Mayweather vs Pac...could be made next week..

No cure for Pactardation.. Flomo got own hahaha!!!!

I already proved my point......but you are too dumb to understand. Debating with Pactards really is pointless, They can't even understand simple logic. Oh well. And your point was? You are just as retarded as the thread starter. You go too much out of context because off your butts hurting when anything negative is said about Floyd. Re-read my first posts again and you'd probably get the exact point of the conversation. I am not talking about drug testing, nor am I talking about whether the drug testing is justified, or whether there were needs for drug testing. All I'm trying to ****ing say is that whether directly or indirectly, Floyd has talked shit and has tarnished Pacquiao's reputation in some way as response to this. Floyd Mayweather hasnt said anything about pacman or tarnished his name in anyway...Top Rank should do the same.. I bolded it and quoted it out for you. You ****ing out of context retards. You can't even keep up to a conversation. It's so ****ing funny when you guys don't have anything to say anymore, you mention the word pactard despite not knowing the fact that I also am a fan of Floyd. ****ing retard haters.

First off, I never claimed that Mayweather said that Pacquiao was on roids. I only claimed that by doing what he did and by saying the things he said, those who blindly follow him has believed that Pacquiao is on roids. Oh and if this does not imply that he believes that Pacquiao is taking roids then I don't know what will : "A fighter doesn't start off like Manny Pacquiao, just ordinary, and then once he gets over the age of 25 he becomes and extraordinary fighter. It just doesn't work like that in this sport of boxing," Are you really going to play dumb just to prove your point? Are you telling me that his drug testing request is really just a crusade to clean up the sports? Wow. I know you're not this dumb based on how you write. You are right on some point though, there are only two possibilities on why Mayweather would request OST, either he suspects Pacquiao, or he is scared of Pacquiao. I believe you and I won't like the latter answer so I'll just stick to the him being suspicious. I already proved my point......but you are too dumb to understand. Debating with Pactards really is pointless, They can't even understand simple logic. Oh well.

Im was a Pac fan, but the bias view towards him and the way that people hype him up sickens me. You pac fans have made me not like the dude what so ever. You guys have created this bad blood in boxing that will never go away. When FLoyd was on top of the world before he retired there was no Manny Pacquiao Floyd talk. After Manny Pacquiao beat Oscar at 147 a weight he hadnt fought at in over a decade, the people said WHERES FLoyd? We want to see Floyd vs Manny. SO what did Floyd do? He did what he always does and thats try to give the fans what they want. He came out of retirement which he said he wouldnt do unless a big fight presented itself, which was Manny. He made the announcement on the night of Manny vs Hatton, Floyd was showing Manny no respect then cuz he wanted to fight him. If Floyd was so scared of Manny he wouldve just stayed retired but he didnt. He fought Marquez to prove that he too can beat an opponent better then Pac can, just like Pac was beating Opponents better then Floyd did. It was all to make a mega fight. Then from the Jump Floyds father told him to have him tested and Roach said thats fine he can be tested anytime. They threw that weight clause in the contract, they asked for 50/50, they asked for glove size, ring size. ANd when Floyd agreed to all the terms, they said the testing was wrong, backed out and fought clottey. Floyd went on to face Shane who is a more dangerous opponent then CLottey. Shane was the WW champ and he dominated him. But all you fans say is "floyd is scared, he only fights small guys"...that shit is dumb! I don't care about your sentiments to be honest. I don't care whethere you like Pacquiao, hates his fans, love Floyd, or whatsoever. I don't care about you quite frankly. I like Pacquiao because of Pacquiao, I like Floyd because of Floyd's boxing skills. I don't hate on anybody because of their fans, I don't like Floyd's attitude for example but he simply just WOWs me every time he fights. That's what I care about, B-O-X-I-N-G. Not a fighter's fan, not you, not anybody.

Man gtfo with your i was a pac fan thats ****ing bullshit and nobody believes it :/ .

