IMO Dawson is for real but Jacobs was on many list has a future star and he lost his first real test.
I don't want to compare their career, Dawson is WC and Jacobs a Prospect. Again, Dawson is a REAL WC and Jacobs was an untested kid fighting for a title.
Will you see Dawson as a "Jacobs" if he lose to a average fighter or will still see him as one of the best P4P. i hope im clear...
this doesn't make sense, sorry
It makes a lot of sense cause all those people wouldn't admit that Jacobs was just another green untested young propect. Now, that they have admit it, they can't go back. Also, it does prove that Pirog is not that great cause his victory was against a young prospect. Thank you, reading between the lines is always a option...
What kind of retarded question is this? Dawson is 10x the fighter Jacobs is and has already won more than one belt over guys like Johnson, Tarver, Harding, Adamek and possibly Pascal.
Jacobs has beat Ishe Smith as well... thats it.
So Pirog victory is not that important, i agee. Finally, my question makes you say what you don't want to admit. Jacobs is just another young prospect.
Wow. You just compared Chad Dawson to a green prospect whose only test came against a JMW who was on the fukking Contender series.
Stop posting until you gain a little boxing knowledge.
Ive been boxing for 30 years and you ? Also, how can a green untested prospect get a title fight ? humm something is wrong here, two days ago Jacobs was ready and today he's just a green untested... of course you can't compare those two boxers and please don't start to compare Pirog to the Top fighters, free boxing knowledge just for you, wow.
What kind of retarded question is this? Dawson is 10x the fighter Jacobs is and has already won more than one belt over guys like Johnson, Tarver, Harding, Adamek and possibly Pascal.
Jacobs has beat Ishe Smith as well... thats it.
yeah I pretty much knew right away that English was not our first language which is perfectly fine but my quote in the other topic about Pirog:
^not even sure how you turned this comment into "someone saying that Pirog is Top 10 P4P" but that is not what I was saying at all not even close
Well, i was not talking about you, but it all started yesterday, when Jacobs lost, Pirog became the next best thing in less than a day, that can only happened if you beat a TOP fighter right ? This is where i don't want to go, that fight was a mistake, Jacobs was not ready, he's got skills, but boxing is different from other sports, skills are important but you need the experience in the ring to get those skills to work. Jacobs wasn't ready, Pirog was, so he won. Even if some won't say it now, i know that if Dawson lose one or two fights, a lot of people will stop having respect for him. They will find some mistakes that they never saw before and say that he was OVERRATED just like Jacobs was. Time will tell, let's wait for his first lost to see if i was wrong.
I think Dawson will beat Pascal. But Pascal will be ready, this will be a great fight not like Jacobs vs Pirog...
Not comparing their career cause i know that Dawson is WC and the other is not, maybe i'm not clear with my English cause i speak French, this is the only place where i use some English. When i see some people putting Pirog in the TOP 10 P4P or very close to it, i'm asking myself will these people have the same logic when it comes to Dawson. If someone beat Dawson where do you rank him ?
yeah I pretty much knew right away that English was not our first language which is perfectly fine but my quote in the other topic about Pirog:
awkward is a GREAT THING in boxing, that is why nobody wants to fight Celestino Caballero because he is kinda awkward
I like Pirog style, not sure if I am ready to put him in the P4P top 10 like some people are ready to do after Knocking Jacobs Out
^not even sure how you turned this comment into "someone saying that Pirog is Top 10 P4P" but that is not what I was saying at all not even close
Pirog ain"t no top 10 P4P.
Dawson has beaten the current undisputed CW champ and ranked HW Adamek. He beat Tarver and Johnson twice and both are former Lightheavyweight champs.
If someone stops Chad Dawson, this guy becomes number 1 and Dawson number 2.
I dont understand why hes not ranked though. He has beat the best around and deserves to be there way more then some of the current guys
He also has the kind of style that wins fights and has great skills
Not comparing their career cause i know that Dawson is WC and the other is not, maybe i'm not clear with my English cause i speak French, this is the only place where i use some English. When i see some people putting Pirog in the TOP 10 P4P or very close to it, i'm asking myself will these people have the same logic when it comes to Dawson. If someone beat Dawson where do you rank him ?
Pirog ain"t no top 10 P4P.
Dawson has beaten the current undisputed CW champ and ranked HW Adamek. He beat Tarver and Johnson twice and both are former Lightheavyweight champs.
If someone stops Chad Dawson, this guy becomes number 1 and Dawson number 2.
Not comparing their career cause i know that Dawson is WC and the other is not, maybe i'm not clear with my English cause i speak French, this is the only place where i use some English. When i see some people putting Pirog in the TOP 10 P4P or very close to it, i'm asking myself will these people have the same logic when it comes to Dawson. If someone beat Dawson where do you rank him ?
