I was right: Bob never talked to ANYONE in Floyds camp.

its a godamn shame the "best" boxing news site cant get a comment from a damn "cracked" out trainer. the guy arum is pinning the blame on for the fight not happening now. another epic fail by boxingscene. we see roger mayweather talking to any and everybody with a mic. but u all cant seem to find him?

Who's camp is Haymon in then an why was he talking to Arum in the first place? "I never talked to Al Haymon" ----Bob Arum

Who's camp is Haymon in then an why was he talking to Arum in the first place? ^^^^^^ This.....

I been saying that shit since the proposal was announced. Who's camp is Haymon in then an why was he talking to Arum in the first place?

Nobodies saying anything like that, but Bob Arum mislead the public, lied and stretched the truth as much as he can to make things seem what they weren't. Truth is, putting aside everything about who talked to who, if Rogers trial is in August then nobody can expect him to sign anything in July, nobody expects Manny to fight with a new trainer... at this level, you feel more confortable with the trainer you've been with for years. I am not pointing the finger at anyone, cause thats unfair for anyone to do, at the end of the day all are to blame, Roger for not staying out of trouble, Arum for being a dick, Floyd for proposing drug testing (even though I think its not a bad idea at all) and Manny for rejecting it in the first place for such stupid reasons. Its absolutely ****ing stupid to point the finger at one person and biased to do it, at the end of the day all are to blame... but the strange thing is I can understand where each of them are coming from, but with everything clashing together its just made things a complete mess. One thing that should be taken from this though is that people should always wait for another person to say something as well when Arum says something, cause people run with what he says too much when its clear that he lies when it suits him all the time, seriously... Arum is a corrupt guy and people should always take what he says with a grain of salt, kinda like Floyd cause he talks shit too at times. I know I posted in this thread to say my piece and all, but you didn't have to make another thread saying the same shit other people have been saying, so this thread should be closed like every other one. I stopped right there.

in any case.. arum did/did not talked to any floyd's side... WTF ?! does any of team mayweather even reading shit on the internet? like they are being called upon by team pacquiao and arum? they can't even provide a little puppy bark to say '**** you arum, go to hell' or something like that. i thought i would side with mayweather/flomos having pac/arum's excuses as evidence of cowardness... but now they are calling the duck himself out... with the addition of the mayweathers saying pac is a one-dimensional fighter and easy work... now what? no replies?! SHIT! FLOYD'S AN OFFICIAL DUCKER OF ALL TIME! was almost a flomo... fcuk it

Floyd doesnt have any TV, Internet or News. That is why he dont know about the FIGHT ROFL..... If he is really not scared, he should step up and fight. Okay and just for arguments sake, if Freddie was on trial in August and might be doing some time would you suddenly expect him to sign the contract in July full knowing that his trainer who hes been with for years might be doing some time and be unable to train him? Don't give me this well hes not a crackhead shit because thats stupid... people need to step make and stop being so biased, just take a look at the whole ****ing picture, both are to blame.

A lotta troll threads about all these shit. I for one would still like to hear something from The Mayweather side, or even GBP, anything, be it a dumb reason. Coz it's really hard to believe the biggest scumbag that is Arum. But who will we listen to? I just find it amusing how people can still defend despite not knowing any facts about the negos, and the only people who prolly knew aside from GBP, Floyd and Arum is Ross Greenburg and Al Haymon. Floyd stans jump into conclusions that all the while Arum wasn't talking to Floyd, dang what do they expect? That's why they got the top honcho of HBO to mediate and talk to Haymon for Floyd. So that outcry of Floyd stans is squashed! On the other side of the fence, unreasonable pacfans also jump to conclusions because Floyd and GBP, knowing how loudmouth they can be, could've said something at least to call out Arum's BS if it was indeed a lie. And these fans don't know what the contract was so they also make a fool outta themselves and spew out BS they're not even sure of instead of just wait for the actual proposal. But out of the 2 fanbase sans mediocrity, the pacfans have more reasoning provided they state that if Arum indeed was lying about this whole thing, why can't GBP and Floyd call it out and say it was a lie? Now fans don't know who to listen for the truth. So just bask in the ambience like I do and wait for anything that pops out. :boxing: Just like I have said, both sides are too blame... but both sides of biased fans are just running with every little thing to blame it on the other guy its ****ing stupid... they need to just for once admit that both sides are as bad as each other and both sides deserve equal blame... but they wont admit that.