Excuses for not testing: 1) against his religion 2) Its zaps him and makes him weak for days 3)Scared of needles 4)Thats how he lost to Erik 5)It gave him hematoma in his elbow 6)Arum said fighters can get aids and Hep B 7) Floyd hasnt asked anyone else to do it 8)The commission didnt ask for it 9)The take way too much blood You can honestly sit here and say that Floyd knew that if he asked for a blood test all this would follow? If Manny would've said "you can test me anytime, im clean". It wouldve been over with and done right then in there, but when one starts refusing such a little test, thats when your reputation falls in the mud. And since when do you need proof that an athlete is using peds before testing them? There was no proof that Mosley, Vargus, James Toney was cheating but they all tested positive. There was no evidence that McGuire, Marrion Jones was cheating but they tested positive or came clean about cheating. There was no evidence that Margarito had cheated Cotto, but he got banned for cheating cotto. They check fighters hand wraps before fights, why not test them before fights. You dont need proof to test people. My question for Manny is...Why wouldnt he want FLoyd to test? Why doesnt he care rather his opponent is cheating or not? Dont say cuz hes not a pussy. Regardless if you can beat your opponent if hes clean or not its the principle of it. That fighter shouldnt be in the ring, or making millions if he is cheating to get to the top..:owned: This is getting out of hand, the topic has been if Floyd was talking shit to Pacquiao. Well the simple answer is yes he has been. He's been calling Pacquiao ordinary, implying that he is using PEDSs, saying that Pacquaio is easy work, and all that bullshit. You're over explaining and expanding simple arguments just to get to your point which is nothing. What your saying has never been on the context of whether Floyd was talkign shit to Pacquiao. What you're doing is further further justifying your status as a Pacquiao hater and a Floyd lover. So ****ing what? Believe what you want to believe, my simple point which you over complicate is that Floyd talks shit and has tarnished Pacquiao's reputation. So don't go around saying that he hasn't and he doesnt. END OF STORY.

Quite frankly, you haven't owned nobody but yourself. By proving that you are a true FLOMO. What's wrong with the previous contract terms? If you really want the fight to happen, you know that that's the only fair way it's going to happen. You guys only care about what Floyd want and the advantages Floyd get. While real FANS just wants the fight to ****ing happen despite contract agreements and all that shit. Im was a Pac fan, but the bias view towards him and the way that people hype him up sickens me. You pac fans have made me not like the dude what so ever. You guys have created this bad blood in boxing that will never go away. When FLoyd was on top of the world before he retired there was no Manny Pacquiao Floyd talk. After Manny Pacquiao beat Oscar at 147 a weight he hadnt fought at in over a decade, the people said WHERES FLoyd? We want to see Floyd vs Manny. SO what did Floyd do? He did what he always does and thats try to give the fans what they want. He came out of retirement which he said he wouldnt do unless a big fight presented itself, which was Manny. He made the announcement on the night of Manny vs Hatton, Floyd was showing Manny no respect then cuz he wanted to fight him. If Floyd was so scared of Manny he wouldve just stayed retired but he didnt. He fought Marquez to prove that he too can beat an opponent better then Pac can, just like Pac was beating Opponents better then Floyd did. It was all to make a mega fight. Then from the Jump Floyds father told him to have him tested and Roach said thats fine he can be tested anytime. They threw that weight clause in the contract, they asked for 50/50, they asked for glove size, ring size. ANd when Floyd agreed to all the terms, they said the testing was wrong, backed out and fought clottey. Floyd went on to face Shane who is a more dangerous opponent then CLottey. Shane was the WW champ and he dominated him. But all you fans say is "floyd is scared, he only fights small guys"...that shit is dumb! And i want to see the fight aswell. But how can we see it when Arum is playing games? One minute they dont agree, next minute they do. Then he feel floyd may want to wait until Aug before he agrees to see the status of his uncle...well if he felt that way why not wait till Aug to negotiate the fight and have it in dec?? its little games like that, that i cant stand...but pac fans dont see it that way..

