Pirog-Jacobs was a prime example of whats wrong with boxing today

yup, hw and possibly mw. MW has more skilled boxers from Europe than HW IMO.

Golovkin-Nunez is on 14th. 17 fights are on that card. :boxing: I like that french kid N'Jikam too. MW is stacked with top European fighters, they're taking over. yup, hw and possibly mw.

there's about 5 more mw's coming up that are bringing rukus with um golovkin fights soon Golovkin-Nunez is on 14th. 17 fights are on that card. :boxing: I like that french kid N'Jikam too. MW is stacked with top European fighters, they're taking over.

I don't Pirog beating Jacobs was an upset. When GBP prospects lose fighting solid competition, they're bad match makers. But when Top Rank prospects win fighting half ass competition, then they're on their way to being the best...

Middleweight has become a hotbed of talent now with Martinez, Williams, Pirog in the mix.. along with the already talented stalwarts. I love Martinez, but I think Williams can rule the division if he stuck at 160 and didn't bounce around. Money and press wise, it makes sense that he can challenge anyone from 147-168. Golden Boy are like a family business, someone whos related to someone is working there, thats why they can't make a star yet. They have no skills in terms of nurturing talent. I hate Bob Arum, but at least he can guide careers, Ortiz would've been better suited staying at Top Rank. there's about 5 more mw's coming up that are bringing rukus with um golovkin fights soon

excellent thread by the way. I agree 1000000%. mw is a great place to make these matchups right now by the way. a lot of dudes coming up that can fight. Middleweight has become a hotbed of talent now with Martinez, Williams, Pirog in the mix.. along with the already talented stalwarts. I love Martinez, but I think Williams can rule the division if he stuck at 160 and didn't bounce around. Money and press wise, it makes sense that he can challenge anyone from 147-168. I wonder if Golden Boy did their homework right when they made this fight, do you think it was a gamble to see if Jacobs was the real deal? I mean I like the kid but he was not a world beater, plus he was untested. Maybe GB thought they had done enough for Jacobs aleady and their investment wasn't paying back so they fed him to a hungry lion like Pirog? From the moment this fight was announced everyone knew including me that Jacobs was in for a rude awakening and it proved to be true. Wow really. I smelled failure a mile away...lol. They shouldve went after Sylvester or Sturm. More so Slyvester. Golden Boy are like a family business, someone whos related to someone is working there, thats why they can't make a star yet. They have no skills in terms of nurturing talent. I hate Bob Arum, but at least he can guide careers, Ortiz would've been better suited staying at Top Rank.

Don King did well.

They would not get away with paying these guys 50k, plus the fight would be in Germany Thats true. Jacobs was screwed from jump then huh.

Yeah, I failed hard at the title or people didn't understand it right. I meant to say everything great about Pirogs-Jacobs is whats wrong with boxing, top fighters avoiding each other. Burner: I know a few scouts from Golden Boy and they have said the same thing to me, that Jacobs getting a strap increases his star power and Pirogs was the easiest option to get a belt in their mind. They thought Jacobs would win a comfortable 12 round fight, if not a late stoppage. Wow really. I smelled failure a mile away...lol. They shouldve went after Sylvester or Sturm. More so Slyvester.

I wonder if Golden Boy did their homework right when they made this fight, do you think it was a gamble to see if Jacobs was the real deal? I mean I like the kid but he was not a world beater, plus he was untested. Maybe GB thought they had done enough for Jacobs aleady and their investment wasn't paying back so they fed him to a hungry lion like Pirog? From the moment this fight was announced everyone knew including me that Jacobs was in for a rude awakening and it proved to be true.

Yeah, I failed hard at the title or people didn't understand it right. I meant to say everything great about Pirogs-Jacobs is whats wrong with boxing, top fighters avoiding each other. Burner: I know a few scouts from Golden Boy and they have said the same thing to me, that Jacobs getting a strap increases his star power and Pirogs was the easiest option to get a belt in their mind. They thought Jacobs would win a comfortable 12 round fight, if not a late stoppage. excellent thread by the way. I agree 1000000%. mw is a great place to make these matchups right now by the way. a lot of dudes coming up that can fight.

Yeah, I failed hard at the title or people didn't understand it right. I meant to say everything great about Pirogs-Jacobs is whats wrong with boxing, top fighters avoiding each other. Burner: I know a few scouts from Golden Boy and they have said the same thing to me, that Jacobs getting a strap increases his star power and Pirogs was the easiest option to get a belt in their mind. They thought Jacobs would win a comfortable 12 round fight, if not a late stoppage.

I disagree 110%. Anyone who followed Pirog and not just who GBP tells us to follow shuldve known Pirog would win the fight. He had the style match up in his favor. It was two prospects going at it. One had to lose. Pirog vs. Jacobs is whats RIGHT about the sport. nO that bullshit Arum is pulling with Lopez and Gamboa and not what Bradley tried to pull with Alexander.

Magnifico with another horrific post. Who are you other than one of the worst 3 posters on boxingscene?

Agreed with TS. To use another example, in one sense I'm actually happy that Ortiz lost to Maidana in such a shocking fashion - he was expected to do big things and roll past some no-namer, but instead got stopped in his tracks and has since been forced to the back of the line. IMO it's good when the latter happens, because people can get behind a freshly lost fighter for different reasons than just bandwagoning them, and then support them during their next rise to the top. There's a certain satisfaction behind it.