for a fight the world anticipates, are you telling me floyd didnt know about this? Nobodies saying anything like that, but Bob Arum mislead the public, lied and stretched the truth as much as he can to make things seem what they weren't. Truth is, putting aside everything about who talked to who, if Rogers trial is in August then nobody can expect him to sign anything in July, nobody expects Manny to fight with a new trainer... at this level, you feel more confortable with the trainer you've been with for years. I am not pointing the finger at anyone, cause thats unfair for anyone to do, at the end of the day all are to blame, Roger for not staying out of trouble, Arum for being a dick, Floyd for proposing drug testing (even though I think its not a bad idea at all) and Manny for rejecting it in the first place for such stupid reasons. Its absolutely ****ing stupid to point the finger at one person and biased to do it, at the end of the day all are to blame... but the strange thing is I can understand where each of them are coming from, but with everything clashing together its just made things a complete mess. One thing that should be taken from this though is that people should always wait for another person to say something as well when Arum says something, cause people run with what he says too much when its clear that he lies when it suits him all the time, seriously... Arum is a corrupt guy and people should always take what he says with a grain of salt, kinda like Floyd cause he talks shit too at times. I been saying that shit since the proposal was announced. I know I posted in this thread to say my piece and all, but you didn't have to make another thread saying the same shit other people have been saying, so this thread should be closed like every other one.

Floyd doesnt have any TV, Internet or News. That is why he dont know about the FIGHT ROFL..... If he is really not scared, he should step up and fight.

do you want a medal? what a shit thread. Nah, its a great thread! For week people were telling morons on here not to take Arum's words for it but Nah.."Its Mayweather sign the proposal" Now its been proven that Arum too you guys for a MUG, Now you want to call this a shit thread? LOL

A lotta troll threads about all these shit. I for one would still like to hear something from The Mayweather side, or even GBP, anything, be it a dumb reason. Coz it's really hard to believe the biggest scumbag that is Arum. But who will we listen to? I just find it amusing how people can still defend despite not knowing any facts about the negos, and the only people who prolly knew aside from GBP, Floyd and Arum is Ross Greenburg and Al Haymon. Floyd stans jump into conclusions that all the while Arum wasn't talking to Floyd, dang what do they expect? That's why they got the top honcho of HBO to mediate and talk to Haymon for Floyd. So that outcry of Floyd stans is squashed! On the other side of the fence, unreasonable pacfans also jump to conclusions because Floyd and GBP, knowing how loudmouth they can be, could've said something at least to call out Arum's BS if it was indeed a lie. And these fans don't know what the contract was so they also make a fool outta themselves and spew out BS they're not even sure of instead of just wait for the actual proposal. But out of the 2 fanbase sans mediocrity, the pacfans have more reasoning provided they state that if Arum indeed was lying about this whole thing, why can't GBP and Floyd call it out and say it was a lie? Now fans don't know who to listen for the truth. So just bask in the ambience like I do and wait for anything that pops out. :boxing: I read the espn article by Dan rafael. As much as everyone knows I hate Bob it was good to see the blame floyd/ hes a bad guy crap from January crap not materialize. Bob obviously knows the fight will happen. I was disappointed when Bob said he would discuss with manny to see who "Manny chooses to fight next". Bob is gonna make the bigger fight and I can't see how anyone wants to see cotto marg 2 right now. So it seems its pac marg but why frame it as manny is choosing margarito.

When Marquez called him out he responded this time the world is calling him out we heard nothing. Silence is golden according to Floyd.

