Terrible match making by GBP.......

Two prospects went at it. One got KO'd. Its boxing. Exactly. All this complaining needs to stop. Its good to see top prospects go at it. Because at that stage of their careers, they can rebound. We'll see Danny Jacobs again, and we'll certainly see Pirog. If anything, this was a better way for the fight to go because Pirog probably would have had a harder time rebounding.

Did you see the look of confusion on Jacobs face early on in the fight? You can tell he has never seen that type of style and the things Pirog brought to that fight. I don't think Jacobs is over and he has a chance to be good, but I wish he would have faced looks that would have prepared him better than he was for this fight. Lets say you have never faced a slick fighter before. You don't have your step fight against a style like that especially for a world title. This is the reason a guy like Corley is on a lot of fighters resume. He isn't elite but I believe he is the best C class fighter around the 140-147 range that will prepare you for southpaws. There are tons of guys like that and I feel Jacobs team should have scouped up guys who would better prepare him. Dude looked like a deer in front of headlights and there is a reason for that is all I'm saying. Who wouldnt look like a deer in headlights with Pirog's style. NO ONE in boxing fights like that. Two prospects went at it. One got KO'd. Its boxing.

Im glad Jacobs was knocked out to be honest. Hes crap. Anybody with who seen Pirog fight shouldve known he was better.

The knockout of Jacobs was the highlight of the overall shitty card.

Whether he fought Pirog this year or 5 years from now he wouldve go his ass berat the same way. Possibly even worse. Danny Jacobs is NOT a good fighter. I see nothing in him at all. I knew he was losing this fight. Pirog is faster, more athletic and more accurate then he is. Hes just all around better than Jacobs. Its not like Pirog was 45-0 hes a guy with only 16 fights. Did you see the look of confusion on Jacobs face early on in the fight? You can tell he has never seen that type of style and the things Pirog brought to that fight. I don't think Jacobs is over and he has a chance to be good, but I wish he would have faced looks that would have prepared him better than he was for this fight. Lets say you have never faced a slick fighter before. You don't have your step fight against a style like that especially for a world title. This is the reason a guy like Corley is on a lot of fighters resume. He isn't elite but I believe he is the best C class fighter around the 140-147 range that will prepare you for southpaws. There are tons of guys like that and I feel Jacobs team should have scouped up guys who would better prepare him. Dude looked like a deer in front of headlights and there is a reason for that is all I'm saying.

GBP is terrible with up and coming fighters. Is not cherry picking or fight the best when you're a prospect. Is about taking steps. You can't fight an a whole bunch of bums and D- level fighters and then jump up to b level fighters. That is not a way you bring up a prospcet. I am not going to say that Jacobs-Pirog was terrible matchmaking. Maybe it was or maybe the previous jacobs fights were terrible matchmaking cuz he didn't take the gradual step up in comp to get him ready for Pirog. Look at Deontay Wilder. A tomato can after tomato can. And, what they will do with him is he will keep fighting tomato cans, and bums. And, then they will step him up with a B level fighter. And, everybody would say what is the big deal is better than cherry picking. But, is not about that. Is bout stepping up to fight D level fighters, then when you look good against D level fighters, step up to fight C level fighters, then fight b level fighters until you ready for the elite. That is how you bring up a prospect. GBP still haven't figured that out yet. Top Rank is still the best in bringing up prospects. I would also put Thompson Boxing promotions, TKO boxing, and Prizefight over GBP in bringing up prospects.

Whether he fought Pirog this year or 5 years from now he wouldve go his ass berat the same way. Possibly even worse. Danny Jacobs is NOT a good fighter. I see nothing in him at all. I knew he was losing this fight. Pirog is faster, more athletic and more accurate then he is. Hes just all around better than Jacobs. Its not like Pirog was 45-0 hes a guy with only 16 fights.

Again I'll just take an L on this thread and leave it alone for now. FWIW I have felt this way for a while as far as how poor prospects are being brought a long as compare to 5-10 years ago. I'm not just saying this because of Jacobs getting his ass handed to him.

so basically you would rather they have thrown him in with somebody he could beat? this was meant to be a step up in class for Jacobs and he failed plus his grandmother's death probably affected him more than he knew he's young he will bounce back i never been too impressed with Jacobs anyway his KO ratio is good because of the caliber of opponent he has been in with never saw anything in him that was remotely special pirog on the other hand looks like a problem No I never said that. I think he had nothing but easy fights that did nothing for him (as far as getting him ready for world class competition) and ran into a style that he wasn't prepared for. My issues lie with the progression (tomato can, tomato can........then elite talent) and I felt his handlers should have given him better fights prior to this. Jacobs has basically had a free run up untill now, and Pirog was a tidy boxer why shouldn't have the fight happen? Jacobs has ran through all his opponents up untill now to be honest.. He stepped up in class and got his ass handed to him, it was going to happen somewhere down the line anyway. This is my point. He faced guys that we nothing but look good fights for him and didn't give him looks that help him against top competition and it showed. He had a look of confusion during the first round or Second round of the fight. I will go ahead an take an "L" on this one..lol but I just don't like the poor progression and lack of fighters in most of these prospect 1-10 or 1-15 fights that will help them in the future. It think it boils down to a team understanding their fighting and taking the fights that will help them excel prior to them stepping up in competition. Look for this trend to continue in boxing and more and more young guys get exposed. Then people will wonder why this is happening all of the sudden when a lot of this could have been prevent due to proper preparation.

