So...May refuses/ignores the fight yet; this is Manny's fault?

Lets not make conclusions right now, wait for floyd to open his mouth. Arum is a known liar. I still wonder why floyd didnt talk yet, he couldve sworn or said that the contract was bullshit.What you on about??? Floyd's the biggest bullshitter in the sport!!!

You're spitting some crazy shit Crillz your boy is the one who put all of these obstacles in the way for the fight not to happen. If Pac was easy work then why make up all of this bullshit? he's not my boy, I like him and I know what you meant but I'm giving a neutral view on things, I'm looking at things from the middle and weighing the odds from the very start. Floyd didn't put any obstacles, it became an obstacle when Pacquiao instead of showing the respect he was given of accepting his demands he started looking for ways around it. Floyd been calling for random testing before there was a fight to even talk about, if Pacquiao would have accepted those tests there would be no problem and the fight would get done.. Shane Mosley took the tests and even openly admitted to it being easy, not a problem and it didn't affect him in the fight he just got tight due to Mayweather's shoulder lean tactic and couldn't adjust. you might say to me well Shane Mosley should have been tested anyway because he used steroids before but I can say he was just the only one caught for it, that doesn't mean others wasn't doing it and the fact that he successfully fooled the commission using trickery should have mandated a new testing law anyway, Mayweather is just trying to secure an equal fight, a fight where both athlete's will fight using only what physical abilities they NATURALLY have. Pacquiao got a guarantee of 10 million per every pound overweight Floyd came in and Floyd didn't complain, Floyd even budged from no cut off date to 14 days to make the fight and Manny still said no only to later change up and accept causing even more confusion because they stepped up and accepting knowing Floyd said that deal would already be off the table since he had fought Mosley already, we would have been had this fight had Manny just took the damn tests

If the contract Bob sent over had 0 day cutoff and gave mayweather 52% or better of the purse split it is floyd's fault because floyd has said 0 dyas cutoff and more than 50/50 If the contract sent over had anything other than a 0 day cutoff, then its Bob's fault, because Floyd made it clear after the Mosley fight he wouldn't sign unless it had no cutoff date. If the contract sent over had manny's signature and it included the terms from January then its manny's fault because its been made abundantly clear to him those terms are off the table now! Floyd says a lot of things you cant choose which to believe. He said he was about to retire again that could be true to. All he had to do was sign the contract and give the fans the fight they want. Is 14 days cut off really going to make pac a monster. In my opinon if that is the reason the fight doesn't happen then its petty. Sure i want pac to take full tests so the fight can go ahead but at least he made concessions which showed he tried to make the fight. Floyd has done the complete opposite.

it's a sad thing to live in denial... :nonono:

The whole testing thing was bullshit and is the main reason the fight has taken so long to get made , if the extra testing wasnt asked the ****ing fight would have happened alreayd . So floyd is to blame for the fight taking so long its pretty obvious but you floyd fans will never accept that :/ . he has good reasons to ask for those tests, Shane Mosley had enough money and star power connections to beat the tests and Manny doesn't? Freddie Roach, a trainer known for having roided up fighters, took this little young teenager who was slaughtered twice and turned him into 1 of the greatest fighters ever? what else you want to try to get me to believe that pigs fly? it's no mix up yo it's quite clear even going back to old times as fighters moved up they got more and more tired or lost some things, Pacquiao kept ALL of his features and actually turned up his punch count which is unheard of and mind you this is all in the midst of Mosley's scandal becoming public news.. the commission failed the fighters and the fans when they failed to detect Mosley as dirty in 2003, therefore their credibility is shot, who knows how long Mosley was on that shit now? who knows if Manny is on it right now and just hasn't been caught, Floyd is a fighter with a lot to lose and refuses to take a chance fighting someone who will probably pull a panama Lewis and Aaron Pryor on him and get away with it. put the fighters aside, think about it as fighter A, fighter B and fighter C. fighter A heard about fighter C's illegal use of enhancement drugs and how the commission who is in charge of "protecting" fighters proved they weren't capable of catching that cheater, fighter A then says to fighter B we have to take further testing because I don't trust the commission and based on their mistakes in the past I don't trust them to be the only testers for our fight especially when you went from good fighter to all time great in only 5-6 years and the trainer who got you there is known for having fighters on steroids. pretend YOU were fighter A, if YOU knew based on REAL experience (not the Twinkie eating, behind the computer experience neither but real hands on experience) that your upcoming opponent can very highly realistically be on steroids or on something that'll make the fight easier for him and harder on you, would you just sign away or would you enforce that test? Floyd wants to fight he just wants the testing to get done first but Manny said NO