I am staying in context of the discussion, You claimed that Mayweather said Pacquiao was on roids or "assumed" he was on it. I'm just backing up the claim that Mayweather never came out and said "He's on roids", He just made one simple justified request. You have no idea what he was "assuming" so please dont act like you do. By rejecting it, Pacquiao made himself look guilty. People can blame Floyd all they want, But when Pacquiao came out and refused the test. People were always going to start talking and that's not Floyd's fault, It's Pacquiao's fault. First off, I never claimed that Mayweather said that Pacquiao was on roids. I only claimed that by doing what he did and by saying the things he said, those who blindly follow him has believed that Pacquiao is on roids. Oh and if this does not imply that he believes that Pacquiao is taking roids then I don't know what will : "A fighter doesn't start off like Manny Pacquiao, just ordinary, and then once he gets over the age of 25 he becomes and extraordinary fighter. It just doesn't work like that in this sport of boxing," Are you really going to play dumb just to prove your point? Are you telling me that his drug testing request is really just a crusade to clean up the sports? Wow. I know you're not this dumb based on how you write. You are right on some point though, there are only two possibilities on why Mayweather would request OST, either he suspects Pacquiao, or he is scared of Pacquiao. I believe you and I won't like the latter answer so I'll just stick to the him being suspicious.

I remember him giving one excuse which he has used before after the Eric Morales bout. He said that the reason Eric Morales defeated him was because they took too much blood from him. And that's that, plus that's another debate as well. What we're talking about is Floyd tarnishing Pacquiao's career which you blindly not see. He has tarnished Pacquiao's career in a way that almost 40% of casual idiot fans 'truly' believe as a FACT that Pacquiao is taking PEDs. They believe it without proof, evidence and all that shit. So tell me, was Pacquiao's career not tarnished? Isn't his legacy being questioned because of the rumors started and spreadt by the Mayweather family? Lol. And you don't have to say something directly to imply it. You're the one who's simple minded because you're only looking at it on that context. He said what he said, he indirectly accused Manny of PEDs and it was clear that Manny's reputation was TARNISHED. Plain and simple. So don't go around saying that he hasn't said shit about Pacquiao. END TOPIC Excuses for not testing: 1) against his religion 2) Its zaps him and makes him weak for days 3)Scared of needles 4)Thats how he lost to Erik 5)It gave him hematoma in his elbow 6)Arum said fighters can get aids and Hep B 7) Floyd hasnt asked anyone else to do it 8)The commission didnt ask for it 9)The take way too much blood You can honestly sit here and say that Floyd knew that if he asked for a blood test all this would follow? If Manny would've said "you can test me anytime, im clean". It wouldve been over with and done right then in there, but when one starts refusing such a little test, thats when your reputation falls in the mud. And since when do you need proof that an athlete is using peds before testing them? There was no proof that Mosley, Vargus, James Toney was cheating but they all tested positive. There was no evidence that McGuire, Marrion Jones was cheating but they tested positive or came clean about cheating. There was no evidence that Margarito had cheated Cotto, but he got banned for cheating cotto. They check fighters hand wraps before fights, why not test them before fights. You dont need proof to test people. My question for Manny is...Why wouldnt he want FLoyd to test? Why doesnt he care rather his opponent is cheating or not? Dont say cuz hes not a pussy. Regardless if you can beat your opponent if hes clean or not its the principle of it. That fighter shouldnt be in the ring, or making millions if he is cheating to get to the top..:owned:

I remember him giving one excuse which he has used before after the Eric Morales bout. He said that the reason Eric Morales defeated him was because they took too much blood from him. And that's that, plus that's another debate as well. What we're talking about is Floyd tarnishing Pacquiao's career which you blindly not see. He has tarnished Pacquiao's career in a way that almost 40% of casual idiot fans 'truly' believe as a FACT that Pacquiao is taking PEDs. They believe it without proof, evidence and all that shit. So tell me, was Pacquiao's career not tarnished? Isn't his legacy being questioned because of the rumors started and spreadt by the Mayweather family? Lol. And you don't have to say something directly to imply it. You're the one who's simple minded because you're only looking at it on that context. He said what he said, he indirectly accused Manny of PEDs and it was clear that Manny's reputation was TARNISHED. Plain and simple. So don't go around saying that he hasn't said shit about Pacquiao. END TOPIC Excuses for not testing: 1) against his religion 2) Its zaps him and makes him weak for days 3)Scared of needles 4)Thats how he lost to Erik 5)It gave him hematoma in his elbow 6)Arum said fighters can get aids and Hep B 7) Floyd hasnt asked anyone else to do it 8)The commission didnt ask for it 9)The take way too much blood You can honestly sit here and say that Floyd knew that if he asked for a blood test all this would follow? If Manny would've said "you can test me anytime, im clean". It wouldve been over with and done right then in there, but when one starts refusing such a little test, thats when your reputation falls in the mud. And since when do you need proof that an athlete is using peds before testing them? There was no proof that Mosley, Vargus, James Toney was cheating but they all tested positive. There was no evidence that McGuire, Marrion Jones was cheating but they tested positive or came clean about cheating. There was no evidence that Margarito had cheated Cotto, but he got banned for cheating cotto. They check fighters hand wraps before fights, why not test them before fights. You dont need proof to test people. My question for Manny is...Why wouldnt he want FLoyd to test? Why doesnt he care rather his opponent is cheating or not? Dont say cuz hes not a pussy. Regardless if you can beat your opponent if hes clean or not its the principle of it. That fighter shouldnt be in the ring, or making millions if he is cheating to get to the top..:owned:

