If Margarito comes in at 151-154 lbs in November, is there a weight limit penalty? Let's say he weighs 152 lbs at the weigh in. Since the fight is for the 154 lb title, how much would he have to pay manny, $2 million? Would he still be eligible to win the title? Anyone know?
With all due respect Tony doesn't have to agree to it either, nobody is forcing him to fight at that weight. And how is it disgraceful come on now he's fighting a man who naturally is two weight classes bigger than him it evens out for christ sake!
I hate that argument, only with Pac have I seen people making this ridiculous, "well hes naturally bigger, so its ok" point. Aren't you supposed to fight guys who are naturally bigger than you when you go up in class? Isn't the idea to challenge yourself against bigger competition? When RJJ went up to heavy he didn't make Ruiz weigh in at a catch weight. Catchweights shouldn't be used to even the playing field, otherwise this 8th belt is meaningless as he tries to turn a junior middle into a welter.
Semantically you are correct. Respectfully, the 154 lb champ can defend his title against anyone under 154 lbs. So a 147 lb fighter can fight and win the 154 lb title. As for this fight, if marg comes in at 151-154, he may/may not be eligible to win the title.
Yes a 150 lb fight is a jr mw fight we agree. But if you are fighting for the 154 lb title that should be the max weight you can come in at.
If he has to pay a penalty or is ineligible to win the 154 lb title by coming in at 151-154 lbs then THAT IS DISGRACEFUL!!
With all due respect Tony doesn't have to agree to it either, nobody is forcing him to fight at that weight. And how is it disgraceful come on now he's fighting a man who naturally is two weight classes bigger than him it evens out for christ sake!
I imagine these boards would get hectic if they don't put a clause in the contract for a weight penalty (or one that's hefty enough). Margarito comes in at 151.5, and then rehydrates to super middle weight.
Things would get real ugly real fast.
how can it be jr middleweight division if you cant weigh more than 150 ? margarito would get penalised for coming in at 151 152 153 154 in a ****in jmw title bout ! its disrespect to every real champions who win titles without this bullshit
Because 150 pounds is the jr middle weight class. And both fighters are gonna agree to it so once again I don't understand why you Floyd fans are making a big deal out of nothing. Seems like a waste of time to discredit a Pac over something that hasnt even happened yet.
Going by the Pacquiao camps steady increase in weight penalty figures it will probably be 1 thumb cut off per pound and his life if he weighs in at 153+.
Dumbass
It Pacquiao doesnt make the weight also,then he will pay to Margarito!
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you get dumber every day. at least you made up some shit yesterday
It's not for the 154 title I don't know why you keep saying that, it's for the Junior Middleweight title and any fight where both fighters weigh in between 148-154 pounds are fighting in the junior middleweight division. 154 pounds is just the maximum limit to be considered a junior middleweight.
I'm sorry there Dunn I respect your opinion but trying to argue numbers is litttle overboard here.
The "Junior middleweight" division is any fight that occurs between 148-154 pounds. Any fight!
Semantically you are correct. Respectfully, the 154 lb champ can defend his title against anyone under 154 lbs. So a 147 lb fighter can fight and win the 154 lb title. As for this fight, if marg comes in at 151-154, he may/may not be eligible to win the title.
Yes a 150 lb fight is a jr mw fight we agree. But if you are fighting for the 154 lb title that should be the max weight you can come in at.
If he has to pay a penalty or is ineligible to win the 154 lb title by coming in at 151-154 lbs then THAT IS DISGRACEFUL!!
It's not for the 154 title I don't know why you keep saying that, it's for the Junior Middleweight title and any fight where both fighters weigh in between 148-154 pounds are fighting in the junior middleweight division. 154 pounds is just the maximum limit to be considered a junior middleweight.
I'm sorry there Dunn I respect your opinion but trying to argue numbers is litttle overboard here.
The "Junior middleweight" division is any fight that occurs between 148-154 pounds. Any fight!
how can it be jr middleweight division if you cant weigh more than 150 ? margarito would get penalised for coming in at 151 152 153 154 in a ****in jmw title bout ! its disrespect to every real champions who win titles without this bullshit
Stop blaming floyd fans man. If manny didn't demand 150 there would be nothing any floyd fan can say. You just use that because you know the pac marg fight at 150 lbs for the 154 lb title is an absolute disgrace.
It's not for the 154 title I don't know why you keep saying that, it's for the Junior Middleweight title and any fight where both fighters weigh in between 148-154 pounds are fighting in the junior middleweight division. 154 pounds is just the maximum limit to be considered a junior middleweight.
I'm sorry there Dunn I respect your opinion but trying to argue numbers is litttle overboard here.
The "Junior middleweight" division is any fight that occurs between 148-154 pounds. Any fight!
Thats were your wrong dunn I don't give a crap about catch weights no matter who it is. The 154 weight limit is exactly that, the Maximum weight a fighter can weigh to be considered a junior middle. Any fight that takes place between 154-148 pounds is a junior middleweight fight so their is no controversy to be made here except that Floyd fans are as usual overexagerrating things to discredit Pac possiably having 8 titles in 8 divisions.
Stop blaming floyd fans man. If manny didn't demand 150 there would be nothing any floyd fan can say. You just use that because you know the pac marg fight at 150 lbs for the 154 lb title is an absolute disgrace.
Stop it pistol whip. The 150 lb limit is disgraceful. If it ws anyone but manny you'd condemn it.
Thats were your wrong dunn I don't give a crap about catch weights no matter who it is. The 154 weight limit is exactly that, the Maximum weight a fighter can weigh to be considered a junior middle. Any fight that takes place between 154-148 pounds is a junior middleweight fight so their is no controversy to be made here except that Floyd fans are as usual overexagerrating things to discredit Pac possiably having 8 titles in 8 divisions.
so i guess marg is a threat cause team manny always does catchweights when they in doubt. what kind of legacy/history is it when u win a title in 7th and maybe 8th division on catchweights..str8 bullshit
The weight limit thing again? Why is this weight thing so important to Floyd fans when none of the actual fighters had a problem with it?
Stop it pistol whip. The 150 lb limit is disgraceful. If it ws anyone but manny you'd condemn it.