another poor manny thread.. come on man, mayweather not saying a word doesnt look good on him. i thought it was because of pacquiao the fight didnt get made the first time and i thought pacquiao brought the criticism on himself for refusing the drug tests and walking away from the negotiations but its mayweathers fault this time. he should have spoke up and said something but he is bringing all of the criticism on himself too by not saying anything and knowing that pacquiao is going to move on if he doesnt speak up. all you hear is pacquiao and his people saying they want the fight and mayweather says nothing, thats not a good look for a professional fighter.

The whole testing thing was bullshit and is the main reason the fight has taken so long to get made , if the extra testing wasnt asked the ****ing fight would have happened alreayd . So floyd is to blame for the fight taking so long its pretty obvious but you floyd fans will never accept that :/ .

I agree floyd fans can never accept it when floyd is to blame they always try to deny it its ****ing sad how much they try and try to defend him but they never stop they will always defend Floyd no matter what he does you cant chance their biased minds . Floyd asked for specific demands, Top Ranks and Co met none of them so how is this Floyd pulling some bullshit when it was Top Rank who kept everyone up late yesterday for a deal THEY ALREADY KNEW Floyd wasn't going to take, this whole conference call was a way to move on to a different opponent and create the image of Floyd being the one who didn't come threw when in reality that old man knew already what he was offering and what Floyd wanted was 2 different things, the bullshit games are only coming from 1 direction and it's not from Floyd's

Lets not make conclusions right now, wait for floyd to open his mouth. Arum is a known liar. I still wonder why floyd didnt talk yet, he couldve sworn or said that the contract was bullshit.

I agree floyd fans can never accept it when floyd is to blame they always try to deny it its ****ing sad how much they try and try to defend him but they never stop they will always defend Floyd no matter what he does you cant chance their biased minds .

Hilarious, Mayweather was given a deadline, something you will see in just about any type of contract agreement. But he doesn't answer to it so Manny moves with two possible fights that will be outstanding. Even though I see him winning both, he's staying busy and the fights WILL be exciting no matter what PLUS he will now fight overseas. Now the other problem is that he continues to fight within the stable of toprank...so? It's a common practice in the boxing world, one that May himself is practicing since he joined Goldenboy. And before you say anything ever since he fought Oscar, all his fights have been under that banner AND promoted by them, so cut the crap about Manny fighting TR. While Floyd has been under a rock, Manny has been busy and it seems he will continue to do so. This fight should have happened and it ain't because of Floyd and it's a shame. So just wait for him to come out with a cheap excuse. I personally don't care for it so whatever. Here's to one of the greatest fights in boxing history not happening because Mr. I'm a dog imma gorrilla acted like a child just like always, cheers. are you slow or something man? if I make a deal and present it to you as some do or die, now or no time soon type of shit but the deal is full of shit that I ALREADY SAID I wouldn't accept then that is no offer at all, what they tried to do was switch the focus to Manny's next opponent while hoping to somehow make it seem like in the end "Floyd didn't call in" KNOWING ALREADY that Floyd wouldn't take his ridiculous offer. Floyd asked for 60-40 so where you get 50-50, Floyd says NO cutoff dates so where you come up with a 14 day cut off? Floyd been saying this all along that this is how it would be if he had to face Mosley 1st and now these people want to play stupid and try to get the stupid fans who can't see the truth to eat up all their shit, I can see their plan worked on you..

I can only hope to see the contract and read. However that wont happen, but what could happen is an explanation from the floyd camp, something i've yet to see.