Yes floyd is to blame you dumb****ign troll he has always been the one to blame but ****ing ****** biased morons refuse to accept that . Maybe you should stop posting it over and over again because its all a pile of bullshit and nobody gives a shit about your dumbass opinions you worthless 2010 ****tard . Delete your account and dont come back you moron . Cant stand ****ing noobie june joindates who spam the ****ing forums with their millions of I LOVE FLOYD threads , gtfo of here you ****ing spamming piece of shit .

Why is this being a part of the discussion? I never said that his request was not justified. Only that the mere fact that he requested it means that he was assuming that Pacquiao was on PEDs contrary to what the thread start believes that Mayweather never said shit nor put malice into Pacquiao's image. Please stay in context of the discussion. What you're discussing is another debate for another topic on another thread. I am staying in context of the discussion, You claimed that Mayweather said Pacquiao was on roids or "assumed" he was on it. I'm just backing up the claim that Mayweather never came out and said "He's on roids", He just made one simple justified request. You have no idea what he was "assuming" so please dont act like you do. By rejecting it, Pacquiao made himself look guilty. People can blame Floyd all they want, But when Pacquiao came out and refused the test. People were always going to start talking and that's not Floyd's fault, It's Pacquiao's fault.

STFU...I cut my response short the first time cuz im sick of saying the shit over, and over, and over again. U Pactards are really dumber then cat shit on hot day. Everyone says Floyd is a pussy and he ducks fighters. Here Pac had a opportunity it face Floyd for a 50/50 split back in March. All he had to do was take a small ass blood test and the fight fell through, so Floyd was to blame? Then Pac agrees to Floyds old terms which means he couldve done that bull shit the first time, but instead he waited months to clean his system out from peds. But Floyd is blamed for ducking again?? Tell Manny to fart so your head come out...U need to breath cuz your brain is full of shit..:owned: Quite frankly, you haven't owned nobody but yourself. By proving that you are a true FLOMO. What's wrong with the previous contract terms? If you really want the fight to happen, you know that that's the only fair way it's going to happen. You guys only care about what Floyd want and the advantages Floyd get. While real FANS just wants the fight to ****ing happen despite contract agreements and all that shit.

Typical weak response from the 2010 june floyd fan . What a ****ing pathetic bitch making 4 threads trying his best to still defend his hero floyd , its downright pathetic . STFU...I cut my response short the first time cuz im sick of saying the shit over, and over, and over again. U Pactards are really dumber then cat shit on hot day. Everyone says Floyd is a pussy and he ducks fighters. Here Pac had a opportunity it face Floyd for a 50/50 split back in March. All he had to do was take a small ass blood test and the fight fell through, so Floyd was to blame? Then Pac agrees to Floyds old terms which means he couldve done that bull shit the first time, but instead he waited months to clean his system out from peds. But Floyd is blamed for ducking again?? Tell Manny to fart so your head come out...U need to breath cuz your brain is full of shit..:owned:

