I'm Devon's biggest fan here and I saw it LIVE...

Wow Shadows!... Look what I wrote at 7:47am today.... "Not Tims fault that Devon came to the fight to flurry and hug...Devon fought so damn scared. I honestly see Devon going the route of JT soon. Remember how Jt got trapped into that style of going backwards all the time, but wasn't effective doing it? Remember what started to happen? Yeah, I see the same fate coming to Devon soon...." Devon also reminds me of JT. The natural talent combined with jittery nervous energy, plus he's a little stiff. He better not fight any lanky white guys.

who does Amir remind you guys of? Tommy Hearns? Amir Khan reminds me of Jhonny González.

who does Amir remind you guys of? Tommy Hearns? Wow...............smh

who does Amir remind you guys of? Tommy Hearns? More like the kid who calls out Hearns all the time in Million Dollar Baby.

If Devon has been with KC since he was 7 years old then i dont see how a new trainer can change him now, The only positive is devon is 23 but i cant help but forsee a downhill from here and on for him, I really hope not because i use to rate him quite highly but the Kotelnik fight.

:lol1: :fing02: I was thinking about Bradley-Alexander and the fighters a few days ago, and it suddenly came to me the more and more I thought about Alexander's flaws. Crazy we both saw it....

who does Amir remind you guys of? Tommy Hearns? .....glass joe

Oh and BTW. I really hope King doesn't decide to shelve Alexander now that he's lost. Would be terrible for him to be inactive for long stretches now.

Wow Shadows!... Look what I wrote at 7:47am today.... "Not Tims fault that Devon came to the fight to flurry and hug...Devon fought so damn scared. I honestly see Devon going the route of JT soon. Remember how Jt got trapped into that style of going backwards all the time, but wasn't effective doing it? Remember what started to happen? Yeah, I see the same fate coming to Devon soon...." :lol1: :fing02: I was thinking about Bradley-Alexander and the fighters a few days ago, and it suddenly came to me the more and more I thought about Alexander's flaws.

Alexander is a good physical talent, he has the potential to improve at such a young age. However, due to his stiffness and his seemingly inability to adjust, think in the ring, or listen to his corner, he reminds me of Jermain Taylor. Wow Shadows!... Look what I wrote at 7:47am today.... "Not Tims fault that Devon came to the fight to flurry and hug...Devon fought so damn scared. I honestly see Devon going the route of JT soon. Remember how Jt got trapped into that style of going backwards all the time, but wasn't effective doing it? Remember what started to happen? Yeah, I see the same fate coming to Devon soon...."

Alexander is a good physical talent, he has the potential to improve at such a young age. However, due to his stiffness and his seemingly inability to adjust, think in the ring, or listen to his corner, he reminds me of Jermain Taylor. http://joehubbard.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/hammer-and-nail_web.jpg

Alexander is a good physical talent, he has the potential to improve at such a young age. However, due to his stiffness and his seemingly inability to adjust, think in the ring, or listen to his corner, he reminds me of Jermain Taylor.

Who would you like to see Devon trained by? I wouldn't mind seeing him work with a more veteran guy like a Manny Stew or one of the Mayweather's. I didn't hear everything that was said in Alexander's corner as I was talking about the fight as it happened on here, but I remember hearing Cunningham say to Alexander that he's doing good and to keep doing what he's doing. WTF? :nonono: My point exactly Shadows!!!!!!!!!!!! :grr:

I didn't hear everything that was said in Alexander's corner as I was talking about the fight as it happened on here, but I remember hearing Cunningham say to Alexander that he's doing good and to keep doing what he's doing. WTF? :nonono:

If I wasn't trying to fight off my sleepiness, I probably would've paid more attention in between rounds. But, man, from what I witnessed last night. I don't think CUNNINGham would've OR could've adjusted his balls for him. Its not all about ball mans. He should have made in-the-ring adjustments and they weren't made. The kid is 23, he doesn't know everything he needs to do. That is why fighters have trainers, to instruct them on what to do and what to stop doing. Bradley's trainer told Tim what to do and what not to do. Kevin was too busy cussing out the ref instead of attending to his fighter and correcting. It's like Devon was more concerned about not getting hit than actually putting in work. No advice from the best would've worked last night. The student actually has to follow through, there was none or hardly any last night. If they worked together, things could have been better (just like the Kotelnik fight). Bradley wasn't doing anything special last night. He put a nice amount of pressure on Devon and timed his right hand.

