I honestly belive that Margarito didnt know about plaster in wraps!

If the substance wasn't there Margo would have had a multi million dollar lawsuit against the CSAC for suspending him with no solid evidence. As a fighter you know when something is in there, your knuckles are sensitive and you will feel them. If you want to believe there was nothing there keep the delusion. A member from the opposing fighter is suppose to be in the dressing room as they wrap their hands. For Naz account Margo wraps were on already and upon his inspection felt something abnormal. That is why you have officials in the room, anything in question they will demand to check out the gauze, fighter doesn't have an option in saying no if the official find that it is necessary to check or remove them If I understand right,commision said that everything is okay and Margarito s wraps are ready to go and then Nazim showed up and Margarito didnt need to open wraps but he volunteer it for! And Nazim is not saint either,he put his son ROCK ALLEN on steroids since he was baby boy! He even admitted that USADA was on his son s ass cuz he looked way stronger then other Olympians!

If the substance wasn't there Margo would have had a multi million dollar lawsuit against the CSAC for suspending him with no solid evidence. As a fighter you know when something is in there, your knuckles are sensitive and you will feel them. If you want to believe there was nothing there keep the delusion. A member from the opposing fighter is suppose to be in the dressing room as they wrap their hands. For Naz account Margo wraps were on already and upon his inspection felt something abnormal. That is why you have officials in the room, anything in question they will demand to check out the gauze, fighter doesn't have an option in saying no if the official find that it is necessary to check or remove them

You forget one of the inspectors said "Yes youre right nazim this wrap does feel odd"; marg throwing all the blame on his trainer; margs trainer crying and apologizing and tests coming back showing something in his wraps that shouldnt have been in there. The list goes on..But if you and the rest of the fringe wanna keep on go right ahead..:wave: Yea but like 2 or 3 inspectors said that he didnt knew according what IOLE said!

The only time I heard "blocks fell out of his hands" was from Naz's ugly ass mouth...not from the commisioners or any report I've read...how convenient, the guy just embellished the whole thing to cover his lies. You forget one of the inspectors said "Yes youre right nazim this wrap does feel odd"; marg throwing all the blame on his trainer; margs trainer crying and apologizing and tests coming back showing something in his wraps that shouldnt have been in there. The list goes on..But if you and the rest of the fringe wanna keep on go right ahead..:wave:

I honestly believe you are not serious. I honestly believe OJ did not know he had a knife in his hand.

yes he does but everybody inside the boxing world knows he never trained cintron, he oversaw some of his training and gave strategic advise, he spent the rest of his time on his cell phone cintron didnt leave him for shields for no reason u know u know...physicians with 20 decades of experience cant cure u if they dont know what to look for. its not like handwraps are the most obvious thing to look for u dont give ur boy tony enough credit, hes not a complete retard u know if he refused nazeem's request in front of the commissioners and with his trainer furiously refusing already how would that make him look? if he canceled his first fight in 7 months he wouldnt get a payday. he would have a huge questionmark over his career just like pacquiao has with the steroid theory I heard same thing about Emanuel Stewart! Dude is shitty trainer! My countryman Mario Preskar is sparring partner of Klitschko bro s and Mario s trainer said that Manny Stewart is just like adviser there. and I disagree on your Margarito s theory Its like million time worse that he showed this wraps to Nazim then that he didnt. I mean common,no one would even speak today that Margarito didnt want to open his wraps specially for Nazim!

I think you are wrong They look back then that SERGIO MARTINEZ is future champ and great prospect. Margarito was nobody back then! He deserve credit for that win! Lets not forget that Sergio was an athlete that decided to take up boxing late at 20. Not like most boxers out there that start in their teens. Also, this fight was his first fight outside Argentina. It doesn't hold nearly the same weight as a defeat of Martinez today.

I think you are wrong They look back then that SERGIO MARTINEZ is future champ and great prospect. Margarito was nobody back then! He deserve credit for that win! I think that win at that time validated Margarito as a B class fighter not much more than that. He deserved some credit but his win against Antonio Diaz was much more meaningful win as he was a proven fighter and had accomplishments.

Yea but its kind a strange that even Manny Stewart never found it in Cinton 2 fight. And he has like 60 years experience in boxing ! yes he does but everybody inside the boxing world knows he never trained cintron, he oversaw some of his training and gave strategic advise, he spent the rest of his time on his cell phone cintron didnt leave him for shields for no reason u know You see now this is where it just gets ridiculous, you are meaning to tell me that other corners specially a guy who's been around the game for years in Manny Steward, George Peterson, and many other known trainers and countless of commisioners who have inspected Tony's wraps in the past have NEVER detected any tampering or "plaster of paris"??? that is just ridiculous and you should know better than that, out of all the people in this forum you are one I actually respect and trust your better knowledge, but this has got to be the dumbest thing I have read from you. u know...physicians with 20 decades of experience cant cure u if they dont know what to look for. its not like handwraps are the most obvious thing to look for Would you show your wraps to Nazim if you knew that you have bricks in your wraps and commision said that you dont need to do it? u dont give ur boy tony enough credit, hes not a complete retard u know if he refused nazeem's request in front of the commissioners and with his trainer furiously refusing already how would that make him look? if he canceled his first fight in 7 months he wouldnt get a payday. he would have a huge questionmark over his career just like pacquiao has with the steroid theory

