Who wins this fight and how?
Devon Alexander or JMM?
Marquez can choose to weigh in at 135.
I like Marquez. He's clearly the superior boxer of the 2, and Devon has to many kinks in his defense that a boxer of Marquez's quality can take advantage of. The only question that I have with Juan, is will he be able to handle 140? His skills are unquestionable, it's the weight that concerns me. How will he handle naturally stronger JRWW's? There's to many question marks for me (concerning Juan moving up to 140). I myself would like to see him take a tune-up at 140, just to see how he would handle the weight, and then possibly talk about the bigger names.
Who wins this fight and how?
Devon Alexander or JMM?
Marquez can choose to weigh in at 135.
Marquez is the better fight but I just don't think JMM belongs at 140. I would say Alexander by close decision
Boxing is chess not checkers guys. Just because Devin was getting countered by Kotelnik doesn't mean just throw a counterpuncher in there and Devin will lose. There are other factors to look at.
I think it was more a combination of range and timing that made Kotelnik such a tough matchup. Whenever Devin was in range to throw a punch Kotelnik was in range to counter. All Devin would have to do with Marquez is remain outside and out work him...easy win. Range is huge depending on your style. Devin was getting very poor advice from his team against Kotelnik. That fight called for him to go inside and Devin was only landing solid shots when he was inside and/or mixing it up toe to toe. Outside he was getting picked apart in the middle rounds. from rounds 4-10 I only gave devin 1-2 rounds. He needed to fight in the pocket and i've seen him do that pretty effectively in the past.
untested? Id say Kotelnik tested the hell out of Devon and considering the styles, Devon did OK.
Marquez does not belong above 135. Simple as that. Anyone with speed and boxing ability will defeat Marquez. His power will not carry to 140.
fine you disagree. But i say Marquez can win this one. Not saying it's gonna be a wide margin.
Most of you was saying Kotelnik was a euro bum. Especially when Khan beat him. A paper champ right?
How many Great accuracies have Devon performed vs top opponent?
Devon is still untested. That's why this fight would make an intriguing one and a competitive one.
untested? Id say Kotelnik tested the hell out of Devon and considering the styles, Devon did OK.
Marquez does not belong above 135. Simple as that. Anyone with speed and boxing ability will defeat Marquez. His power will not carry to 140.
off of one fight?!
People are you SERIOUS? You guys are basing this shit off of one average night from Alexander. Mavsfan, give me another example of when Alexander had poor accuracy.
How many Great accuracies have Devon performed vs top opponent?
Devon is still quite untested. That's why this fight would make an intriguing one and a competitive one.
He got the work rate decision because he was the hometown guy
Kotelnik hit him with cleaner more efficient punches I just think if kotelnik would of won one of the first rounds maybe he would of won it
Yes but Devon is not what I call a huge LWW. Marquez can out time Devon, regardless how big he is at LWW.
They are both listed as the same height 170.
Devon has a 4inch reach advantage. There isn't a huge difference.
I've already said all this.
of course JMM can time Devon.
I just question how consistently throughout 12 rounds, at 37, in a new weight class.
That's the whole problem.
Consistently timing and countering Devon at 37, at 140... like he did at 130 against Pac when he was 33-34.
Either way, Devon is STILL bigger than Marquez regardless if he's not a big 140lber, like Bully said... Marquez isn't even a big lightweight.
I find it funny how some of you guys are writing Alexander off after one bad performance. The same people that are bigging Khan up are the ones that make me laugh the most. Wasn't Khan the one that got blown away in under a minute by a nobody?
I'm certainly not writing Devon off... I think he beats everyone except Bradley.
And Bradley keeps showing signs he wants to move to welterweight later in his career, which could leave room for Alexander to really take over the division.
How do we know he has improved? He hasn't fought anyone who can punch since he got sparked by Prescott. I want to see him fight his mandatory Maidana. That chin will get shattered again.
Possibly
But everything else that could be improved, was.
I think Marquez will take this one he is a counter puncher and Devon throws and throws but doesn't hit u and Marquez will time him perfectly.. That being said I think Devon has really fast hands but he has to have a CLEAR decision this wouldn't be st Louis so he wouldn't get the decision that's close
off of one fight?!
People are you SERIOUS? You guys are basing this shit off of one average night from Alexander. Mavsfan, give me another example of when Alexander had poor accuracy.
I think Marquez will take this one he is a counter puncher and Devon throws and throws but doesn't hit u and Marquez will time him perfectly.. That being said I think Devon has really fast hands but he has to have a CLEAR decision this wouldn't be st Louis so he wouldn't get the decision that's close
I find it funny how some of you guys are writing Alexander off after one bad performance. The same people that are bigging Khan up are the ones that make me laugh the most. Wasn't Khan the one that got blown away in under a minute by a nobody?
Who's writing Devon off?
By saying Marquez vs Devon is a competitive fight counts as writing someone off? Come on man, I think someone is getting a bit too sensitive here.
I find it funny how some of you guys are writing Alexander off after one bad performance. The same people that are bigging Khan up are the ones that make me laugh the most. Wasn't Khan the one that got blown away in under a minute by a nobody?
Then came back and improved
If Alexander does the same, people will rate him highly again.
Yes but Devon is not what I call a huge LWW. Marquez can out time Devon, regardless how big he is at LWW.
They are both listed as the same height 170.
Devon has a 4inch reach advantage. There isn't a huge difference.
Alexander isn't a big 140 pounder, but Marquez isn't even a big lightweight.
What does that have to do with Marquez still fighting a naturally bigger man?
Whether he weighs 135 or 140, Devon will still be the naturally bigger man, with a higher workrate..
Yes but Devon is not what I call a huge LWW. Marquez can out time Devon, regardless how big he is at LWW.
They are both listed as the same height 170.
Devon has a 4inch reach advantage. There isn't a huge difference.
yeah JMM weighed 142 vs Floyd.
at 140 he can choose to weigh in at 135. That's 7 lbs different to his fight at Welter, that's a lot.
What does that have to do with Marquez still fighting a naturally bigger man?
Whether he weighs 135 or 140, Devon will still be the naturally bigger man, with a higher workrate..
That's fine, but he is still going to be fighting a naturally bigger man, and his punches will not have the same effect.
That's the entire problem.
based on the mayweather fight? thats hardly fair
yeah JMM weighed 142 vs Floyd.
at 140 he can choose to weigh in at 135. That's 7 lbs different to his fight at Welter, that's a lot.
based on the mayweather fight? thats hardly fair
based on the fact that he's a natural SFW, based on that he was arguably losing his fights against Casamayor and Diaz prior to the KO's. Based on the fact that there is NO evidence whatsoever that he's effective above 135 and yes, based on the Mayweather fight where it showed that speed is what will give a naturally smaller fighter who gained weight problems.