Right, he isn't bad at all. And, I saw the defensive holes in his game. He has the Cory Spinks sydrome, pull back with his hands down. Only a few fighters can get away with that. And tonight, Kotelnik timed the mess out of him and landed some good shots when Devon pulled straight back with his hands down. I pray that he fixes those flaws, but, his trainer won't fix them. Which upsets me. Alot. Anyways, Devon got tested and lost IMO. That right hand is too low and the same shots that Cory Spinks got hurt with are the same ones that Devon are getting hurt with. His trainer needs to teach better defense. I agree, he has to fix that defense. I don't think his trainer can do much more for him, TBH. His trainer suck too. Devon is talented, but he definitely need a better trainer who can teach him to be more versatile. I've been saying this for a minute too. I thought that Cory should have made a switch earlier than he did, but he just stop being very dedicated to the sport. I wish Devon would switch, but he has been with Kev since he was 7, so he isn't going anywhere. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ I didn't see nor hear Kevin Cunningham make any adjustments and its frustrating man! :grr::grr::grr:

I haven't scored the fight but I'm not quite sure how Devon wins. He landed very little and got hit a lot more. The rest of the fight was just him missing a lot of shots. He showed grit but was on fumes at the end and his face looked worse for wear. Kotelnik was patient, the effective aggressor, controlled the center of the ring, landed the cleaner punches and landed more punches period. And had much better defense. He should've won the decision. I wonder if Alexander's handlers are as eager to put him in the ring against Bradley following this performance. DAZED, you know you and I see eye to eye on this boxing thing...and we saw the SAME thing last night. I really dislike the performance. As you said, he did show grit, but he didn't look to be in the best shape possible. I absolutely LOVED Kotelnik's TIMING, it was sweet. With that said, Devon HAS to go back to the board and make adjustments before he fights Bradley. They want him next, but as I said, the Devon FROM LAST NIGHT, can NOT show up against Tim.

Ye ye ye, anyway what about Mayweather!? Was he wearing anything coooool?? :lol1: BS has posted pics, check them out.

I like Alexander, I saw him the first time on the Trinidad-Jones undercard back in January 2008. Great talent, decent power, terrific workrate...but I've always seen Timothy Bradley as a bigger force despite his lack of punching power. He looks like he's really always up to challenges and always comes in terrific shape. That's my favorite fighter out of all the ones out there in every division. Having said that, it's nice to see real fans who stand behind their fighters and don't start jumping off the bandwagon (like many are right now). The Urango KO was eye-catching, but if I remember correctly Urango started coming on in the mid rounds before that timed uppercut caught him. Judging from last night's fight, Devon dislikes pressure and it's insane how many jabs landed (assuming punch zone was accurate=120?!). Either Alexander had an off night, or Kotelnik really IS a great fighter. I hope it's the latter. I need to watch that fight again without my heart racing like it was yesterday night. Punch stats reflect that Alexander was the busier fighter and landed more punches overall. The problem was that Kotelnik's high guard pressure style with the insanely timed jab never allowed Alexander to get momentum going. Add to the fact that Alexander was horribly cut, it made Kotelnik as if he was going to take it. In the end, we all got a great fight (actually two great fights) and I personally would like to see where both Alexander and Kotelnik head towards after this. Actually thats wrong, kotelnik out landed alexander overall, 225 to 202 and landed by far the cleaner shots too but how do you lose when you out land your opponent and also clearly land the better shots too..... ask lederman and the judges!!

...and that was not a good performance AT ALL! I have a good eye when it comes to this sport and from what I seen Devon didn't win. I'm now arguing with my dad, WHO USED TO BOX that saw it on tv, and he thinks that Devon won. I don't think so. Props to Kotelnik. Dude is a solid, solid fighter. Kotelnik timed the mess out of Devon and landed that str8 right hand when he wanted and he landed some nice hooks. If the Devon THAT I SAW tonight faces Bradley, he gets beat and maybe gets knocked out. I love Devon and I have always supported him and I will continue to because I am a BIG fan of his. But, this kind of performance won't cut it against the other top guys in the division. Other note, I saw Floyd. Dude is little, after the fight he walked right by me. I tried to snap a shot, but he just shot me a salute and left pretty quick with a HUGE bodyguard. Devon, let's step it up bro! Bounce back! I haven't scored the fight but I'm not quite sure how Devon wins. He landed very little and got hit a lot more. The rest of the fight was just him missing a lot of shots. He showed grit but was on fumes at the end and his face looked worse for wear. Kotelnik was patient, the effective aggressor, controlled the center of the ring, landed the cleaner punches and landed more punches period. And had much better defense. He should've won the decision. I wonder if Alexander's handlers are as eager to put him in the ring against Bradley following this performance.