Wow then Floyd doesn't need to retire and he can quit avoiding phone calls. Better tell espn because, silly them, they been reporting the opposite.

what a stupid thread, maybe thats because floyds camp refused? anyway, he was in contact via the hbo president with that al haymen guy. so floyd was aware of everything, dont make excuses for his ducking

When do you see billionaires trying to negotiate but the other party doesnt answer phones, emails or other ways of contact? Fcuk man, the whole world knows it that arum are trying to negotiate. He even used a Mediator because floyd won't say anything. If he really wants this fight he will atleast get someone on his team to talk to arum. I'm saying this because this is how you look at things, like arum didnt try anything to get this fight done. I'm pretty sure Al got the message to team mayweather. this is what im trying to point out in my earlier post. one is willing the other didn't even entertain to negotiate. Everybody is pointing the finger to Arum who at least used a mediator in the person of Greenburg(who i think qualified enough to do such task since he is one of the bankrollers in this event, anybody here who think he is not qualified please raise your hand lol) do you really think Floyd will see eye to eye w/ Bob Arum i highly doubt that thus the need for mediator.

I been saying that shit since the proposal was announced. do you want a medal? what a shit thread.

he exhausted available avenues huh? not sure how you can do that when you are only talking to ross greenberg. he didnt speak with anyone from floyds camp, nor anyone from golden boy. doesnt sound like he tried, either buy im lost on how he "exhaust" available avenues, as you put it. please enlighten me oh here we go again.. everybody knows what happened to the first time they negotiated, everybody knows the beef between GBP's oscar and arum, especially everybody also knows the beef between arum and floyd, . everybody in boxing and also other multitude of casual fans knows what the magnitude of this fight is, particularly the money involved/ projected to be made for all people involved. anyone in boxing cannot deny the fact that ross greenburg and his HBO is very much interested in the fight and very much willing to bankroll it as much as they did with the other fights of floyd. and who doesnt know in boxing what al haymon's role in team mayweather is. with that bob not only showed interest, he made concessions and made the move to at least approached and talked to the person he thought have an access to the other team. previous avenues were proven to be dead ends. despite the enormity and implication of the fight the other team displayed indifference so is that not clear enough for you? or do you really think what i think you are thinking that there is still an avenue that bob can try like thru god. you want bob to offer sacrifices to boxing deities? like goats or turledoves?

No Ceiling and Benavidez Mafia share the same brain which is less than half as intellegent as a retarded chimpanzee. You guys have been so called :owned: all over your own thread its sad.

It goes both ways though Mayweathers camp never contacted them either. Both sides are COMPLETELY at fault here. This is just another example of shitty boxing buisiness. FLOYD NEGOTIATION WAS EXACTLY AFTER THE SHANE FIGHT, LARRY MERCHANT ASKED, AND THE WHOLE WORLD HEARD THAT. IT made news around teh world. There was nothing to negotiate, floyd stated if manny wants the fight he has to agree 2 random drug testing. So if he (ARUM) hasnt had contact with anyone from team mayweather, then why o why can he have an ultimatum?? I can see it now, I (arum) WILL produce a cut off date for floyd even though I havent even spoken to his team once..... WAS THE CONTRACT EVEN SENT TO FLOYD?? Lord knows if the contract was never sent, TEAM PACQUIAO AND ARUM WILL BE CRUCIFIED!!! REMEMBER MANNY SUPPOSEDLY CONCEEDED TO RANDOM DRUG TESTING TOO. DID FLOYD HAVE A CUT OFF TIME FRAME? DONT GIVE ME PROMOTIONAL BULLSHIT THIS FIGHT HAS BEEN ON EVERY BOXING FANS LIPS, AS WELL AS OTHER PROFESSIONAL BOXERS. THIS VERY DAMN FORUM IS PACKED WITH MAY VS PAC THREADS, YOU CANT GOOGLE EITHERS NAME WITHOUT SEEING AN ARTICLE RELATING TO A POTENTIAL FIGHT. THIS FIGHT SELLS ITSELF!! ITS SO BIG MMA MANAGERS ARE TALKING ABOUT IT AS WELL AS MMA FIGHTERS AND TRAINERS!! THE EVERY FIRST THING ASKED OF PACQUIAO AFTER HE BEAT CLOTTEY WAS "WOULD THERE BE A SHOWDOWN WITH MAYWEATHER." THATS 700K RIGHT THERE THE SAME WITH FLOYD AS WELL AFTER THE SHANE FIGHT. Thats 1.4 million viewers right there. Simply with that is enough to nearly equal floyd and delahoya!