Look at these posts below, a little disturbing if you're a real boxing fan.
And, no. Team Mayweather was under no obligation to do or say anything. Know why? Because they have their own near-term plans, and it may or may not include Pacquiao.
When Floyd wants, he will make the fight with Pac. And, at that time, Pacquiao will dance to Floyd's tune.
Just like Arum set a "deadline" with a dog-and-pony-show midnight press conference, and then he said that if Floyd decides to come to the table next week, they will scrap any new ongoing negotiations. What does that tell you?
In fact, Team Mayweather played it perfectly. Who looks like the set of clowns this morning?
It's a shame floyd won't make a deal right now. But he doesn't have to. He only has to make the best deal for himself not for boxing fans. The notion that he owes it to fans to compromise his principals, whether we agree with them or not, to make a fight we want to see does not make sense to me.
If they're so worried about making a fight for November 13th, why do they keep going to Mayweather? Because of Arum's greed.
Get it through your thick skull, neanderthal head that they could've set up Pacquiao with ANYONE ELSE, yet he continues to push for Mayweather.
Arum supposedly didn't talk about negotiations yet we have weeks and weeks of him talking about the fight, basically trying to egg Mayweather on to sign the fight, we don't know the specifics as of late, and the supposed "deadline" wasn't even last night, which brings us back to the point and intention of Arum; having as much build up for this fight should it go through, since he knows this is his big pay day as well as the two main fighters. There was no point of this debacle other than publicity. He could have told Mayweather's advisors that he had until the very last minute to make up his mind, instead of this big build up just to tell everyone "oh I didn't even speak to them personally". Pathetic.
You sit there and point fingers at Mayweather when in reality it's all their faults. The point of this thread was just to hate and express said hatred toward Mayweather and not about the actual issues of signing the fight, which there are countless threads already, with over 10 pages long.
originally floyd fans said it was blood testing that stopped the fight. clearly now its floyds principles, current agenda, and who knows what else.
Manny Pacquiao hides behind his fans, and continues to act like he's @ parity with Mayweather...
Which he's not.
The actual revenue earned by each fighter doesn't support his position for a 50/50 purse split. Also, if he is a "clean" fighter, why the reluctance to submit to the WADA testing procedures absent of the 14 day black out window as it has been originally designed?
The more his fans support his bullshit, the more he makes them look like $2.00 whores defending they pimp.
look, its one of those fans who is more concerned about floyd getting his way than having the actual fight occur. he probably throws parties when they announce buy rates but watches the fights alone on stream.
On PTI the day before they mentioned pac barely. they talked more about floyd being a chicken then they did manny or the fight. If it makes you feel better I'll say it like this: this fight is bigger than boxing itself. Are you ok with that?
As to my thinking, I've likely been watching boxing longer than you! Respectfully, I think I can gauge when someone is bigger than the sport you may not agree but you don't have to.
Ali, leonard, Tyson, ODH and now floyd have all been bigger than the sport in this country. Their contemporaries, frazier, hearns, hagler (my alltime favorite) trinidad and manny IMO are not. If you disagree thats fine.
this is a joke. you can make a case that ali is extremely popular but no one is above the sport. ali, tyson, and now odlh are retired and the sport continues.
floyd doesnt even belong in their category. floyd isnt a household name, and never will be. The fact that you put him there just shows how extremely biased you are towards him. floyd being above the sport? get the **** out of here with that shit.
Look at these posts below, a little disturbing if you're a real boxing fan.
originally floyd fans said it was blood testing that stopped the fight. clearly now its floyds principles, current agenda, and who knows what else.
sent thousands points your way for this spot on thread.
there is a big difference between floyd fans and pac fans. pac fans want to see this fight and they are happy to see pac willing to accept all of floyd demands while the flomos doesn't want floyd to accept the fight if pac doesn't concede to all of floyd demands..
Mayweather compromised the first time with the 14 day cut off offer and Pacquiao refused on principle; Pacquiao didn't try to make the fight happen.
Pacquiao compromised on the 14 day cut off now and Mayweather refused on principle. Mayweather didn't try to make the fight happen.
1-1
To anyone who can see this and still wants to argue for one and not the other, it pretty much a "pot calling the kettle black" situation. one cannot be acceptable without the other being as well, unfortunately more often then not pactards and flomos hold the other to a different standard, which is total bullshit in my honest opinion.
Mayweather's a control freak
Knew he wouldnt agree to the fight, he has to be in charge of every little detail and thing that he's involved with, Pacquiao i feel would have destroyed him though and he will now probably fight a bum at a lighter weight or someone washed up like he did with Mosley, Marquez. Pacquiao vs Bradley or Alexander would be interesting
They better do this shit quick. It's less than 4 months now.
Every passing day makes it worse.
Unless they aren't going to do it until next year.
that's what I want to believe, it is either they will be fighting November or its already set for next year, I dont have a problem with either scenarios, but some type of acknowledgment must be made from both sides...
flomos don't really want the fight. that's why they give floyd every and any reason to duck the fight. these flomo apologists always got a reason why the fight can't happen.
They better do this shit quick. It's less than 4 months now.
Every passing day makes it worse.
Unless they aren't going to do it until next year.
Right, people fail to realize that this is not being shown on Pac tv or Mayweather movie channel, HBO is going to air it, put up the dough for the 24-7, and help promote this thing. MGM is going to hype the crap out of it and this entire thing is going to take months to properly promote and the longer they wait, the worse the PPV will do.
Why do people even think that the broadcasters have schedules and set matches up? They need to get something done in agreement, it's not "I'll fight when I'm good and ready"
floyd fans was so happy that the fight never made because they know that if people will match pac and floyd in a fantasy fight floyd will win. LOL.....
