.

Calm down son, it's good for you to know someone like me who started boxing 30 years ago and is actualy from Montreal. Bute will fight the winner of the Super 6, it's already planned by Stephane Larouche... Bute will fight the winner of the Super 6 huh? Set in stone? LOL. What does he plan on doing for the next year and a half until the Super 6 is wrapped up? Fight a bunch of bums? Yup. Also, Bute was approached about being in The Super Six and he said flat out he wasn't interested. The fact that you deny that as well exposes you as being unable to be unbiased about this topic.

I don't know why Dawson's team would even bother throwing Bute's name out there. The guy obviously doesn't want a challenge, he is happy to stay in Canada and fight bums. He is the Canadian version of Calzaghe. Even if Dawson agreed to starve himself to 168 and come to Canada; Team Bute still would not answer their phones when Shaw and Dawson come calling. 5 years from now Bute will probably challenge a fighter who has a chance of beating him, but it surely won't be any time soon. No Bute fights the winner of Ward/Dirrell by the end of next year!!!

Yeah cause comparing the weight struggle of a guy to move up 7 lbs is the same as moving up 25ish lbs for cruiser. And Bute fought above 168 lbs for the earlier part of his career, so what's the big fcking deal? but until then he'll fight bums like's been doing so, right? They made a mistake by not inviting Bute, it's even worse now that they know that Bute will fight the winner of the Super 6 ! If you were making a tournement of the Super 6 would you forget to invite the Ring #1 Bute or wait and invite him if some boxer doesn't want that tournament ? Bute is #1 good for him, now let's bring those Super 6.

Bute can't duck Dawson. They are not in the same division. If Cunningham calls out Dawson but wants to fight him at cruiser, would you say Chad is ducking him if he doesn't take the fight? If Chad agrees to go to 168 and Bute refuses the fight, it's ok to say he's ducking Dawson though.I would like to see Bute-Dawson at 170. I know some of you are not fans of catchweights, but in this situation I believe both guys would be at their best at that weight. Yeah cause comparing the weight struggle of a guy to move up 7 lbs is the same as moving up 25ish lbs for cruiser. And Bute fought above 168 lbs for the earlier part of his career, so what's the big fcking deal? He was not invited, but when Taylor didn't want to participate in the Super 6 they needed a SUBSTITUTE ! I guess Bute didn't need to be a substitute in his career... Anyway, it is planned that Bute will fight the winner of the Super 6. but until then he'll fight bums like's been doing so, right?

Only fight Pascal cause he was told to? What a dumbass thing to say, it doesn't even make sense. BTW, I know Dawson and Bute are not in the same division. Why don't you tell me that the sun rises in the East every morning while you are making such genius observations. If you knew shit about boxing you would know that Pascal is a natural 168'lber just like Bute is. Pascal, unlike Bute, had the sack to move up in weight to take tougher fights that would garner him more respect. If Pascal can move up to fight Dianconu and Dawson then I don't see why Bute can't do the same.... unless everything I said in my first post was true. (which of course it was). Boxing is obviously not your sport. You're not even close to being on my level. Probably yet another retarded Canuck. Calm down son, it's good for you to know someone like me who started boxing 30 years ago and is actualy from Montreal. Bute will fight the winner of the Super 6, it's already planned by Stephane Larouche...

Don't ask to much for Bute vs Dawson, Bute is very underrated and will destroy Dawson who likes to fight against 40 + and will only fight Pascal because he was told to. BTW Dawson is not in the same division as Bute, since when a WC MUST fight another fighter who is in a different division. Obviously, boxing is not your sport, maybe you're better in Hockey since you know so much about Canadians. Only fight Pascal cause he was told to? What a dumbass thing to say, it doesn't even make sense. BTW, I know Dawson and Bute are not in the same division. Why don't you tell me that the sun rises in the East every morning while you are making such genius observations. If you knew shit about boxing you would know that Pascal is a natural 168'lber just like Bute is. Pascal, unlike Bute, had the sack to move up in weight to take tougher fights that would garner him more respect. If Pascal can move up to fight Dianconu and Dawson then I don't see why Bute can't do the same.... unless everything I said in my first post was true. (which of course it was). Boxing is obviously not your sport. You're not even close to being on my level. Probably yet another retarded Canuck.

I'm not sure if I typed it but I wanted to mention that my memory is kinda fuzzy on those events. I know that they wanted 3 americans though and asked Pavlik if I'm not mistaken (can't remember for sh1t). As far as that deal....I really don't know. Honestly I even heard a rumor that Bute's team turned it down (invite to the super 6), and I heard one that he wasn't even approached. He was not invited, but when Taylor didn't want to participate in the Super 6 they needed a SUBSTITUTE ! I guess Bute didn't need to be a substitute in his career... Anyway, it is planned that Bute will fight the winner of the Super 6.

Could be... but the HBO deal came afterward. Remember it was a secret until it leaked at the end... Bute's camp supposedly wasn't even approached, which tells me that Showtime either wanted that USA vs. Europe format or they decided to include the bigger name or they already knew what type of demands and $ it would take for Bute to get involved and didn't want to pay that. We also forget that Bute has the IBF and that organization is the quickest to strip. I think Bute would've had to vacate to enter the tourney, something I'm not sure he would have done. I'm not sure if I typed it but I wanted to mention that my memory is kinda fuzzy on those events. I know that they wanted 3 americans though and asked Pavlik if I'm not mistaken (can't remember for sh1t). As far as that deal....I really don't know. Honestly I even heard a rumor that Bute's team turned it down (invite to the super 6), and I heard one that he wasn't even approached.

Why would he fight Dawson when Dawson gets booed in his hometown while he sells out arena's in Canada and gives the fans spectacular k.o wins against top contenders. If Dawson wants some, he should go to Canada and fight Bootay there. Dawson already offered to fight in Montreal. I wouldn't question Bute and his team's willingness to fight anyone except for Dawson. They don't want it, you'll see what I'm talking about after Bute-Brinkley.

I was a combination of several things. I think they didn't invite Bute because they wanted a marque name in the Tourney so they went with Taylor. On top of that Bute had signed a deal with HBO so I doubt it would have worked anyway. There were a few more...but I don't want to type you guys to death with a long @ss reply. Could be... but the HBO deal came afterward. Remember it was a secret until it leaked at the end... Bute's camp supposedly wasn't even approached, which tells me that Showtime either wanted that USA vs. Europe format or they decided to include the bigger name or they already knew what type of demands and $ it would take for Bute to get involved and didn't want to pay that. We also forget that Bute has the IBF and that organization is the quickest to strip. I think Bute would've had to vacate to enter the tourney, something I'm not sure he would have done.

So Showtime is just not going to ask them?... Makes no sense, unless they strictly wanted to have 3 Euros against 3 Americans. I agree with TS that wanting to be in the Super 6 might have been a dog and pony show. That said, Bute has fought some tough muhfukcers in Bika and Andrade. I was a combination of several things. I think they didn't invite Bute because they wanted a marque name in the Tourney so they went with Taylor. On top of that Bute had signed a deal with HBO so I doubt it would have worked anyway. There were a few more...but I don't want to type you guys to death with a long @ss reply.

I disagree completely, Bute wanted to be in the Super Six if I remember correctly. If he does duck Dawson though my views on him will change but for now I believe he is more than willing to take that challenge. So Showtime is just not going to ask them?... Makes no sense, unless they strictly wanted to have 3 Euros against 3 Americans. I agree with TS that wanting to be in the Super 6 might have been a dog and pony show. That said, Bute has fought some tough muhfukcers in Bika and Andrade.