How many who crucified Froch getting the win over Dirrell think Alexander won?

Dirrell outworked Froch, he was busier and more accurate than the champion=robbery. Alexander was more accurate but did not outwork Alexander/was not busier against the champion=You won't win that way.

explain how going backwards, getting outlanded, and getting hit by a big majority of the clean punches deserves a win but going forward, getting outlanded, and getting hit by most of the clean punches mean the guy got outboxed? Compubox was missing a lot of punches that landed from Devon. Also, Devon landed more power punches according to cbox. People here got too high of expectations from Alexander pre-fight. I read many people saying if he didn't knock Kotelnik out that he'd have no validity with Khan. Kotelnik is a tough fighter and despite Alexander talking of multple game plans he only executed one. He won but not in stellar fashion. I had Devon winning by 2-4 rounds. I think too many posters get influenced by commentators and lack focus in scoring a fight.

Dirrell won and kotelnik won,simply didnt get the decision

Punchstats are not a way to score a fight or justify scoring, they are a man generated statistic which has faults. Anyone who uses them has no merit to their scoring cases since they were obviously influenced by them (you would not bring them up freely if they did not).

I see many of the people who thought Dirrell clearly beat Froch saying Alexander beat Kotelnik. Those same people who talked about how Froch wasn't landing and Dirrell landed all the clean punches are now defending Alexander getting outlanded just because he threw more, though just like Dirrell Kotelnik landed more and landed harder. That's serious hypocrisy. For those who fall under this category, explain how going backwards, getting outlanded, and getting hit by a big majority of the clean punches deserves a win but going forward, getting outlanded, and getting hit by most of the clean punches mean the guy got outboxed? For the record, I thought Dirrell won clearly and I think Kotelnik won clearly. Those people are some biased US fans,Adolph Burner heading the list. Berto vs Collazo. Alexander vs Kotelnik Williams vs Martinez Dawson vs Johnson 1. American fighters fighter always get the nod in a disputed fight. The only exemple countering that fact is Calzaghe vs Hopkins. And Calzaghe really dominated Hopkins in the last rounds.

Good similarity.

Dirrell was robbed against Froch

There's a difference. In the 7 rounds that Dirrell clearly beat Froch, he completely outdid him in every category. He threw AND landed more punches, landed the harder punches along with making Froch swing at air. BUT in the close Alexander-Kotelnik rounds, Kotelnik was landing, but not enough. I look at it the same way I look at the close Dawson-Johnson I rounds. You can't land 6 hard punches but get tagged by 20 smaller punches and say you won the round. Kotelnik's slow start is what caused him to lose. He gave up a lot of rounds that he could have won if he was more active. I had it 115-113 Alexander. But he didn't land 20 small punches to every 6 hard punches. Check the punch stats, there were only 5 rounds where Alexander even outlanded Kotelnik, and of course we all know Kotelnik landed more overall. I just want to know how people can say Dirrell was robbed because of how much Froch was missing but they don't care that Alexander missed just as much. There are plenty of people I saw last night saying Alexander won who think Dirrell was robbed. Froch-Dirrell was closer than Alexander-Kotelnik, I definitely agree with that.

There's a difference. In the 7 rounds that Dirrell clearly beat Froch, he completely outdid him in every category. He threw AND landed more punches, landed the harder punches along with making Froch swing at air. BUT in the close Alexander-Kotelnik rounds, Kotelnik was landing, but not enough. I look at it the same way I look at the close Dawson-Johnson I rounds. You can't land 6 hard punches but get tagged by 20 smaller punches and say you won the round. Kotelnik's slow start is what caused him to lose. He gave up a lot of rounds that he could have won if he was more active. I had it 115-113 Alexander. I agree...Dirrell fought like a bitch that night and it was ugly but I thought he was clearly winning...gotta score it to be sure though I agree with how you viewed last night's bout as well...

Dirrell ran kotelnik didn't. You can't compare

There's a difference. In the 7 rounds that Dirrell clearly beat Froch, he completely outdid him in every category. He threw AND landed more punches, landed the harder punches along with making Froch swing at air. BUT in the close Alexander-Kotelnik rounds, Kotelnik was landing, but not enough. I look at it the same way I look at the close Dawson-Johnson I rounds. You can't land 6 hard punches but get tagged by 20 smaller punches and say you won the round. Kotelnik's slow start is what caused him to lose. He gave up a lot of rounds that he could have won if he was more active. I had it 115-113 Alexander.

I scored the Dirrell/Froch fight by one point for Dirrell. I had Kotelnik over Alexander by 4 points, maybe 5. I could have seen the Dirrell/Froch fight either way really, the first 9 rounds were so sloppy and evenly fought that any of them could have gone either way. Only in the last 3 rounds did Dirrell turn it on and clearly win and he had a point deducted during one of those rounds. Kotelnik was down 2-1 or 3-1 heading into the 4th or 5th then swept all the rest of the rounds, he beat Alexander up.

Gotta watch Froch-Dirrell again...first time I watched I thought Dirrell won... I thought Alexander won last night...thought he banked a lotta rounds early and got beat up late...I didn't score it honestly though....

Dirrell landed the better shots on froch and kotelnik landed by far the better shots on devon, to say alexander won that fight you gota be reaching big time, he didnt

froch did a lot of holding and hitting, especially to the body, to make that fight close. if the fight had been in america dirrell would've won, anywhere in europe froch still would've won. can't see how alexander should've won that fight even in his hometown

Dirrell beat Froch and Kotelnik beat Alexander. Froch was more successful against Dirrell than Alexander was against Kotelnik imo.

Froch landed more on Dirrell than Alexander did on Kotelnik. Kotelnik landed more than Dirrell. I thought Dirrell won a close fight. Kotelnik however was robbed. The two fights dont go hand in hand.

I scored the fight to Froch...

I'm a big Dirrell fan, and really don't have an opinion on Alexander, but... Kotelnik CERTAINLY won more clearly than Dirrell did. I can see the Froch decision if you score a certain (dumb) way. I literally can't see how you give the decision to Alexander, unless you think hitting the gloves is a scoring blow.

Dirrell Beat Froch Kotelnik Beat Alexander