and marquez cant beat pacquaio at 147.
And also, Juan Diaz got straight schooled by Pauli, the same pauli who got shitted on by Amir Khan.
Really why you made this thread after we all know Juan Diaz is garbage.
At the end of the day, Pacquaio's best weight is at 147 and Marquez best weight is 135.
What i wanted to know is why marquez didnt fight amir khan. .
So who has Pac beat at 147? Not Cotto-- he was at 145-- and Clottey? Please Juan Diaz any day is more of a challenege than the Clottey Pac faced. We dont know what Pacs best weight is-- when he actually starts fighting top welterweights at the welterweight limit and beating them then you can make that argument, but right now we dont know.
I gave 2 of the first 4 rounds to Diaz then gave him the last 3 rounds. Marquez should have KOed him really, it was clear that Diaz couldnt handle his power. With a bit more workrate Diaz could of stole some of the middle rounds.
JMM only just beat Pacquiao, since then Pacquiaos got better whereas JMM has declined. Pacquiao will outweigh JMM on fight night by at least 10lbs even if the fight happened at 135. Pacquiao by KO in 2 rounds.
If Diaz had upped the pressure, he would have got KOed. I think he was scared of that, and avoided it as much as he could.
And I agree, Marquez should not fight Pacquiao. Pacquiao couldn't make 135 and be right, no way, and if the fight happens at at least 140 Pacquiao kills Marquez.
He won the second fight in the eyes of many.
Do it a third time.
At 135 Pacquiao.
Dammit JMM is good.
135lbs is pure JOKE
Pacquiao is just on another level to JMM at 140 +
Pacquiao by man slaughter
No.
I wasnt impressed with JMM at all. At times it looked like he couldnt pull the trigger anymore. Diaz never put him under the sort of pressue that Pacquiao would. I had it a close 7-5 fight win for JMM.
Diaz is no bum at 135, and he fought a very conservative boxing type style. He tried to fight like Marquez, and avoid the KO at all costs. And you really had the fight that close? Marquez was simply beating on Diaz.
As much as some people would tell you differently, Pac couldn't make 135 and be right anymore. If the fight was at 140, I still say Marquez doesn't belong there and Pac would just be too fast and too good at this point.
I would defintley pick Pacquiao to stop JMM above it tho .DelaHoya , Hatton , Cotto man . JMM would be to small I think . Paquiao would probably destroy him. I like him tho man JMM .He's a warrior and good for the sport to be boxing at that level at his age .Would defintley like to see him at LWW man.
Guess what, Marquez is older, Diaz fought a horrible fight plan, and Pac is better than when they fought the last time. All of those three= Marquez would lose to Pac again.
Oh, and Marquez should never ever fight above 135.
Of course Pac will lose to Marquez at 135 now. Its a fantasy fight, and Pac ALWAYS LOSES in fantasy fights.
common sense people!
bout time you guys are getting things now!
JMM is done, he looks good against a B grade fighter and that's all. JMM get's KO'd by Kahn and Katsidis.
Agreed. Paulie looked great against Diaz, even hurt the man.
If any of the top welters had to drop to 135, Marquez copuld beat them. It is called weight draining. Kind of makes the thread pointless I guess.
According to the Pactards Manny is a LW beating the best WW in the division. Arum, Ariza, and Pac's team said Manny can easily make 135 if they can find a big fight at 135.
If any of the top welters had to drop to 135, Marquez copuld beat them. It is called weight draining. Kind of makes the thread pointless I guess.
a welterweight who doesn't come in much more than 147 can make 135.
most welterweights come in around 160 that's why they can't make 135.
a small welter like pac can make 135 if he really wanted to.
if hatton and delahoya had kicked his ass at 147 and 140 , pacquiao would be fighting at 135 right now.
No he won't he is too old now.
If pacquiao had manned up after the first fight and gave him the rematch immediately he would have beaten him. Unfortunately his time has passed and its easily apparent.
Marquez will beat floyd at 135 right now too i'm very sure of it, i'm will to give a 5 to 1 odds.
The coward will never do that. Instead of fighting a guy in his own weight class or move up. He asked the old past his prime lightweight to move up his weight class and then cheated some more in a catchweight fight. Shameless coward!
I appreciate the kind words Burner, but I honestly sat watching tonights fight with sadness.
My man looked done in there. I know he won almost every round, but he just didn't look right to me.
:(
i know his best wins was at 135 but jmm never looked good to me since he 1st moved up there.
Why not? From what I read hes really a 135 Pounder who is stuffed with protein powder.
You know how we do, believe whatever you like...The facts are, Pac is not moving back down to 135.
So the topic is dead. Peace.