haha, so much power he couldnt put JMM out. getting wobbled all throughout the fight. PEDs work wonders.
god made man, man makes PEDs, i guess that indirectly comes from god. hahaha
And who exactly has put out Marquez?
Oh and who knocked him down 4 times?
Oh and who won?
Let me guess, Floyd:bukkake:
Well obviously its not happening. So we move on.
Martinez is a great Plan B.
If hes gonna fight him, Fight him NOW. I dont wanna see Sergio have 2 more fights inbetween. But it looks like Floyd wont fight in a least the next half a year and Sergio will have a fight by then
If he Fights him now, i will give him all the credit in the world
I seriously dont get the obsession with Mayweather.
Someone explain to me why they swear by this guy, and he made no wrong moves in their eyes. It just blows my mind.
There is no fighter/sport team that I would agree with every single thing they did.
So Floyd is going to fight a bigger Martinez for half of what he'd make for fighting a smaller Pacquaio? I'd be impressed, but I'll believe it when I actually see it.
all we do know, its that cotto wanted no parts of floyd at 140 and he never called floyd out at 147
Here ya go:
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=11683
Cotto calls May out on his BS...served him up as being bitch made
When everyone was talking Mayweather-Pacquiao, I was talking Mayweather-Martinez. This is much better, and I don't want to go through that same shit over again.
That would be a great fight, Mayweather won't accept a challenge from a "great little fighter" much less a great bigger fighter
When everyone was talking Mayweather-Pacquiao, I was talking Mayweather-Martinez. This is much better, and I don't want to go through that same shit over again.
all we do know, its that cotto wanted no parts of floyd at 140 and he never called floyd out at 147
Cotto spoke of Mayweather many times in publication...so he never called him out on TV, big whoop...he is a fighter and not a promoter...it was always his stance. He said many times that he'd love to fight Cotto. It was the biggest fight in boxing 2 years ago and Floyd said on TV that he lives to far and needs to be his own boss and then when Larry Merchant talked about the Cotto fight, he said he won't let boxing retire him.
But yeah whatever...Cotto would fight Jesus Christ if you put him in front of Cotto
I can see your point, Pacquiao has proved his worth at 140 and 147. Marquez didnt have his chance but fighters have gone from 135 to 147 with success before. Marquez looked terrible, But I think he looked bad because of what he was up against. Not because of the weight, I think the result would have been exactly the same at 130 or 135.
I dont understand people saying Floyd elected not to fight Cotto, Floyd said he wanted the fight but it didnt happen. In situations like that you have to look at who is promoting the guys, Arum had Mayweather and Cotto at the same time when they were both champions at 140. But he was feuding with Mayweather at the time, Proberbly saw his exit coming and knew Cotto would be his next cash cow. So he wanted to keep building him, That's my theory anyway.
Yeah, I'm sure Floyd would beat JMM at any weight and at any point in their careers, still doesn't mean a jump like that is a viable thing. JMM is just a small guy.
The Cotto/Floyd fight was being built up similar to how Pac/Floyd currently is. 2008 was the perfect fight and the perfect status builder for both fighters. Undefeated prime fighters. Cotto was a machine and Floyd the technician...everyone said, what would Floyd do when he realizes that hit pot shots would have 0 effect on Cotto and Cotto would come to murder his body...it would have been huge. Cotto went everywhere and said the fight would be great but he can't force May into the ring. It was his version of a call-out. May went on TV and said he lives to far and that he needs to be his own boss. It was shameful but I got over it, figured Cotto was just one guy that he wanted no part of and would move onto other fights. Then he mysteriously retires.
I can see your point, Pacquiao has proved his worth at 140 and 147. Marquez didnt have his chance but fighters have gone from 135 to 147 with success before. Marquez looked terrible, But I think he looked bad because of what he was up against. Not because of the weight, I think the result would have been exactly the same at 130 or 135.
