Arum just told you guys he's not trying to put Pac against the best fighters because they don't sell and he's not going to give them a free ride.
He's willing to put Pac in a ring against a guy who last sold 15K PPV's in his last fight.
Why always blame PAC?
Arum gives him options of who to fight.
Pac will choose..
I don't think PAC even knows who Bradley, Williams is IMO...
And even if Pac said that "I will duck WILLIAMS" I wouldnt lose an ounce of respect for him.. c'mon man its unrealistic and not practical to fight with that kind of disadvantage...
I dont blame Arum for this, All promoters in his shoes would do the same...Either other fighters get themselves into a mandatory position or they would never get a chance at those guys, No one in boxing gives you a free pass.......Pavlik had to wait and do things the hard way before he got his chance at Taylor so i dont expect anyone to get a chance like that easily.
Stop defending Pac and his team.
Manny should be fighting the best instead of fighting in house TR fighters.
Nobody wants to see him fight Cotto and Margacheato when Manny has better options available right now. :nonono:
But when has Pacquiao ever fought "the best"? Let's take a look at his best wins and see if he ever did...............
Morales - Coming off a lopsided loss to Raheem
Cotto - Coming off a brutal KO loss to Margarito
Hatton - Coming off a brutal beating from Floyd
De La Hoya - Fought an entire division below his natural weight
David Diaz - NOBODY considered him #1 at Lightweight
This is what's makes me laugh when people say Pacquiao fights the best and Floyd picks his opponents. Floyd always fought people when they were champions and in their prime. Whenever he moved up he always fought the lineal WBC champions and beat them all.
Genaro Hernandez
Jose Luis Castillo
Arturo Gatti
Carlos Baldomir
Oscar De La Hoya
All of them were coming off impressive wins and fighting at their best weight class. Pacquiao fights people coming off losses and makes them lose weight to fight him. People lie, But the facts are there for everyone to see.
IDGAS about whom Manny fights outside TR.
WOW you can judge a man's actions right now by just checking what he said?
What I'm sayin' is if you call Arum a liar then why do you believe in what he says, like your thread title?
Stop defending Pac and his team.
Manny should be fighting the best instead of fighting in house TR fighters.
Nobody wants to see him fight Cotto and Margacheato when Manny has better options available right now. :nonono:
Who is Floyd fighting next?
Not sure, but last time I checked. Floyd fought a guy Bob Arum claimed he was a harder fight then Pac that even Roached said was too good for Pac even at 140 lol........Pac even backed Bobs and Roaches opinion by saying he thought Floyd would lose to the fighter Pac himself ducked lol.......... So Pac and the gang went with a in-house guy(Clottey) lol............
He's a liar, but you can judge the man by his actions.
When was the last time Manny fought someone who is not signed to TR?
Yes:biggthump And who is Arum planning on matching Pac with next lol...I dont know but, word on the street its a Top Rank fighter lol........
AFAIK you're one of us who said Arum's a big fat liar.
Then why would you believe this shit he just said?
So we pick whatever he's saying that's not a lie?
I thought he was a liar?
LOL at this thread and people calling Arum a liar but making threads about what he says just to bash Pac!
He's a liar, but you can judge the man by his actions.
When was the last time Manny fought someone who is not signed to TR?
Notice he didnt give any excuses to NOT fight floyd. It looks like he's spent more time in the past year trying to make this fight happen than anyone else, including GBP, mayweathers, Haymon, etc.
He actually peddled off excuses for floyd to not fight Manny.
LOL..........You just contridicted your self dumbass. Arum is just trying to put the blame on Floyd. Just like Pac tried to pathetically try to make Floyd duck him with the 10 million dollar over limit penalty. Why would Manny add the 10 million penalty during the middle of the OST deal when he wasn't going to agree on testing? (Think about it. Floyd asking Pac if he is going to agree on testing. Pac then says " well will you agree on a 10 million dollar penalty". Floyd say's "sure". Manny then say's well am still not agreeing to testing.) Doesn't that sound childish? Manny didn't want to face OST and tried to make Floyd run, but it didn't work. Manny was the one who walked. Now Arum is pulling his BS with a so called contract which Manny hasn't even signed and is now making up excuses for Floyd walking when we don't even know what the contract is.
"First I have to get Manny's views," Arum said. "I have to discuss with Manny who he prefers and then get everything put together. Whoever he selects is who we will go after."
What about Sergio or someone else?
Bullshit. He can fight Williams, Martinez, Bradley, etc. Manny is just picking the weakest guy like he has been doing for years.
I know ,thats why I said he should fiight bradley...nobody wants to see pac fight cotto, or margs
Most of the boxing public don't want to see margarito matchup or a cotto rematch bradley is the only viable option in my eyes.
Bullshit. He can fight Williams, Martinez, Bradley, etc. Manny is just picking the weakest guy like he has been doing for years.
Cmon man!!
Fukk outta here.
What "work" did Joshua Clottey put in? Not to mention Pac made 15-20 Mill with him.
So its no excuse for no Bradley, Martinez or Williams fight.
This^^^^^^^^^^^^
Arum just told you guys he's not trying to put Pac against the best fighters because they don't sell and he's not going to give them a free ride.
He's willing to put Pac in a ring against a guy who last sold 15K PPV's in his last fight.
Now Floyd apologist believed him. WTF?
So If Floyd said this you'd still be down??
I have already answered this several times, on your show in the past and on prettyboy32's show earlier today.
I kinda concur with Arum...
He puts in alot of work with his stable...he gets them big fights, he bank rolls and makes big gambles, some that pay off and some that don't
None of these other promoters turn these guys into stars...when you look back...most of the big names, big attractions have come from TR...DLH, Mayweather and all them were built up from Arum...he's tired of people piggy backing off his work just to steal a pay day...
I think Arum would be less reluctant to put top dudes with his most cherished possession if they too were putting in work and making these guys house hold names. It was actually quite refreshing for him to say...telling these cats that if they want Manny, they need to put in work
Floyd and DLH became more popular and made more money when they left Arum. Floyd became a superstar when he left Arum.
How can you promote fighters when other promoters don't want your own fighters fighting their best fighters? Guys like EM, MAB, and JMM gave Pacquiao a chance when he wasn't a superstar to make a them for himself.
Williams would be a bigger star if guys at 147 would be willing to fight him. Can't blame a guy when other fighters don't want to fight him.
I kinda concur with Arum...
He puts in alot of work with his stable...he gets them big fights, he bank rolls and makes big gambles, some that pay off and some that don't
None of these other promoters turn these guys into stars...when you look back...most of the big names, big attractions have come from TR...DLH, Mayweather and all them were built up from Arum...he's tired of people piggy backing off his work just to steal a pay day...
I think Arum would be less reluctant to put top dudes with his most cherished possession if they too were putting in work and making these guys house hold names. It was actually quite refreshing for him to say...telling these cats that if they want Manny, they need to put in work
Cmon man!!
Fukk outta here.
What "work" did Joshua Clottey put in? Not to mention Pac made 15-20 Mill with him.
So its no excuse for no Bradley, Martinez or Williams fight.
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