Roach sees PAC of today KOing Marquez, Valero, Bradley in rounds 3, 2, 1 respectively

Roach usually makes ridiculous predictions when you piss him off or he's trying to get into a fighter's head. For example, he said "If Khan doesn't KO Malignaggi in the first 3 rounds, then I will be ashamed of him". Khan was supposed to reenact the Salita fight. Well guess what, the Malignaggi fight didn't last 1, 2 or 3 rounds. It lasted 11. And I suppose Roach sees Khan as this disgraceful fighter now, right? Of course not. There's a reason why Roach wanted Hatton over Bradley. Of course Pac and Arum saw it as a MUCH better fight financially (which it obviously was, since nobody knew who Timmy was), but Roach saw it as a much easier fight. Bradley's durability would have carried him to around round 8 or 9 before getting knocked out and he might have even been able to steal a few rounds.

NO DUH!!! Pac is completely different. His style is completely different. Pac is more patient and boxes more now. Uses his right so much better. Better balance and footwork. Better defense. Accuracy is better, due to patience. Just a better fighter. He got slower though a bit.

definitely koing marquez today, bradley maybe, but valero hell no, Im so mad valero is dead, i was counting on his superstardom, pac would have passed the torch to valero in brutal exciting fashion....valero would have been a terror that nobody would want to fight...freddie roach is a lil delusional on the valero assessment

I think the welterweight version of Pacman does stop Marquez,I'm not sure when though!!Valero was too small & if they met inbetween Pacman would probably stop him early!!I think that if Bradley & Pacman ever fought that Pacman beats him,maybe stops him,but it'll be late,not early!!

in his earlier fights, pac got hit when he got countered, the only difference now is he has improved his movement so he doesnt get countered as much at all AND land the shots since he isnt getting countered the ped accusations are pathetic, they all come from fear of him knocking out a guy you support and an excuse to avoid him Pac is awesome but roach can cherry pick with the best of them. Theres a reson why he didnt fight certain people. I gave pac his due respect when he mopped up cotto. B4 that he just pretty good. The hatton and hoya fights fun to watch but the victories didnt make me acknowledge his skill

in his earlier fights, pac got hit when he got countered, the only difference now is he has improved his movement so he doesnt get countered as much at all AND land the shots since he isnt getting countered the ped accusations are pathetic, they all come from fear of him knocking out a guy you support and an excuse to avoid him Better testing is an excuse to avoid a fight?

You obviously are a pepsi generation, new booty ass boy.. So JMM wont catch him? Tell me, in both fights when did JMM have to chase Pac to catch him? "sub-level PED innuendo"????? Damn, never even mentioned PEDs. Guess you feel a cetain way, NOID in his earlier fights, pac got hit when he got countered, the only difference now is he has improved his movement so he doesnt get countered as much at all AND land the shots since he isnt getting countered the ped accusations are pathetic, they all come from fear of him knocking out a guy you support and an excuse to avoid him

He wouldn't stop Marquez that quick because Pac would have a mental block to begin the fight. He wouldn't fully open up until he realized the JMM he is fighting is not the same guy as the first two times. Valero going out in two, maybe. He wouldn't last long. As much as I think he creams Bradley, Pac wouldn't take him out in one. Probably between the 7th and the 9th.

agreed with roach......

People say Pac has not gained power, so how can he KO JMM? - he has a much better right hand and extremely improved lateral movement around the ring, JMM wouldn't catch him or counter him as much as before. Pac would land at will, doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. Now GTFOH with that sub-level PED innuendo :bottle: You obviously are a pepsi generation, new booty ass boy.. So JMM wont catch him? Tell me, in both fights when did JMM have to chase Pac to catch him? "sub-level PED innuendo"????? Damn, never even mentioned PEDs. Guess you feel a cetain way, NOID

I would love it if they never said hes gained power. Then nobody would question if he was on steroids, then he would be fighting mayweather. And you didn't say anything about how much better hes gotten skillwise in the last 2 fights. Pac pretty much has the same skill set as he ever did. Besides commiting more to using his right hand, There really is no difference skill wise that is. That does not mean he hasnt gotten better at doing what he does, but I just cant see him KOing JMM. And as for Roach being more vocal than ever, its just another thing that makes me wonder

JMM has been JMM his whole career..... Valero was the same Valero... Bradley, the same Bradley... What is going on with Pac these last 2 1/2 or 3 years that makes him able to KO a guy he couldnt before? Why now is all I'm asking. People say Pac has not gained power, so how can he KO JMM? People say Pac hasnt gained speed,... Pac hit JMM with everything in the book back then and JMM still tapped that ass. So what is it that makes Roach feel can NOW just KO guys? Hiding in plain sight... Boxing, the only sport where the guy asking for better tests gets bashed... I would love it if they never said hes gained power. Then nobody would question if he was on steroids, then he would be fighting mayweather. And you didn't say anything about how much better hes gotten skillwise in the last 2 fights.

He is just making a point that todays Pac is better than the Pac that lost to Morales etc.

JMM has been JMM his whole career..... Valero was the same Valero... Bradley, the same Bradley... What is going on with Pac these last 2 1/2 or 3 years that makes him able to KO a guy he couldnt before? Why now is all I'm asking. People say Pac has not gained power, so how can he KO JMM? People say Pac hasnt gained speed,... Pac hit JMM with everything in the book back then and JMM still tapped that ass. So what is it that makes Roach feel can NOW just KO guys? Hiding in plain sight... Boxing, the only sport where the guy asking for better tests gets bashed... People say Pac has not gained power, so how can he KO JMM? - he has a much better right hand and extremely improved lateral movement around the ring, JMM wouldn't catch him or counter him as much as before. Pac would land at will, doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. Now GTFOH with that sub-level PED innuendo :bottle:

JMM has been JMM his whole career..... Valero was the same Valero... Bradley, the same Bradley... What is going on with Pac these last 2 1/2 or 3 years that makes him able to KO a guy he couldnt before? Why now is all I'm asking. People say Pac has not gained power, so how can he KO JMM? People say Pac hasnt gained speed,... Pac hit JMM with everything in the book back then and JMM still tapped that ass. So what is it that makes Roach feel can NOW just KO guys? Hiding in plain sight... Boxing, the only sport where the guy asking for better tests gets bashed...