I cant counter your arguments? Come on man, u a simple minded person with small brains. Like I said "Floyd Mayweather Jr", never came out and said from his mouth "Manny Pacquiao is on roids"...even u agreed to that. But he's being sued for tarnishing Pacs rep who went on to win FOTD & Congressman so his rep wasnt tarnished at all. Anytime an athlete breaks records they are suspected of dipping in enhancements. Manny Pacquiao isnt the only person that has had enhancements drugs surround his reputation. WHen baseball players break records, track stars break records, bike riders break records...They are often asked to test to prove that the records they are breaking are legit. Manny is seventh time world champ which has never been done, they asked him to test and he refused. He gave a million and one excuses on why he was afraid to test instead of giving blood. They showed manny a rope and he hung himself.. I remember him giving one excuse which he has used before after the Eric Morales bout. He said that the reason Eric Morales defeated him was because they took too much blood from him. And that's that, plus that's another debate as well. What we're talking about is Floyd tarnishing Pacquiao's career which you blindly not see. He has tarnished Pacquiao's career in a way that almost 40% of casual idiot fans 'truly' believe as a FACT that Pacquiao is taking PEDs. They believe it without proof, evidence and all that shit. So tell me, was Pacquiao's career not tarnished? Isn't his legacy being questioned because of the rumors started and spreadt by the Mayweather family? Lol. And you don't have to say something directly to imply it. You're the one who's simple minded because you're only looking at it on that context. He said what he said, he indirectly accused Manny of PEDs and it was clear that Manny's reputation was TARNISHED. Plain and simple. So don't go around saying that he hasn't said shit about Pacquiao. END TOPIC

lol PAC being knocked around by Marquez & Morales, last time PAC really kiss the canvas he was 21 years old err maybe 22 not sure about the timelines ...

You must understand that only a year or two ago, Pacquiao was being knocked around by Erik Morales and Juan Manuel Marquez. Now he is walking through bigger guys and hurting them with one punch, This is not natural. No other fighter that I can remember has ever moved up and became faster, stronger and more durable. Mayweather had a reason to request OSDT. And it's easy for you as a fan to sit back and say Manny isnt doing anything and Floyd should just fight him. You aren't the one who has to get in the ring and risk your health and well-being against a guy who could be taking anything from EPO to steroids to HGH. Why is this being a part of the discussion? I never said that his request was not justified. Only that the mere fact that he requested it means that he was assuming that Pacquiao was on PEDs contrary to what the thread start believes that Mayweather never said shit nor put malice into Pacquiao's image. Please stay in context of the discussion. What you're discussing is another debate for another topic on another thread.

Lol what a reply. You just can't counter my arguments. I am not a pactard by the way because I am also a fan of Mayweather, you can read all my previous post all you want. I am just countering your misinformed thread that May never said any shit to Pac because he has been doing so continuously just recently. LOL I cant counter your arguments? Come on man, u a simple minded person with small brains. Like I said "Floyd Mayweather Jr", never came out and said from his mouth "Manny Pacquiao is on roids"...even u agreed to that. But he's being sued for tarnishing Pacs rep who went on to win FOTD & Congressman so his rep wasnt tarnished at all. Anytime an athlete breaks records they are suspected of dipping in enhancements. Manny Pacquiao isnt the only person that has had enhancements drugs surround his reputation. WHen baseball players break records, track stars break records, bike riders break records...They are often asked to test to prove that the records they are breaking are legit. Manny is seventh time world champ which has never been done, they asked him to test and he refused. He gave a million and one excuses on why he was afraid to test instead of giving blood. They showed manny a rope and he hung himself..

Hey look now a different 2010 floyd fan has come in to defend Floyd ( Because charlez sure as hell wasnt doing well ) .

Hahaha. I'm pretty sure that by requesting OST, he is implying that there is something going amiss and by insisting it, he is implying that Pacquiao must have been doing something he was suspecting him of doing. He also keeps implying that if Pacquiao has got nothing to hide, then why not take the test? Or does this not ring any bell to you still? "At age 25, you do not turn into an ordinary fighter to becoming an extra ordinary fighter" - Mayweather Jr You must understand that only a year or two ago, Pacquiao was being knocked around by Erik Morales and Juan Manuel Marquez. Now he is walking through bigger guys and hurting them with one punch, This is not natural. No other fighter that I can remember has ever moved up and became faster, stronger and more durable. Mayweather had a reason to request OSDT. And it's easy for you as a fan to sit back and say Manny isnt doing anything and Floyd should just fight him. You aren't the one who has to get in the ring and risk your health, well-being and career against a guy who could be taking anything from EPO to steroids to HGH.