The Martinez win has about as much weight as Manny being KO'd against Sinsurat. That was Martinez's 18th fight in his life. Martinez won his first title 3 years after that fight. And that is why that win does not hold as much weight as you think. He didn't beat middleweight champ Martinez. He beat green un tested 17 fights of life boxing experience Martinez. I think you know there is a big difference between the two. I think you are wrong They look back then that SERGIO MARTINEZ is future champ and great prospect. Margarito was nobody back then! He deserve credit for that win!

when did margarito beat sergio?in sergio's 15th pro fight?why didn't he fight sergio now?didn't sergio wanna fight against margarito? sergio is not that same inexperienced fighter anymore and margarito and his team know that why else would they not want to fight the man with the most buzz around him now outside of floyd and pacquiao. what big wins did martinez and cintron have by the time they fought margarito? no one Margarito had like 2 or 3 losses back then when he fought Martinez and Martinez was undefeated prospect! And Martinez doesnt want to fight Margarito now,if he wanted then Margarito would agree immediatly!

damn right and I totally forgot that MARGARITO is the only one who beat living shit out of middleweight champ MARTINEZ! If I remember right he even dropped him in round 1! Cintron 2X,Martinez and Cotto is decent resume and he had wrong gameplan against Paul Williams if he started faster he would won that fighT! The Martinez win has about as much weight as Manny being KO'd against Sinsurat. That was Martinez's 18th fight in his life. Martinez won his first title 3 years after that fight. And that is why that win does not hold as much weight as you think. He didn't beat middleweight champ Martinez. He beat green un tested 17 fights of life boxing experience Martinez. I think you know there is a big difference between the two.

damn right and I totally forgot that MARGARITO is the only one who beat living shit out of middleweight champ MARTINEZ! If I remember right he even dropped him in round 1! Cintron 2X,Martinez and Cotto is decent resume and he had wrong gameplan against Paul Williams if he started faster he would won that fighT! when did margarito beat sergio?in sergio's 15th pro fight?why didn't he fight sergio now?didn't sergio wanna fight against margarito? sergio is not that same inexperienced fighter anymore and margarito and his team know that why else would they not want to fight the man with the most buzz around him now outside of floyd and pacquiao. what big wins did martinez and cintron have by the time they fought margarito? no one

he just lost by robbery SD over WILLIAMS he won all 4 rounds against Williams in my opinionand in worse case should be 3-1 for Cintron! and you cant change the fact that he had draw with Martinez even do everyone thinks Martinez won like 10 rounds and KO d him People who argue that Cintron deserved the Williams decision are idiots. The guy jumped out of the ring and said he couldn't continue, until he realized he was down on the cards....then all the sudden the refs "stopped" him from continuing. Williams was starting slow, in that round he landed a few really good shots and looked to be coming back. .....either way, how many of Margarito's fights would he have lost had a decision been given in round 4.......Cotto's the first that comes to my mind, and he arguably lost the first 5-6.

he just lost by robbery SD over WILLIAMS he won all 4 rounds against Williams in my opinionand in worse case should be 3-1 for Cintron! and you cant change the fact that he had draw with Martinez even do everyone thinks Martinez won like 10 rounds and KO d him this is exactly my point i say cintron beat no one and you bring up the 4 round williams fight where he flew out the ring, i had 2-2 but i didn't really think it was fair to score the 4th round and he lost then you name another fight where cintron also didn't win which proves my point that cintron has beat no one cintron has a name because he has punching power and was at 1 point a p.r prospct

he just lost by robbery SD over WILLIAMS he won all 4 rounds against Williams in my opinionand in worse case should be 3-1 for Cintron! and you cant change the fact that he had draw with Martinez even do everyone thinks Martinez won like 10 rounds and KO d him I thought Williams lost that fight as well they should've appeal that to try to make that a No Contest its a shame that goes as a loss but all that would have proven was that Cintron can hold his own for 4 rounds against williams it wouldn't have been a real win.

idk about all this but even if this is the case nazim could of pulled out of the fight that could be a reason for margarito to unwrap his hands for nazim or if margarito refused to unwrap his hands there would of been suspicion of margarito cheatin anyway because he would had refused I dont know about that I remeber when Roach said he had same thing with Barrera,and he lost the case with commision and fight went on!

Yeah thats not a world title though you know that. damn right and I totally forgot that MARGARITO is the only one who beat living shit out of middleweight champ MARTINEZ! If I remember right he even dropped him in round 1! Cintron 2X,Martinez and Cotto is decent resume and he had wrong gameplan against Paul Williams if he started faster he would won that fighT!

Commision said that he didnt need to unwrap cuz everything was okay in their opinion and then Nazim said its to hard can he unwrap it and I understand that commision said that everything is okay that he doesnt need to do it and MARGARITO volunteer to unwrap it for Nazim and he didnt need to do it! I mean what you gonna say that he wanted to be cought,its just doesnt make sense! If he knew that plaster is in his wraps,then he would never volunteer to unwrap it for Nazim cuz he didnt need to do it! idk about all this but even if this is the case nazim could of pulled out of the fight that could be a reason for margarito to unwrap his hands for nazim or if margarito refused to unwrap his hands there would of been suspicion of margarito cheatin anyway because he would had refused