I dont understand people saying Floyd elected not to fight Cotto, Floyd said he wanted the fight but it didnt happen. In situations like that you have to look at who is promoting the guys, Arum had Mayweather and Cotto at the same time when they were both champions at 140. But he was feuding with Mayweather at the time, Proberbly saw his exit coming and knew Cotto would be his next cash cow. So he wanted to keep building him, That's my theory anyway.
Floyd is full of contradictions. He also said Cotto is not a draw and he lives too far away.
10 years ago when Martinez didnt know shit about boxing?
You have to be kidding me Chicano. So you're saying that Margarito fought the Martinez we see today?
Tho id hate to agree with Ceiling, ima have to on this one. Marg would get ktfo by martinez now days
He would get full credit from me, Pac is legit anywhere from 135 to 147, he's already shown it. The guy isn't small, he's built like a tank. Pac already defeated Cotto, the guy Mayweather elected not to fight, he's WW made...If Mayweather wins, it would be his greatest accomplishment.
JMM fight was a sham, he jumped from 135 to 147 with no fights in between and he's 36. His fighting shape was that of a man who looked like he ate 6 cakes just to make 144 the night before the weigh in. Pac is built for these weights and JMM wasn't
I can see your point, Pacquiao has proved his worth at 140 and 147. Marquez didnt have his chance but fighters have gone from 135 to 147 with success before. Marquez looked terrible, But I think he looked bad because of what he was up against. Not because of the weight, I think the result would have been exactly the same at 130 or 135.
I dont understand people saying Floyd elected not to fight Cotto, Floyd said he wanted the fight but it didnt happen. In situations like that you have to look at who is promoting the guys, Arum had Mayweather and Cotto at the same time when they were both champions at 140. But he was feuding with Mayweather at the time, Proberbly saw his exit coming and knew Cotto would be his next cash cow. So he wanted to keep building him, That's my theory anyway.
How quick we forget that Pac chose Clottey over Mayweather.
Fighting a Top 10 P4Pounder for the Lineal Title is not a good move?? On what planet?
It ain't a good move when he just turned down a fight with the greatest fighter on the planet who gave up (seemingly) contract demands to Floyd to appease him to fight. Last month, Pac and Roach said they would call Floyd's bluff and they did
Floyd went on TV and said Pac accepts RDT, that he would fight...LIVE TV. Pac accepts and still won't fight
Edit: Yeah, he chose Clottey over Mayweather, after Mayweather made all these allegations and demanded unprecedented RDT for the first time in his career. I don't really blame Pac for saying **** you to him...Floyd tried smearing him and doing something really out of whack, and finally it just came full circle. Team Pac called his bluff and exposed him as being bitch made. I wished he would've fought someone other than Clottey but whatever.
Hahaha, Once again. He would not get the credit, If he decisioned Pacquiao they would say he ran or it was a boring fight. If he knocked him out then you would say "He was the bigger man" or "He's supposed to win, Pacquiao has already been knocked out before".
I mean, Mayweather already completely dominated the guy who most feel beat Pacquiao. So when he beats Pacquiao, It wont be too different.
I dont think so anyway, But I guess we'll see.
He would get full credit from me, Pac is legit anywhere from 135 to 147, he's already shown it. The guy isn't small, he's built like a tank. Pac already defeated Cotto, the guy Mayweather elected not to fight, he's WW made...If Mayweather wins, it would be his greatest accomplishment.
JMM fight was a sham, he jumped from 135 to 147 with no fights in between and he's 36. His fighting shape was that of a man who looked like he ate 6 cakes just to make 144 the night before the weigh in. Pac is built for these weights and JMM wasn't
So Martinez is great Plan B but Pac can't fight Margarito WHO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF MARTINEZ??
Come on now. Don't be silly, Margarito beat Martinez 10 years ago and cheated for possibly his whole career. Martinez is the lineal Middleweight champion, Meaning he would be a huge win for Floyd.
Margarito is disgraced. Nobody cares about him anymore.