This was Arum's plan to make Manny vs Tony

there really isn't any good reason why he couldn't wait 4 or 5 more days until Roger's trial

and floyd will go on another vacation, right? damn ducker :lol1: So unoriginal.

So what? Margarito and Pacquiao is going to be a CLASSIC WAR. This is no Gatti vs Ward match-up my friend. Margarito is a sitting duck in that ring vs Pacquiao but I will appreciate the vicious beating this guy is going to take...he deserves it.

no Floyd isn't interested in boxing anymore Arum brought in Pac-Tony as a replacement

They better hope that the fight do $1M buys, or it's gonna be the same drama over and over. What leverage are they gonna use this time? Oh yeah, the media. Right. They will, once again, have NO leverage trying to make this fight next year.

true obviously this was Arums preferred fight I honestly believe he just wanted to give the impression that he has at least trying to make the Mayweather fight. but whatever this is just Arum being Arum Yes he got the president of hbo to follow his scheme. Wtf are you people talking about. Arum is about that cash and this is the biggest money fight out there why wouldn't he be interested.

Arum all along preferred another in-house Top Rank fight over Pac-May IMO, but that doesn't excuse Floyd. Ross Greenburg is more believable to me than Team Mayweather. Hopefully there is more that meets the eye and they will fight. Something strange to me about Arum constantly defending Floyd in that "deadline" interview and not bashing him. People have said that Arum was being nice because he was hoping Floyd would still agree to the fight, but Arum's always had a tough time biting his tongue when it comes to criticizing Floyd.

Thank you! I swore I was the only one on here who sees this...and not only is Tony going to be jobbing to Manny Pacquaio, but so did Clottey. Shamefully, Clottey wasn't well versed on how to expertly job and throw a fight. You don't stand in a corner with your arms up before the opening bell. Oh well...hey, at least this fight will do 800K and all will go well. And what the hell did Marquez deserve to get a fight with Mayweather @ WW. Hmmmm Marquez @ WW and 20 lbs heavier than he ever fought before. Yup never saw that one coming. And the fight was delayed until Mexican Independence day too...Like that wasn't made to be a dive of a fight. Might as well have Mayweather make another "Undefeated" event with Calderon and have him move up to WW too. Bradly is a good fighter but doesn't have the fan base as Margarito and the fact is there are more Mexican fans out there willing to pay to see their boxer fight Pac than there are fans in the US willing to pay cash to see Bradley get beat. It comes down to money but get your conspiracy theory crap out of here as well. Clottey had no more of a chance than Cotto did. The same Vegas odds makers also chose Myweather over Mosley so I guess they plan it all huh.

Thank you! I swore I was the only one on here who sees this...and not only is Tony going to be jobbing to Manny Pacquaio, but so did Clottey. Shamefully, Clottey wasn't well versed on how to expertly job and throw a fight. You don't stand in a corner with your arms up before the opening bell. Oh well...hey, at least this fight will do 800K and all will go well. They better hope that the fight do $1M buys, or it's gonna be the same drama over and over. What leverage are they gonna use this time? Oh yeah, the media.