Who other then trolls say hes a top P4P fighter, dude stop trolling and have a adult convo when you make threads
Plus stop haing on Dawson,
Not comparing? The title of your thread if "Can Dawson Be The Next Jacobs" but your not comparing, then you are so quick to reply to other people comments just with anything you can think of and it is just not making any sense
Not comparing their career cause i know that Dawson is WC and the other is not, maybe i'm not clear with my English cause i speak French, this is the only place where i use some English. When i see some people putting Pirog in the TOP 10 P4P or very close to it, i'm asking myself will these people have the same logic when it comes to Dawson. If someone beat Dawson where do you rank him ?
exactly, seems like todays boxing fans only point out the stuff they want to see
basically they would say "lets forget about Dawson's overall dominating performance against Adamek and only focus on the knock down" then some how they parlay that into "Dawson has a weak chin because Adamek dropped in late in that fight" despite the fact that he got right back up and still won the fight :nonono:
Yea I see that alot. Dawson is a very good fighter but has no following, not the biggest personality and doesnt really get into any fan friendly wars, but hes great nonetheless
Wait hes NOT a complete fighter? Hes as close to a complete fighter as i have seen in a while.
He beat Tarver pretty easily twice and there is no reason to disect small mistakes he made in slowmo
exactly, seems like todays boxing fans only point out the stuff they want to see
basically they would say "lets forget about Dawson's overall dominating performance against Adamek and only focus on the knock down" then some how they parlay that into "Dawson has a weak chin because Adamek dropped in late in that fight" despite the fact that he got right back up and still won the fight :nonono:
I'm not saying the guy is not good, but the way people talk about him on here you would think he's the next Jesus Christ. They said he's the best fighter outside of Pacquiao and Mayweather.
Skill wise he is one of the best. He is about to clean out the division and has skills as good as anyone
It means that the Jacobs fight was a joke and now many "don't ask me how many" people think that Pirog is one of best boxer, some even put him in the top 10 P4P ! HAaaaaaHaaa
YOur being stupid by listening to people joke around and making a stupid thread like this
Plus how was the jacobs fight a joke exactly?
Wait hes NOT a complete fighter? Hes as close to a complete fighter as i have seen in a while.
He beat Tarver pretty easily twice and there is no reason to disect small mistakes he made in slowmo
I'm not saying the guy is not good, but the way people talk about him on here you would think he's the next Jesus Christ. They said he's the best fighter outside of Pacquiao and Mayweather.
Im not comparing, in fact you agree to my point, one is a true WC and the other was fighting for a title but was a kid with boxing gloves on.
Not comparing? The title of your thread if "Can Dawson Be The Next Jacobs" but your not comparing, then you are so quick to reply to other people comments just with anything you can think of and it is just not making any sense
He's beatable contrary to what his hardcore fans will have you believe on here. If you pay attention to his style he doesn't land any effective punches hardly. I think Tarver had close to the same percentage of punches landed in both fights against him because Tarver was catching a lot of punches on his gloves. In fact somebody made a thread about it and showed a gif of Dawson throwing a five punch combination that didn't even hit the mark once on Tarver.
His right hand is weak. His uppercut with either hand is so so. I'm just saying he's not this complete fighter that you guys make him out to be.
Wait hes NOT a complete fighter? Hes as close to a complete fighter as i have seen in a while.
He beat Tarver pretty easily twice and there is no reason to disect small mistakes he made in slowmo
Dawson is already a star and a legit champ TS. No matter which Dawson you're talking about. What you said is like : Can Wladimir Klitschko be the next Povetkin?
Are you serious ? On a another thread some people are saying that Pirog is a top ten P4P. How can you beat a prospect and be on the top 10 P4P ! hahaha Read my post,im not comparing their career...
Dawson is already prove so if he were to lose it would just be because he lost, he would still be considered good. I assume from your location you might be a Pascal or Bute fan and might be predicting them to beat Dawson but if they did it would just mean Dawson lost to a really good fighter.
One who couldn't beat Froch? Props for Dawson going into the lion's den though.
IMO Dawson is for real but Jacobs was on many list has a future star and he lost his first real test.
I don't want to compare their career, Dawson is WC and Jacobs a Prospect. Again, Dawson is a REAL WC and Jacobs was an untested kid fighting for a title.
Will you see Dawson as a "Jacobs" if he lose to a average fighter or will still see him as one of the best P4P. i hope im clear...
Is it safe to say that Dawson has beaten guys that are above average?
Is it safe to say that Dawson has beaten top guys of his weight-class?
So again how can he be the next Jacobs?