Hilarious, Mayweather was given a deadline, something you will see in just about any type of contract agreement. But he doesn't answer to it so Manny moves with two possible fights that will be outstanding. Even though I see him winning both, he's staying busy and the fights WILL be exciting no matter what PLUS he will now fight overseas. Now the other problem is that he continues to fight within the stable of toprank...so? It's a common practice in the boxing world, one that May himself is practicing since he joined Goldenboy. And before you say anything ever since he fought Oscar, all his fights have been under that banner AND promoted by them, so cut the crap about Manny fighting TR. While Floyd has been under a rock, Manny has been busy and it seems he will continue to do so. This fight should have happened and it ain't because of Floyd and it's a shame. So just wait for him to come out with a cheap excuse. I personally don't care for it so whatever. Here's to one of the greatest fights in boxing history not happening because Mr. I'm a dog imma gorrilla acted like a child just like always, cheers. If the contract Bob sent over had 0 day cutoff and gave mayweather 52% or better of the purse split it is floyd's fault because floyd has said 0 dyas cutoff and more than 50/50 If the contract sent over had anything other than a 0 day cutoff, then its Bob's fault, because Floyd made it clear after the Mosley fight he wouldn't sign unless it had no cutoff date. If the contract sent over had manny's signature and it included the terms from January then its manny's fault because its been made abundantly clear to him those terms are off the table now!

Arums strategy did WORKED.. he put on a show pretending they really want to fight floyd and crucified him of not signing.. thats only my opinion in all these hupla shiet countdown... objectively if there is no negotiations or GBP is just keeping it silent we will never know.. they just let this circus come along.. or floyd really have no plans in fighting PAC in November.. or.. he doesnt really want to fight PAC with 50/50 and 14 days cutoff.. Floyd does not want to fight Pac. Floyd apologist used Arum as an excuse to suit their argument.

floyd pussed out. he's a pussy. what else is there to say?

Arums strategy did WORKED.. he put on a show pretending they really want to fight floyd and crucified him of not signing.. thats only my opinion in all these hupla shiet countdown... objectively if there is no negotiations or GBP is just keeping it silent we will never know.. they just let this circus come along.. or floyd really have no plans in fighting PAC in November.. or.. he doesnt really want to fight PAC with 50/50 and 14 days cutoff..

Man Gtfoh with with that bullsh1t. Nobody with any sense is blaming PAC. The blame is going in bob lying azz. But what's funny is bob cont. To lie and you dudes see that it's true. 1st he said he sent it to GB and they approved it and all Floyd has to do is sign it. And now he saying he didn't speak to gb or Floyd at all. Too many morons around here mate, They think blaming Arum= Blaming Pacquiao because Arum represent Pacquiao... You could see the way they think with their little brains........."Oh no dont blame our Pacquiao" I would never blame Pac in this because i know Arum is to blame, Only a MUG wouldnt see that Arum is the one to blame here....He told this retards he has agreed a deal with GBP and it has been sent to Mayweather and how its all on Mayweather now... NOW he claimed he has never spoken to anyone from GBP or Team Mayweather and these retards are still crying about people blaming Pacquiao..Sad!

LOL, I think Floyd took you for a mug............ How can someone that hasnt said anything take anyone for a MUG? Its you guy who took every Arum's words in and now he has come out and said he was never in negotiation with either GBP or Team Mayweather.........He took you guys for a MUG!

LOL, the point is man....why let your boy get painted as a chicked for no good reason? All Mayweather ever had to do was go on TV and say "that old fool sent me some garbage contract that I didn't agree to" and all your accusations would be validated and Floyd's rep would be cleared. Why not say anything at all and take a public image hit like that? Isn't Floyd surrounded and promoted by smart people that know how this could affect his marketability? Oh wait...................................................................................unless it was true and they don't know what to say!!!!!!!!!!! Actually this doesnt affect his marketability one bit, It even makes him the most bankable boxer in the world, Why because he depends on controversies like this to make a living...Am sure they are laughing even more now.

Arum lied again you can cry and cry till you are blue in the face but he took you for a MUG! LOL, I think Floyd took you for a mug............you guys just can't see the light, blinded by love for Floyd I guess. Well........your hero is gonna get painted as a chicken on every interview, sports show, and radio show that talks about this fight....is that what Floyd wants? Nah, prolly not yet he let it happen to himself wonder why he would ever do that? :smashfrea