he OTHER GUY Who has been strangely silent during all of this:

This is a good thing, actually. Yeah, it's best not to open up a can of worms :lol1:

Not only that, but Roach didnt think Shane was good business. Damn straight. I don't think he really though shane would win,he wanted shane to win,but i don't think anyone could actually think a old man(who struggled with mayorga) would beat floyd. Where've YOU been? A lot of people thought Shane had what it took to beat Floyd. Besides, Shane begged for a fight with Manny to the point of offering to move down in weight and he was still rejected.

it's not unexpected at all , roach said he would stay away from negotiations http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=28195

This is a good thing, actually.

Can't blame him. He's still speechless after watching the surgical dismantling of Shane Mosley back in May. He honestly thought Shane would kill Floyd. I don't think he really though shane would win,he wanted shane to win,but i don't think anyone could actually think a old man(who struggled with mayorga) would beat floyd.

Can't blame him. He's still speechless after watching the surgical dismantling of Shane Mosley back in May. He honestly thought Shane would kill Floyd. Not only that, but Roach didnt think Shane was good business.

Can't blame him. He's still speechless after watching the surgical dismantling of Shane Mosley back in May. He honestly thought Shane would kill Floyd.

bwhahahaha.... look at these flomo apologists shitting on themselves trying to find something to distract people from fraud jr's duckage of pacquiao http://i48.tinypic.com/2zrp05v.gif .

bwhahahaha.... look at these flomo apologists shitting on themselves trying to find something to distract people from fraud jr's duckage of pacquiao http://i48.tinypic.com/2zrp05v.gif

bwhahahaha.... look at these flomo apologists shitting on themselves trying to find something to distract people from fraud jr's duckage of pacquiao

Roach has lost weight since that picture. When was that? Probably before/after one of Hopkins' fights. (judging by "affliction" T-shirt)

http://squabbles.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/freddie_roach.jpg Not this guy's style at all. The whole damn thing is just so surreal. Roach has lost weight since that picture. When was that?

I think Roach just really wants this fight to happen

He's trying not to scare Floyd away you know.