Same decision, pretty much the same situation and in both fights they gave the more active fighters the decision.
Pacquiao came out of the fight like he got ran over by a train and still won against the inactive Clottey who had the more effective shots and nobody cried robbery. People are going to argue Kotelnik was more active than Clottey against Pacquiao, but again he was the more inactive fighter. I had the fight 7-5 for Alexander.
On a side note, did anyone notice how strangely Alexander was acting in the post fight interview? Was he always like that? I don't remember him rolling his eyes or slurring his speech to that extent before, maybe he was just dead tired.
That's what happens when you get your face punched in for 12 rds, lol.
Different situation altogether, Kotelnik was pressuring Alexander the entire fight and was trying to fight. He threw cleaner, effective punches in every rd. Clottey shelled up and was AFRAID to throw, he threw a tenth of the shots that Kotelnik did.
People comparing this fight to the Clottey fight seem to be looking for a copout, Alexander looked average last night as I forecasted he would...no excuse is needed.
LOL..
Me and my brother said the same shit!
Not to mention, Right before the start of the seventh round, Alexander look at his trainer and said "My shoulders feels stiff" then rolled his neck a few times before walking out to the ring....Umm it's called being jabbed clean all night Alexander...It has that effect on the neck, upper back, and shoulders.
Also, in the 12th, he got caught with a left hook (trying to pull away), followed by a right hand, and his leg buckled...After the fight he said his leg knotted up.
I still don't see how he won that fight...Oh well.
Same decision, pretty much the same situation and in both fights they gave the more active fighters the decision.
Pacquiao came out of the fight like he got ran over by a train and still won against the inactive Clottey who had the more effective shots and nobody cried robbery. People are going to argue Kotelnik was more active than Clottey against Pacquiao, but again he was the more inactive fighter. I had the fight 7-5 for Alexander.
On a side note, did anyone notice how strangely Alexander was acting in the post fight interview? Was he always like that? I don't remember him rolling his eyes or slurring his speech to that extent before, maybe he was just dead tired.
That's what happens when you get your face punched in for 12 rds, lol.
Different situation altogether, Kotelnik was pressuring Alexander the entire fight and was trying to fight. He threw cleaner, effective punches in every rd. Clottey shelled up and was AFRAID to throw, he threw a tenth of the shots that Kotelnik did.
People comparing this fight to the Clottey fight seem to be looking for a copout, Alexander looked average last night as I forecasted he would...no excuse is needed.
No it's not. It's not in any way comparable to Pac-Clottey. That is completely ridiculous and makes no sense.
Pac-Clottey saw Manny Pacquiao land 20% on an opponent that stood in a shell the whole fight scared of Pac's power, Pacquiao outlanded and dominated Clottey.
Alexander landed 18% against an opponent that was moving forward, landing more clean and hard shots, and outlanded Alexander.
They are not similar in the least.
This was a stupid topic, and after this post right here, nothing else should be said...
Green K sent.:boxing:
Thread fail, Pac not only out-worked Clottey but also shut him down completely. Kotelnik was not shut down by alexander, devon used his workrate to escape pressure from kotelnik but kotelnik looked like the one in control of the fight.
The pacquiao fight was very different. Kotelnik landed the cleaner better shots and also landed more of them, obviously landing on the gloves gets scored in boxing these days if you throw enough of them.
I wouldn't go as far as to say Kotelnik was robbed but it certainly wasn't a 116-112 UD, I would not have given that fight to Alexander.
I could actually see a Mayweather-Pacquaio fight turning out like the Kotelnik-devon fight, Difference is if Pacquiao gets the decision the same people who scored the fight to Alexander by a wider margin would cry foul that Mayweather was robbed..
Same decision, pretty much the same situation and in both fights they gave the more active fighters the decision.
Pacquiao came out of the fight like he got ran over by a train and still won against the inactive Clottey who had the more effective shots and nobody cried robbery. People are going to argue Kotelnik was more active than Clottey against Pacquiao, but again he was the more inactive fighter. I had the fight 7-5 for Alexander.
On a side note, did anyone notice how strangely Alexander was acting in the post fight interview? Was he always like that? I don't remember him rolling his eyes or slurring his speech to that extent before, maybe he was just dead tired.
Are you saying that you thought clottely won against pacquiao?
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the styles were comparable but the fights were so different.
Pacquiao - Clottey was totally one sided in favor of Pacquiao. Pacquiao threw, threw and threw some more. Clottey was more than happy for the shots to hit of his gloves and sometimes Pacquiao would land especially to the body. Clottey barely even attempted to throw most of the fight.
Alexander - Kotelnik was a clear win for Kotelnik imo. Devon outworked him in most of the rounds but most of his shots touched Kotelniks gloves while Kotelnik's shots were clean and very effective plus he came forward and controlled the pace of the fight. Kotelnik also threw far more than shots than Clottey.
No it's not. It's not in any way comparable to Pac-Clottey. That is completely ridiculous and makes no sense.
Pac-Clottey saw Manny Pacquiao land 20% on an opponent that stood in a shell the whole fight scared of Pac's power, Pacquiao outlanded and dominated Clottey.
Alexander landed 18% against an opponent that was moving forward, landing more clean and hard shots, and outlanded Alexander.
They are not similar in the least.
i'm glad someone knows what they are talking about
ts is a fukking retard
alexander was hitting gloves and air all night. He was outclassed, beaten up and exposed by kotelnik
look at the compubox stats you dumb motherfukker
kotelnik landed more punches. He landed the harder, cleaner, more effective punches
connect %
kotelnik 29%
alexander had a pathetic 18%
this^^^^^^^^^^
not a good comparison
If I remember it right, Clottey looked liked an Armadillo against Pacquiao in that fight while Pac keeps on punching.
Kotelnik-Alexander fight was closed.. It should have been for Kotelnik or a Draw
Same decision, pretty much the same situation and in both fights they gave the more active fighters the decision.
Pacquiao came out of the fight like he got ran over by a train and still won against the inactive Clottey who had the more effective shots and nobody cried robbery. People are going to argue Kotelnik was more active than Clottey against Pacquiao, but again he was the more inactive fighter. I had the fight 7-5 for Alexander.
On a side note, did anyone notice how strangely Alexander was acting in the post fight interview? Was he always like that? I don't remember him rolling his eyes or slurring his speech to that extent before, maybe he was just dead tired.
No it's not. It's not in any way comparable to Pac-Clottey. That is completely ridiculous and makes no sense.
Pac-Clottey saw Manny Pacquiao land 20% on an opponent that stood in a shell the whole fight scared of Pac's power, Pacquiao outlanded and dominated Clottey.
Alexander landed 18% against an opponent that was moving forward, landing more clean and hard shots, and outlanded Alexander.
They are not similar in the least.
wow, a bullshit hometown gift decision
you're pathetic
If that fight was anywhere else in the world Kotelnik would've won a clear cut UD
Hey listen mister, take it the L and deal with it. You guys over there have so many bs decisions that's why nobody from the U.S. wants to fight over there.
Not even close to being the same situation. When you talk about the more active fighter it is important to point out what kind of activity? Punches landing on gloves or thin air doesn't mean you win a round.
Pacquiao only landed 20% of his punches but he landed more than double of Clottey. Pacquiao landed 246 total punches to Clottey's 108. 232 of those were power punches.
Kotelnik threw less and landed MORE than Alexander. More importantly, Kotelnik landed the CLEANER punches.
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