here is an interesting Fact: just this year Mayweather offered Manny a purse parity a 14 day's testing cutoff with the 10 mill per pound penalty and Manny's choice of glove and the date of the fight 1) Fact check that "choice of glove" actually being in the contract 2) 10 mil per pound penalty had a basis given WW limit is @ 147 and Mayweather DID go over the weight limit and it had a basis 3) When Golden Boy was asked by Zab Judah for Olympic Style Testing during his bout against Mosley, Golden Boy responded that only if the Nevada Athletic Commission sets the rules and will only adhere to additional testing if the commission requires it 4) Interesting how with respect to point #3 above, Golden Boy has forgotten they even said that Oh and the bottom below points are casual observations too that I think should be clarified: 5) Sugar Ray Robinson went around beating the sh*t out of boxers sometimes in as little as 3 times in 2 months. If you want to be the best, have got to be more active in the ring to cement that claim of "bext boxer ever". 6) If Floyd intends to retire w/out facing Pac, then its his choice. He doesn't owe the public or boxing anything. However the public holds the right to also determine his place in history and it won't be what Floyd claims; he isn't the best fighter ever, he'll always be ranked below Pac. 7) With regards to point #6 his place in history also is determined by the fact that Golden Boy, Schaeffer and Ellerbe all lied about the story. Greenburg has a tighter relationship with Golden Boy than Top Rank and if he was to lie, he'd benefit more backing up Golden Boy's version of events. 8) Margarito doesn't deserve a fight with Pac but he has a huge base of Maxican fans still which exceed Bradley, Alexander and Pwill and possibly Martinez. No matter what, any fight Pac takes does take a bit from him and I can respect his willingness to fight still. And this I feel is the most important point: 9) Floyd can feel he's the sh*t or whatever but there is no one else he can take on other than Pac. He can argue about the purse but fact is he can ask for 65% with any other fight and still he won't make half of what he'll make taking Pac. He doesn't get to dictate the terms of everything at his convenience because Pac is the only legit dance partner he has. The weight penalty has a basis (he was overweight for Marquez), the basis for Olympic style testing is Mayweather Sr who claims Pac takes steroids and a drug that he claims is made so soldiers don't feel anything, even bullets (like really...like seriously r u fking kidding me....this is the evidence for Pac on roids....sh*t even George Bush with weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was far more believable than these statements from Mayweather). Frankly nuthuggers for Mayweather will always nuthug their man and believe Aurum and Greenburg were lying. It doesn't matter if Mayweather doesn't want to fight, but that also means we don't have to subject ourselves to him saying he's better than Sugar Ray Robinson or Sugar Ray Leonard. Yea w/e Floyd Jr. Guess the dementia is hitting you earlier than it hit your dad when you make statements like that.

This fight is a farce, in all honesty. Firstly, why does Margarito even deserve a fight with Manny at this juncture? Secondly, there's no way in HELL that Margarito beats Manny. He's doing the J-O-B in this one. No way Arum even takes the chance of having Tony beat Manny in there. Tony will take a dive and make millions in the process. He's not going to go full-tilt with Manny. Not a chance. Arum won't allow that. Thank you! I swore I was the only one on here who sees this...and not only is Tony going to be jobbing to Manny Pacquaio, but so did Clottey. Shamefully, Clottey wasn't well versed on how to expertly job and throw a fight. You don't stand in a corner with your arms up before the opening bell. Oh well...hey, at least this fight will do 800K and all will go well.

I think he did a great job at forcing Floyd to accepted his so called "terms". I never thought that i would say this, but i don't care if the fight never happen. Neither of them will fully sacrifice anything, and of course everyone knows Floyd will be forced more to bend over because Manny has the media full support 110%. If it happen, it happen. But i think Pacquiao and team deserved to taste their own medicine.

Let the sheeps believe anything they want.

This thread would make a little sense if Mayweather wanted the fight in the first place... He didn't, so you're a f*cking moron. here is an interesting Fact: just this year Mayweather offered Manny a purse parity a 14 day's testing cutoff with the 10 mill per pound penalty and Manny's choice of glove and the date of the fight

This thread would make a little sense if Mayweather wanted the fight in the first place... He didn't, so you're a f*cking moron.

All Mayweather had to do is give the nod for the fight and call Manny's bluff.. You're right, he could have. Same goes for Manny. Could've called his bluff like Shane did. Could've beaten Floyd and been called best P4p fighter of the welter weight division.

All Mayweather had to do is give the nod for the fight and call Manny's bluff..

An in house fight of course, this was one of Arums plan B I read.

Of course I'll tune in, It's going to be a war. Not a boring ass 12 rounds of pot shotting or some black dude ramming someone with his head like if he was a billy goat. yeah its going to be Clottey vs pac type of war :nonono: groupies like you make it so easy for Arum the guy don't even try to be subtle about it anymore

On February 16, 2010, we read an article about Manny fighting Tony in November of this year. We have Tony saying that Arum promised him a Manny fight. This was from February 22nd, 2010. Then on March 19th, 2010, Arum says that Manny vs Margarito is still on schedule for November. http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=26168 It doesn't end there though. July 23rd, 2010, the fight is signed and ready to go. http://www.boxingscene.com/index.php?m=show&id=29501 This was Arum's plan all along. SMH. :nonono: Great breakdown..............