Calm down guys!
Dunn is a cool dude you can talk sense in him. Shogunn as well has good inputs.
You guys should call it flaps and don't ever get to the Floyd stan level, which I know you both are far from.
I agree. The fact that dunn took time multiple of times to clear up his quotes, rather than just spewing the same nonsense over and over again and to resort to name calling, shows he is not a stan.
again, thats bullshit. they reason why mention floyd at all and call him things such as coward, pussy, etc, is because he refuses to fight manny.. And YES, they mention MANNY PACQUAIO when discussing floyd. They're intertwined.
so does that also makes manny bigger than the sport since he's mentioned. Isnt that an illogical and ****ed up way of thinking? im wasting my time arguing with the guy that thinks floyd is bigger than teh sport of boxing simply because ESPN calls him a coward.
On PTI the day before they mentioned pac barely. they talked more about floyd being a chicken then they did manny or the fight. If it makes you feel better I'll say it like this: this fight is bigger than boxing itself. Are you ok with that?
As to my thinking, I've likely been watching boxing longer than you! Respectfully, I think I can gauge when someone is bigger than the sport you may not agree but you don't have to.
Ali, leonard, Tyson, ODH and now floyd have all been bigger than the sport in this country. Their contemporaries, frazier, hearns, hagler (my alltime favorite) trinidad and manny IMO are not. If you disagree thats fine.
That is so true. They were pressing down on Pac to accept all of Floyd's terms, yet Floyd gets a pass on... everything. Basically everything Floyd says they will vouch for and defend. If Floyd said tomorrow that he wanted a USADA rep in Manny's camp, by his side up until the fight to make sure he doesn't dope, they'd probably welcome that. He could say anything and they'd nuthug
It's a bittersweet thing for me. On one hand I was dying for this fight to happen. On the other, the sickening discussions about PEDs, PPVs perpetrated by Floyd fans are finally over. At least, that's what should be expected. Any normal person gotta be sick pretending Pac is using peds when dealing with these fanatical Floyd fans.
Now I'd expect them to continue with OSDT crap when their idol faces whoever. He won't get away with 18 days cut-off this time. I have said my piece on this. NO ONE, including Floyd, should ever go through this process of extracting a tube of blood from boxers. It's inhumane and cruel. There's got to be a better way. Floyd fanatics' jealousy and hatred got the better of them. Floyd is not a robot or an animal. Of course, it has a deleterious effect especially during the training session.
But Floyd and his fans want it. So be it.
I posted your point and my response. You are taking what I wrote so literally that its impossible for you to discuss rationally. If you go back, Afighter4U responded to the same post. he took the time to read it all and didn't parse it.
The point is rather than discuss boxing, ESPN's mainstream talk shows discuss floyd and only floyd. he's a coward, he is scared. They talk about floyd not about boxing. They seem to care more about him than the sport, hence that portion of my post!
Ali and Tyson are bigger than the sport! In Manilla Manny is bigger than boxing. wouldn't you agree with that?
Dude manny absolutely desrved fotd and FOTY. but if he isn't generating as many dollars as another guy he is most likely subject to their terms.
again, thats bullshit. they reason why mention floyd at all and call him things such as coward, pussy, etc, is because he refuses to fight manny.. And YES, they mention MANNY PACQUAIO when discussing floyd. They're intertwined.
so does that also makes manny bigger than the sport since he's mentioned. Isnt that an illogical and ****ed up way of thinking? im wasting my time arguing with the guy that thinks floyd is bigger than teh sport of boxing simply because ESPN calls him a coward.
I know I want the fight. I've been wanting it for a while now, despite my criticism of Manny and how he handled all of the testing stuff. However, I got some good information about the fight. This whole deadline thing, was not really a deadline. It was merely a media stint and alot of people bought it. All is not lost.
I am a believer bro, I will just wait patiently for the fight to happen...
and that means he's bigger than the sport of boxing? is that how you gage it? haha. So when cotto and manny fought and they were mentioned on PTI, around the horn, did that make both of them bigger than the sport of boxing too? or are you selective about your illustrious process. Ali and tyson still get mentioned all over ESPN without a flick of floyd. yet floyd himself is bigger than the sport?
your appointed boxer thats bigger than the sport of itself didnt even win FOTD. How about he starts there first.
youre done, dunn. wasting everyone's time. This thread was to prove fans like you exist.
I posted your point and my response. You are taking what I wrote so literally that its impossible for you to discuss rationally. If you go back, Afighter4U responded to the same post. he took the time to read it all and didn't parse it.
The point is rather than discuss boxing, ESPN's mainstream talk shows discuss floyd and only floyd. he's a coward, he is scared. They talk about floyd not about boxing. They seem to care more about him than the sport, hence that portion of my post!
Ali and Tyson are bigger than the sport! In Manilla Manny is bigger than boxing. wouldn't you agree with that?
Dude manny absolutely desrved fotd and FOTY. but if he isn't generating as many dollars as another guy he is most likely subject to their terms.
PTI and around the horn never discuss boxing except to discuss floyd Thats why I said that. Again, is the whole post true or false?
and that means he's bigger than the sport of boxing? is that how you gage it? haha. So when cotto and manny fought and they were mentioned on PTI, around the horn, did that make both of them bigger than the sport of boxing too? or are you selective about your illustrious process. Ali and tyson still get mentioned all over ESPN without a flick of floyd. yet floyd himself is bigger than the sport?
your appointed boxer thats bigger than the sport of itself didnt even win FOTD. How about he starts there first.
youre done, dunn. wasting everyone's time. This thread was to prove fans like you exist.