Its better than cherry picking. Jacobs fught a tough test and lost. Big deal thats what hapens.

Jesus man make up your mind. What the hell is a bad match-up? =A bad cherry pick? When Golden Boy fighters like Khan gets fed on turds u whine about his cherry picks, But when fighters like Jabobs don't get a good cherry pick u also whine that he gets a too stronger opponent.

What do GREATS DO?? They beat and fight whoever gets put in front of them no matter what style. I rather praise Golden Boy for CHALLENGING their fighters than CHERRY PICKING by Top Rank. You people need to make up your minds. You want boxers to be challenged yes or no in order to prove that they have it?? Exactly! I have said it before, I don't understand why people complain when promoters put their guys in with easy marks, but then complain when promoters actually give their fighters challenges. I thought losses don't matter? If these fighters are truly great they would either win these fights OR learn from them and become better fighters.

What do GREATS DO?? They beat and fight whoever gets put in front of them no matter what style. I rather praise Golden Boy for CHALLENGING their fighters than CHERRY PICKING by Top Rank. You people need to make up your minds. You want boxers to be challenged yes or no in order to prove that they have it?? This is on the money. People complain that these prospects dont take on enough challenges, then they get caught cold and its the matchmakers fault. A loss is a loss, The Golden Child can prove more in coming back from this loss than what he could have if he stopped another Juan Astorga. Whos Mr Astorga you may be thinking? I dont know either, but my friend boxrec told me that was his last opponent.

so basically you would rather they have thrown him in with somebody he could beat? this was meant to be a step up in class for Jacobs and he failed plus his grandmother's death probably affected him more than he knew he's young he will bounce back i never been too impressed with Jacobs anyway his KO ratio is good because of the caliber of opponent he has been in with never saw anything in him that was remotely special pirog on the other hand looks like a problem

Jacobs has basically had a free run up untill now, and Pirog was a tidy boxer why shouldn't have the fight happen? Jacobs has ran through all his opponents up untill now to be honest.. He stepped up in class and got his ass handed to him, it was going to happen somewhere down the line anyway.

They only missed 1 fight last night so i dont think it was terrible matchmaking.

i think people are over rating a loss on someone's record... losses are opportunities to learn and build on your weaknesses.

Nobody was calling Pirog a world beater before the fight, and many were predicting the American would come out on top. Just because the fight played out differently then what the majority was expecting, you can't blame match-making. An undefeated record means shit in boxing if you are not gonna face the best out there. I have much more respect for a losing fighter who takes chances in their careers, rather then an undefeated one taking an easy route to the top. I hate it when a fighter get's shitted on after a defeat against a relatively unknown opponent, especially when the opposing fighter goes on to have a good career himself. The Ortiz/Maidana fight comes to mind. Pirog may be untested at world level, but it's not like Jacobs lost to a journyman. Both men will likely go places, it was just that Pirog was more ready to shine and his time has come sooner. I blame match making in the sense that Jacobs was in no way prepared for a fighter like this. A match maker should have put him against guys earlier on in his career that would prepare him by giving him certain looks. Only name on Jacobs resume I can think of is Ishe Smith as Ishe gave applied pressure and brought a certain level of toughness that would help Jacobs against future fighters with similar attributes. I personally think its irresponsible to face a guy as awkward as Pirog for the first time on a stage like that. There are plenty of C and D class fighters GBP could have put Jacobs in early on in his career but were content with him facing bums who did nothing for him. This is what separates mediocre match making from great match making.

Nobody was calling Pirog a world beater before the fight, and many were predicting the American would come out on top. Just because the fight played out differently then what the majority was expecting, you can't blame match-making. An undefeated record means shit in boxing if you are not gonna face the best out there. I have much more respect for a losing fighter who takes chances in their careers, rather then an undefeated one taking an easy route to the top. I hate it when a fighter get's shitted on after a defeat against a relatively unknown opponent, especially when the opposing fighter goes on to have a good career himself. The Ortiz/Maidana fight comes to mind. Pirog may be untested at world level, but it's not like Jacobs lost to a journyman. Both men will likely go places, it was just that Pirog was more ready to shine and his time has come sooner.

Jacobs was at his cross road. Every young hit fighter hits it and they need to be challenged. Losing really isnt a big deal for him. He's young and losing can help his career a lot if he uses it to learn. GBP had to find out what they had in Jacobs anyway. The tougher his opponents, the less impressive he has looked. They needed to push him. I agree with what you are saying but why have a step up against a style you are not even prepared for? I mean I saw a look of confusion on Jacobs face in the very beginning of this fight. I have been watching young fighters for a long time and I follow a lot of these guys as amateurs. It seems Promoters are terrible now n days at building guys up, and this is why all of these young guys will continue to get exposed.